You can't have both equal parts faith in the system and total disregard for humanity.
The blind dupes have total blind faith in goodness of humankind and therefore no need to investigate mankind because mankind is good or alternatively we're really not that all bad, are we?. 9/11 is an examination of mankind in practice. Some people call this the "fabric of society" or a sociological issue. I believe they are correct.
So far we have a blizzard of videos dealing with justification of 9/11. "hurt locker", "zero dark thirty" and "american sniper" Those are the best threel mind altering, elite protecting videos so far. I wonder what new videos the CIA will pump out next?
We also had less successful videos like "Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close (2011)" its interesting which plane they think what the first plane most have looked like i.e it was not an enormous 767.
The key is to nullify questions before they start. How can entity create a blindspot in society? Make the sin of answer larger then the benefit to society, NO. The answer is create what the
I just realized that none of the photos from Behind the Scenes are from before 9:03
possible answer will be then run parallel paradigms which lead to null actions. Design a paradigm or paradigms to nullify actions because who cares about if the question is known, its the actions which matter most. Zero FOIL will be filed from the good people or the bad people. The outcome is already known, already known, already known...
Other reporters were saying it was a small propeller plane. Of course now we know what it was, don't we danp5648? If not, where are all the people who were on the other jumbo jet? Plus we do have film of the first attack.
Where are all the people who were on the other jumbo jet? Is the wrong question. The right question is the one question everyone missed and has the 99.999% 9/11 Truthers not researching or caring and completely fooled into NOT researching into because everyone is inside the "Truth" movement is either inside CAMP A (flights A,B,C,D) or CAMP B (no plane) paradigm and you have wonder why Dick Oliver was having so much trouble with this issue. All photos should HAVE been released. Do people really believe that EVERYTHING has been shown or paradigm #2 or any new photos will be fake if they DO show anything at all - the answer also might be something other then not what I want or actually flight 175. You have to wonder why the NTSB went into stealth mode and the NYPD, NYFD gave up control so quickly. No government official would ever release non flight 175 photos to the public. Just like they would never release CCTV Camera Number 740 or the hundreds of pentagon CCTV video tapes and CCTV's video at the gas station.. Another Simple solution is to deny that ANY photos exist in the first place.. Would anyone allow such photos to exist? Who would be that stupid? Does the public really believe that ALL the people in these Air Units would ALL happen to be corrupt enough to not talk if they witnessed something other then flight 175? To settle the outstanding issue is simple FOIL request and to get photographs that have NOT been published. What object could be in the the unpublished photos and videos and why didn't just they just send an exactly duplicate like Operation Northwood i.e would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate? The unpublished photos are of the plane in question or so called flight 175. The claim was that the air units were late to the show however the Police in this air units said on camera "the plane flew right under us". Paradigm #3 Actors or non-actors.
the fascinating case of EMT Patricia Ondrovic. Felipe David working for Aramark Corp. tending vending machines in a basement of the North Tower recalled, “That day I was in the basement in sub-level 1 sometime after 8:30am. Everything happened so fast, everything moved so fast. The building started shaking after I heard the explosion below; dust was flying everywhere and all of a sudden it got...Skin dripping off the body was mentioned by several 9/11 victims. Gamma ray radiation can cause a person to just feel heat, then pain and then the skin will be damaged. The skin may be vaporized, charred or left hanging."
911revisited
Things the "thrown to the floor" - "walls smashed people in the face". That's when I got blown.
9/11 Oral History " IT FELT LIKE YOU WERE IN SUBWAY CAR STANDING UP AND THE SUBWAY CAR WAS MAKING TURN AND YOU WERE GETTING SHIFTED BACK AND FORTH THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT FELT"
Eileen ColesOk
here's my story. I worked for Sun Microsystems on the 25th and 26th
floors of 2 WTC. When I got into the area the first plane had supposedly
already hit, but obviously nobody in the train knew that yet. I was
taking a downtown 2 express and was going
to change at Park Place for the 1 local to Cortlandt, which was the
main WTC stop. At Park Place they stopped the train, didn't tell anyone
why, just said that there was no service south of Park Place.
Since it
was only a few blocks walk to the complex I figured I'd just walk. As we
exited the train some lady came running down the stairs saying,
"They're blowing up the city! Everyone get out of the city!" We figured
she was just a nut. As I came upstairs it was chaos. A cop would not let
me into the complex. (Does that mean she walked south from Park Place to the WTC and then north to Foley Park?) Lots of first responders, lights, sirens. I walked
north to Foley Square and that is where I saw the first hole in the
building.
Now,
Foley Square (aka Federal Plaza) is only about a mile and a quarter or
so northeast of Ground Zero. From there I should have heard the second
plane hit the south tower. I heard no such thing. At no time did I ever
see or hear a plane hit Tower 2. What I *did* hear, and feel, was a
rumble under my feet like an old redbird subway train (they made a hell
of a lot more noise than the modern trains) and I was like "WTF?"
because as far as anyone knew there was no subway in that area. (Later
we found out that there were tracks and a stop there that hadn't been
used in 35 years, but I digress.) Immediately after I heard and felt
this rumbling, maybe about 10 seconds later, the south tower collapsed.
I
then began the long walk up to midtown. No transportation or
communication was available, so I figured I would go back to a site I'd
been stationed at by Sun, Morgan Stanley (47th and Broadway), and use my
hopefully still active access badge to get upstairs and let my family
and friends know I was still alive. It was a long, long walk. I was
outdoors from about 9am to 3:30pm and at no time did I see or hear any
scrambled jets.Having
worked in the buildings, I knew that they were not very wide. One day I
started wondering why none of the pictures or videos of the entry holes
had a plane or even a part of a plane visible in the impact zone. I
started wondering how big a 767 was
compared to the building itself. So I did a to-scale measurement and
found out that in the best case scenario, where the plane would be all
the way inside the building evenly and not come out the other side, the
distance between the wingtips, nose and tail evened out at about 10
feet. That looks something like this. With a distance of only 10 feet,
we should be able to see part of the plane in the holes, and they are
just not there.
Worst
case scenario, where the plane moves further through the elevator cores
(I was in those elevators and they were Not Nothin' to deal with - the
plane would have gotten well and truly tangled up in a whole lot of very
solid steel) but still does not
come out the other side of the building. The distance between the tail
and the edge of the building doubles, but we STILL should be able to see
some part of the wreckage in the hole, and it's simply not there.
The
1970s redbird subway cars made a very distinct sound, to include the
occasional screeching of wheels (which I also heard this time) as they
went around curves. What I think happened there is they were moving the
gold out of the Federal Reserve vaults below the towers.
http://youtu.be/xy5-wYNRxF8Eileen ColesI
walked up to Morgan Stanley, got on the phone and internet from there,
told my peeps I was still alive, and then walked back down to Penn
Station. The Long Island Railroad was just shoving people onto trains
and getting them out as fast as possible. There was no schedule, they
would just fill up a train and move it out. I think I got home around a
little after 5pm.Eileen ColesThe part of the subway that I heard and felt a train going through is written about here.
Eileen ColesIt
wasn't really a "shake" Ron. It felt like a subway train going under my
feet. It lasted for about 10 seconds and then the south tower
collapsed. I didn't hear or see any explosions.Eileen ColesI saw the hole from the first hit while I was in Foley Square.
I neither heard nor saw a plane hit the second tower while I was in Foley Square.
A
woman came running down into the Park Place station yelling that people
should get out of the city, "They're blowing up the city".
Two
guys came into Foley Square covered with grey dust, one guy's hair was
on fire and he put it out in the fountain. They were the ones who said a
second plane hit the other tower and that it was a terrorist attack.
As an SSE at Sun with clients in the building, I also distinctly remember getting the memo the Thursday before informing us of the sitewide powerdown that weekend, and telling us to be prepared to support customers if they had trouble bringing their systems back up.
Daniel M. PlesseEileen Coles " I ascended the steps promptly at 9am. Chaos. " If
you ascending at around and the second plane was around 9:03. Do you
remember where you were at 9:03. I don't think you made it to the park
in three minutes.
Eileen ColesDaniel M. Plesse it really wasn't that far of a walk. I was either in the park, or in transit to the park. You saw the map. I heard bupkus, and I was not that far away.
Daniel M. PlesseEileen Coles Which streets did you take. From Vesey St, N its 11 minutes. It not far but not 2-3 minutes close either. 51 Park got hit with stuff. Did you hear or see the plane debris plane parts etc
" part of the plane's landing gear and fuselage came out the north side of the tower and crashed through the roof and two of the floors of 45–47 Park Place, between West Broadway and Church Street, (600 feet (180 meters)) north of the former World Trade Center.
I was asking her about time of impact 9:03 and the unlikeliness of making it to Foley Square in time to turn around and witness the second pact. She actually heard about the second plane through other people..
"I was either in the park, or in transit to the park. ".
"I walked north to Foley Square, which is where I first saw the triangular, smoking hole in tower 1." " They said they'd come down from the first tower and that a second plane had hit the second tower."
Then I asked her about being possibility of being showered with plane debris.
"The airplane just came in on itself,
you heard the scream of the plane,
then a crack crack crack, boom boom boom and the plane just disappeared,
you didn't see the plane any more,
and then you saw the blow-out from the other side."
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
"UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... the actual airplane hitting the building. It was surreal. As we looked at it we thought it was something out of a movie. It just didn't seem. The airplane just came in at the tilt, we heard the scream of the plane, then a crack, crack, crack, boom, boom, boom, and the plane just disappeared, you didn't see the plane anymore, and then you saw the blowout from the other side. "
Skip past the all flashes coming from WTC 7
"are heart is with American". Answers are all edited out. CNN Transcripts has
his answers.
"an Arab journalist based in London is quoted today to the "Associated Press" as saying that followers of Osama Bin Laden warned three weeks ago they were going to carry out this sort of an attack. " http://premium.asia.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.41.html
SHIMON PERES, ISRAELI FOREIGN MINISTER: Good evening. Thank you.
BROWN: Before, sir, we get to any of the specific questions, let
me just ask you first, if I may, for a reaction to what has taken place
here.
PERES: Our heart is with America, and our heart is
with the thousands of families that have lost their children, their
brothers, mothers. For Israel it is a day of mourning. We announced
that tomorrow the whole nation will be mourning.
And I am
sure that as bitter and painful the event is, the only one that can
save humanity from this terrible danger is the United States of America.
It was not attack only upon America, but an attack upon civilization,
an attempt to introduce the wolves of jungle in our life, not to permit
people to fly freely, to walk safely, to be assured at the places they
live.
It is like a declaration of war, or an introduction
of a terrible arm, and we have draw all the conclusions fully,
uncompromisingly and right away.
BROWN: Sir, you have
been a soldier, a leader of a country. You have been privy to some of
the most detailed intelligence reports there are out there. Are you
surprised by the sophistication that must have been at play to carry out
these attacks?
PERES: It's an solid indication of the
most evil kind. Only evil people can arrive to such a sophistication.
And the measures must be radical as the evil itself.
I
think what should be done is to identify every country that hosts or
supports terror and declare those countries as terrorist countries. I
think there must be call to all religious leaders, Christian, Muslim,
Jewish, to condemn fully without an excuse all the suicidal vandals,
suicidal person. We know there to kill others to kill themselves. It's
against the basis of our lives, it's against the gospels of every
believer.
And then again, we have to organizations
ourselves globally because we are going over from a world of enemies,
where you have had armies to face them, to a world of global dangers
that we don't have neither a (UNINTELLIGIBLE) nor an army to stop. We
have to we get ourselves organized properly, and fully, and immediately.
BROWN: Mr. Foreign Minister, I hope you will answer
this, let me ask it anyway. Did the government of Israel have any
intelligence prior, any indications prior, that something like this
might happen?
PERES: Not specifically. We have had
warnings, and there are all the time warnings. But we know, and all of
us are aware of some of the address from where terror can origin.
But anyway, I don't have any specific information, and I wouldn't try to blame anybody without full knowledge.
BROWN: I understand that. And let me then just for the record ask
the logical follow up, which is: Since the attacks themselves, has
Israeli intelligence picked up any information that suggests who might
be involved in this?
PERES: Any information we shall
have, we shall hand over immediately to our American friends. And we
also send right now in our plane with our rescue team, which is already
on the way, whatever we shall be able to do or can do, in order to be of
help. We shall do it full heatedly, without any reservations.
Commitment to say that today each of us feels American, like an
American, with all the seriousness, all the pains, and all the
determination.
BROWN: Sir, do you have any doubt in your
mind that the root of this attack on the United States today, the root
of it took place in the Middle East, that the events in the Middle East,
the organizations in the Middle East, do you believe that to be the
case?
PERES: I think we have to bring an end to conflict
in the Middle East, but you know there were already acts of terrors in
the United States disconnected from the Middle East, and there are many
other places the same story.
We have to put an end to
terror, because it is a danger to every person and every country, no
matter where it is. So the reasons are important, but the attraction to
use terror in order to kill, in order to threaten is existing
everywhere. It is not connected to specific case or specific place.
BROWN: Sir, thank you. Shimon Peres, the Israeli foreign
minister, a long time Israeli leader in any number of governments,
joining us from Jerusalem tonight where it is a little bit after 11:00,
about 10 minutes after 11:00.
Thank you, sir, for joining us.
Side Note
Ziad Jarrah questioned in the United Arab Emirates in January 2001 at the request of the CIA.
UAE government officials repeated to CNN that Jarrah was questioned at the request of the United States.
One of the September 11 hijackers was stopped and questioned in the United Arab Emirates in January 2001
" CIA and the FBI
are investigating a call to our embassy in the United Arab Emirates in May saying that a
group or bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with
explosives."
Within U.S. Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), Title 14, Part 45, it is indicated that all U.S. commercial civil aircraft are required to contain numerous components bearing unique serial number data "secured in such a manner that it will not likely be ... lost or destroyed in an accident"as it stands, there seem to be no source records upon which the NTSB can base the views of the aircraft IDs. American eagle NOT AA N334AA serial number 22332
She Was On The 92nd Floor - Mr Beller's Neighborhood
This object is white
"people started paying
attention and watched in mounting horror as the American eagle plane
flew close enough to their building for them to read the letters on the
side of the plane. Suddenly, at the last moment, it veered and smashed
into the tower next to them" https://sites.google.com/site/911stories/insidethesouthtower:eyewitnessaccounts
"people
started paying attention and watched in mounting horror as the
American eagle plane flew close enough to their building for them to
read the letters on the side of the plane. Suddenly, at the last
moment, it veered and smashed into the tower next to them" https://sites.google.com/.../insidethesouthtower...
Jeffrey LeeYeah, right, because someone saying "American Eagle" instead of "American Airlines" and the color temperature of a photo negates the tons of actual evidence in this case. Are you guys just pulling our legs, or do you actually believe this nonsense?
Jeffrey LeeYou
have a smattering of people saying "white plane" and it's an inside
job. One hundred + see a plane at the Pentagon and they're all "fake".
Nice.
Daniel M. PlesseJeffrey Lee
You sound like you are off your nut - conflating issues and offering up false evidence (flight 11 was white) and false comments i.e (they're all fake). Now the 9/11 planes are not white i.e smattering of people said "white plane" as appose to what? Silver or Chrome color with red ?? bi-color Blue and Grey ?? Nope that didn't happen. and your "blue tail" guy
Responds from Port Authority Bus Terminal. Team of 4 heads to the 15th
floor. North Tower. He was carrying a fat Port Authority employee thus
basically saving himself. 9/11 Oral histories says they were looting candy from the candy machines on the 19th floor. they ate too much candy and got sick.
