Thursday, July 17, 2014

Dorm POV Second impact shows secret NYPD Helicopter


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Dorm POV Second impact shows NYPD Helicopter very close during the second impact which is not seen on any impact videos released by NIST. The helicopter is not a secret however the video and photos which must have been gathered by NYPD officers are still missing! A FOIA request is necessary to find out the truth.  A plane may or may NOT be in the video or maybe a drone.


NIST Releasehttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLUzJmVDVMckdBZ0U

 





Janice Gordon They abound, James. I've just been called a 'stupid shill' on Dan Plesse's OP about secret NYPD helecopters being spotted circling the towers just before the second impact.
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  • AAron Hinman Dan Plesse is a no-planer. Nuff sed.
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  • Brent Toney Hahahaha
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  • Melissa Doyle No matter what I will never forget my brother FDNY FF MICHAEL KIEFER LADDER 132.. my heart breaks every time someone posts a picture like this.. I was working by JFK at the time and saw the second tower fall not realizing that he was in that building being his ladder comp was based in Brooklyn.. and no matter who is responsible the fact is over 3,000 people lost their lives and those souls should be honored not trashed by a bullshit pissing match about a helicopter in the sky that day almost 13 years ago..
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  • Brent Toney Truth.
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  • Janice Gordon Very sorry for the loss of your brother, Melissa.
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  • Dan Plesse Melissa Doyle Its not about the helicopter at all, its about what the helicopter filmed, recorded and witnessed. People like Janice, AAron and Alistair don't want people to ask questions which might lead to something other then what you have been taught. Those are the facts.

    3,000 people lost their lives and 1,500 are still missing and trashed by a bullshit misdirection junk as recorded above. Honoring themes and memes produced by the criminals is the opposite of honoring.

    The goal is prove this plane with black spot was the object filmed by that NYPD helicopter.
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The initial 2005 NIST found LITTLE damage

Bob Byron 'I don't know what you talking about ..'

oh you most certainly do Daniel.......the initial 2005 NIST found LITTLE damage caused by EACH impact into EACH tower......the Structural Response section of NCSTR 1-3 shows 14.5% localized ASYMMETRICAL damage occurring to each...

33 outer columns were damaged from the impacts. You can count the columns yourself in any image or video that shows the holes. That's 33 out of 236 outer columns which comes out to 14%. That leaves 86% of the outer columns intact and undamaged.

NIST estimates that 6-8 core columns were damaged. That's 6-8 out of 47. We'll go with 7 since it's in the middle scenario and the SECOND impact all but missed them.... 7 out of 47 comes out to 15% of the core columns were damaged leaving 85% of the core columns intact and undamaged.

Putting those two percentages together, you get 14.5% of the structure in each tower was damaged leaving 85.5% of the structure undamaged. That is minimal damage.

the 2005 NIST also found the FIRES PRESENT did NOT allow the steel to FAIL to ALLOW collapse to proceed... 

"No conclusive evidence was found to indicate that pre-collapse fires were sever enough to have a significant effect on the microstructure that would have resulted in weakening of the steel structure." NIST NCSTAR 1-3C, p. 235

no evidence the type of joining methods, materials, or welding procedures used was improper NIST 1-3 p.99

recovered bolts were stronger than typical. NIST 1-2 p.133

"no core column examined showed temp. above 250C" NIST 1-3 6.6.2

NCSTAR1-3 7.7.2 "because no steel was recovered from WTC7,it is not possable to make any statements about it's quality" 

if YOU would like to show anything different....by all means..go for it.....cause I fucking hate, FAKE 'truthers'........

prove to me you are legit.......
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NIST's Penis Theory and hot pink fires didn't cause building 7 to fall

 Dr. William Pepper, attorney at law pursuing nist via oig fraudulent wtc 7 report
Todd Zinser, Office of Inspector General, Department of Commerce: Investigate why NIST  
      created a fraudulent report on WTC7

NIST's Penis Theory and hot pink fires didn't cause a building to fall or the dirt piles witnessed by people. Only a shill would believe such stupidly.

"NIST used numerous unscientific methods and fraudulent inputs to get the key girder that allegedly initiated the total collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 to fail in its computer simulation."

From: michael.newman@nist.gov

CC: wtc@nist.gov
Subject: RE: WTC7 Report Discrepancies
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:55:28 +0000

Dear Mr. Cole,

WTC 7 did not show any web crippling failures. Therefore, the web crippling plates did not need to be included in the models/analyses.

http://911blogger.com/news/2013-11-06/nist-replies-stiffeners-inquiry

At minimum it is a good thing to have the admission on record that the plates where omitted.

9/11 Smoking Guns 8:41 Leslie E. Robertson Why Is there a pile of dirt in the building 7?


The referendum would require the Buildings Department to investigate the collapse
http://nypost.com/2014/07/09/911-conspiracy-group-pushes-vote-for-investigation/

  • Ron Morales And if it passed, the Buildings Department would come to the exact same conclusion, and then truthers would reject it, claiming that it wasn't an "independent investigation" because the Building Department is part of the "gubmint." So in the end this w...See More
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  • Dan Plesse Well Buildings Department would never use growing steel because of a small fire theory caused a domino effect, its just too stupid.

    Not only that but no one has seen a single item from inside WTC 7. How did all that dirt get inside the building.     ...See More
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  • Ron Morales No one's advocating a "small fire theory." That's just the dishonest misrepresentation of truthers who can't logically address the actual explanation. And what is "growing steel"?
    July 14 at 7:18pm · Like · 2
  • Dan Plesse Ron Morales Did you just forget to address the issues of dirt piles witnessed by people and addressed Leslie E. Robertson?

    The building was filmed and only had a small row of HTA arson fires.     ...See More
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    Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and Fire Commissioner Thomas Von Essen inside building 7

    WTC Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and Fire Commissioner Thomas Von Essen inside buildin... See More
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  • Dan Plesse 11 Sept 2001 Aircraft Crash at NRO Headquarters

    Engine Pre-positioned in NRO Compound     ...See More
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  • Dan Plesse Ron Morales And what is "growing steel"? Its part of the NIST penis theory of WTC 7. The Steel increased in size do to warmth or Hot pink fires!
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  • Ron Morales Ah. It's just a "theory" that steel expands with heat. An amateur like you must know more about steel than the professional metallurgists who study the stuff.
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  • Dan Plesse NIST's Penis Theory and hot pink fires didn't cause a building to fall or the dirt piles witnessed by people. Only a shill would believe such stupidly.

    "NIST used numerous unscientific methods and fraudulent inputs to get the key girder that allegedly initiated the total collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 to fail in its computer simulation."

    From: michael.newman@nist.gov

    CC: wtc@nist.gov
    Subject: RE: WTC7 Report Discrepancies
    Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:55:28 +0000

    Dear Mr. Cole,

    WTC 7 did not show any web crippling failures. Therefore, the web crippling plates did not need to be included in the models/analyses.

    http://911blogger.com/.../nist-replies-stiffeners-inquiry

    At minimum it is a good thing to have the admission on record that the plates where omitted.

    NIST Replies to WTC7 Stiffeners Inquiry | 911Blogger.com
    911blogger.com
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