Wednesday, May 13, 2015

Judy Wood Where Did The Tritium Come From?




Scientists from Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory identified elevated levels of tritium, a radioactive isotope of hydrogen, in samples taken from a WTC storm sewer and from the basement of WTC6, three and ten days, respectively, after the 9/11 attacks. The first group (brown bars) reflects the decrease in tritium levels following atmospheric nuclear detonations. The second group (green bars) shows the most recent tritium levels in the Great Lakes. There are no nuclear power plants on Lake Superior, so it is a good indicator for "background levels" of tritium. The middle group (yellow bars) shows tritium levels found at the WTC by Parekh, et al and Semkow, et al. These values measured at the WTC following the 9/11 attacks are about 50 times greater than background values. The fourth group (blue bars) shows values of tritium measured [inside the cell] of a Low Energy Nuclear Reaction (LENR) experiment (also known as "cold fusion"). Tritium in the LENR cell is about 50 times greater than what was seen at the WTC. The last group (red bars) are values measured in groundwater following a leak from a nuclear power plant ("hot fusion"), which is the type of reaction in nuclear and "mini-nuke" bombs or warheads. These values are 360 times greater than LENR values, and about 18,000 times greater than the WTC values (table from Dr. Judy Wood's presentation at the 2012 'Breakthrough Energy Movement' conference in Holland).
Source: http://drjudywood.com/ & http://vimeo.com/57923364

Tritium is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen that is used in research, fusion reactors, and neutron generators. The half-life of tritium is about 12.32 years. The radioactive decay product of tritium is a low energy beta that cannot penetrate the outer dead layer of human skin. Therefore, the main hazard associated with tritium is internal exposure from inhalation or ingestion. Tritium is also used in watch faces and exit signs with chemicals (e.g. phosphor) that emit light in the presence of radiation. Rifle sites have about 12mCi of tritium and exit signs contain several curies of tritium. The curie is a unit measure of an amount of radioactivity. A curie (Ci) is the amount of a radioactive substance that has 3.7x10^10 decays per second, or 1 Bacquerel (Bq). The WTC contained no exit signs with tritium, according to the group studying the tritium samples found at the WTC. They concluded that the tritium must have come from exit signs on the two alleged planes. However, as the Idaho State University Tritium Information page states, "Signs often have several curies of tritium in them. If the exit signs were severely damaged, HT gas might escape into the local area, but it should be dispersed by ventilation or wind quickly." Thus, it does not seem plausible that all of the tritium in the four exit signs on the alleged planes made it into the groundwater of WTC6, especially when you consider that WTC6 was not hit by the alleged airliners, and because rain and fire hoses would have significantly diluted any tritium from the signs. 
Source: http://www.osti.gov/scitech/biblio/15002340


  • You wrote with my clarifications: "[Dr. Wood] didn't make a conclusion and [Dr. Wood didn't] debunked the official report on Tritium."

    Yes. Dr. Wood accepted unquestioned and unchallenged the government commissioned work on tritium. If anything, that section was meant to take FGNW considerations off of the table.

    BTW, Dr. Wood also accepted unquestioned and unchallenged the government commissioned work on hot-spots and their satellite. On that front (in the government report), all it would take is mislabeling an image from, say, November and implying that it was from late September to implant false impressions.

     
    • Daniel M. Plesse Maxwell Bridges I will have disagree with you on one single point!

      [Dr. Wood didn't] debunked the official report on Tritium." I think this is an incorrect statement.


      I believe she DID debunk and question the Government..

      and I Quote
      " Thus, it does not seem plausible that all of the tritium in the four exit signs on the alleged planes made it into the groundwater of WTC6, especially when you consider that WTC6 was not hit by the alleged airliners, and because rain and fire hoses would have significantly diluted any tritium from the signs." she forgets to include the Gun Scopes which shows laziness or poor reading skills however she writes well..

      My question is when does background levels back fill into new materials i.e freshly made layers of water and dust.. or is background inescapable constant?

      I am not sure what Jones said "Dr. Jones' no-nukes paper. " Maybe a few quotes would help?

    • Maxwell Bridges Dear Mr. Daniel M. Plesse, To the extent that you've explained Dr. Wood debunking the government sponsored & scope-limited report on tritium, then I stand corrected. Debunking by Dr. Wood happened. Just not to the thrashing degree that this particular report deserved and I was hoping for. Call that disappointment #1.

      Disappointment #2 is that Dr. Wood name-drops LENR (low energy nuclear reactions), shows in a stilted manner (e.g., "in the cell of a LENR device") how LENR didn't apply, how leakage from a nuclear plant didn't apply, then seemingly drops all further nuclear considerations.

      You mentioned that she forgot to include gun scopes; I say she also forgot time pieces. You attribute it to laziness or poor reading skills. I think this applies to her research as well. I don't think she researched nuclear means very well. Hard to believe that she would't have stumbled upon Andre Gsponer and his fourth generation nuclear weapons "forward-looking papers."

      Your real question was about background levels.

      Let's be clear: we're talking tritium which is essentially a variant of water. Combined with water somehow is the mostly likely way it will be measured -- and certainly the mostly likely way human health could be impacted --, which is why they targeted their measurements with the run-off and groundwater. [An area in the report deserving of thrashing is limiting sampling to the WTC-6.] However, some tritium was transported on water vapor through the air with the dust cloud, landed on tree leafs downwind, and was measured there in very same report.

      Due to the atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons (combined with some naturally occuring sources of tritium -- vulcanos; see Dr. Jones research), the background levels of tritium increased in the years leading up to 9/11. It is an inescapable constant.

      Your question highlights a blatant error in that report, propagated further by Dr. Jones and Dr. Wood. The error is re-defining what the tritium background level should be. Granted, the levels we are talking about were still well below those tritium thresholds considered health impacting by various health agencies: small. But not insignificant. And with some measurements in that report, it implies a re-defined background level 55 times greater than other 2001 background levels. Even the mundane samples taken downwind were over 3 times greater than expected.

      Background levels are. They aren't supposed to increase with freshly made layers of water and dust. This is one of the skews of the report. Measured levels can increase, and the difference between measured levels and the original background levels is from new sources. The report, however, tried to half-heartedly skew this increase as background levels; more importantly, it assured the public that 9/11 tritium wasn't health impacting: its goal.

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  • Daniel M. Plesse Maxwell Bridges I will have disagree with you on one single point!

    [Dr. Wood didn't] debunked the official report on Tritium." I think this is an incorrect statement.

    I believe she DID debunk and question the Government..

    Quote
    " Thus, it does not seem plausible that all of the tritium in the four exit signs on the alleged planes made it into the groundwater of WTC6, especially when you consider that WTC6 was not hit by the alleged airliners, and because rain and fire hoses would have significantly diluted any tritium from the signs." she forgets to include the Gun Scopes which shows laziness or poor reading skills however she writes well..

    My question is when does background levels back fill into new materials i.e freshly made layers of water and dust.. or is background inescapable constant?

    I am not sure what Jones said "Dr. Jones' no-nukes paper. " Maybe a few quotes would help?



    Does anyone know where the Tritium came from NOW? NO!

    IF  it's NOT the stupid Plane Exit signs or the stupid gun scopes are not the stupid answer?

    Rosalee Grable
    "Tritium is produced by cold fusion reactions."
    From Philip Joy
    "In a personal email exchange she rounded on me quite severely for mentioning 'cold fusion'. She asked me if that was my idea or where did I get it, as if it was no a definite proposition on her part." Brent implosionworld.com said  "Yes, absolutely.  It was a giant meteor.  I’d run with that."

    Philip Joy Thanks, Daniel M. Plesse, have you read Where Did the Towers Go? I have. Because Tritium levels are cited by nukers as evidence of nukes, her book denies that there is sufficient tritium. There are arguments on both sides, but her main point is that ground zero tritium levels are less than in naturally occuring places such as the Great Lakes. She does not deny the tritium levels that exist or existed. PS what "crime" exactly has she committed by making these unremarkable observations? I am not a fan of Dr Wood personally, but I merely wish to set it straight that she is not appear to be covering anything up.


    Daniel M. Plesse Philip Joy She addresses the tritium on her facebook page and I copied her comments onto my blog page.. Did you bother to read her current comments on her FB or my Blog which I posted above? Is her currents on facebook different the book and does current comment nullify her older book comments?The Great Lakes have many nuclear power plants which leak tritium  so " naturally occurring" I hope she didn't say that.. Did she say that? I hope Not! As the Canadian background tritium water concentration is 2 Bq/L and so is Lake Superior
    • Daniel M. Plesse Yes it seems like a clean weapon caused the sounds and the heat.

    • Maxwell Bridges Dear Ms. Grable. I am ~not~ a physicist, but I do have an engineering background, understand technical things, and can research. When Dr. Wood name-dropped "cold fusion", I eventually dutifully researched it and studied the matter just this last Spring while unemployed.

      While cold fusion is a real thing, it isn't real enough ~today~ to power or make anything useful, let alone a whiz-bang weapon deployed mysteriously behind-the-scenes 15 years ago.

      I've read Dr. Wood's book cover-to-cover and have used it very effectively as an objectivity test in my debate opponents to find the good, the bad, and the ugly. Not until my second pass through her book did I start spotting the disinformation. [Details available upon request.]

      What you need to understand, Ms. Grable, is that Dr. Wood's work was ~never~ considered even by the author as the end station. Her purpose was to get readers to think out-of-the-box and introduce concepts that may or may not be relevant to 9/11. Actually, the sticker on the inside of her book and repeated in the intro says it all, having to do with listening to the evidence.

      Be that as it may, Dr. Wood could not power her DEW with anything real-world. And Dr. Wood has major omissions in not considering more thoroughly deviants of nuclear weapons, now named by Andre Gsponer as Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapons (FGNW). I mean, her website has a great page about the dirt that was trucked in, spread out, scooped back up a few days later, and trucked out. YET SHE DOESN'T MAKE THE OBVIOUS CONNECTION THAT THIS IS CLASSIC RADIATION MITIGATION TECHNIQUES. Further, this web page was not re-purposed in her book.

      But I digress. Cold fusion is a concept promoted by Dr. Wood that has no real-world instantiation to date. Period. If Dr. Wood had a purpose in bringing it up, it was to demonstrate weaknesses in Dr. Jones' character. He legitimately poured water on Pons & Fleischmann's cold fusion for the government, even while he pursued cold fusion research of his own.

      Before you go any further with your promotion of cold fusion, get yourself a library card at your local institution of higher education (like I did). Armed with that, you can do tons of research from home; you'd only have to go to the library to pick up the books you ordered. For the purposes of 9/11, you may not even have to read beyond the abstracts or introductory chapters to learn what you need to know. Which is: cold fusion is promising but far from real-world.

      FGNW is another story.

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    Tritium



    Larry Mallette Daniel, In answer to your questions, dust continued to be emitted from "ground zero" for many weeks after 9-11. We don't know whether the dust was rising because coarse bits of the original dust was breaking down into finer and finer particles that would be more easily suspended in air, or because bits of debris continued to crumble into dust.
    "During many days after the attack, bits of metal in the debris were observed "spontaneously" to start glowing - described by more than one eyewitness. One must presume that this occurred because of the prior absorption of energy from the interfering energy fields. The relationship of these glowing bits to the presumed "hot spots" in the area is unknown.  "
    As far as dust generation goes, the distinctive odor of the WTC dust only left the vicinity after the deconstruction of the Bankers Trust building (which contained damaged steel that continued to deteriorate) was finally completed in 2010. 
    During the deconstruction a fire broke out spontaneously (no source was ever found) in an area of the building that had been recently exposed. Two firefighters lost their lives battling that fire. Never explained.


    Daniel M. Plesse Larry Mallette The question of who witnessed the glowing you talked about.. What are details? Thanks
    Larry Mallette Daniel M. Plesse
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8POCF37G2hE

    At 25:00 - '… you'd be in the middle of what would look like steel, and fire would just pop up. firemen were coming out with their boots literally melted."

    Daniel M. Plesse Larry Mallette No  you were talking about was this. 

    ""During many days after the attack, bits of metal in the debris were observed "spontaneously" to start glowing - described by more than one eyewitness. One must presume that this occurred because of the prior absorption of energy from the interfering energy fields. The relationship of these glowing bits to the presumed "hot spots" in the area is unknown. "

    This fire based stuff would get you banned at Judy Wood controlled Facebook pages.

    Tritium could be the key smoking gun

    Tritium could be the key smoking gun.. Its another item along with high melting point sphericals.. Molybdenum spherical was found in the dust with a melting point of 2617..
     boiling temperature for aluminosilicate is approximately
    2,760 °C
    (
    2,623 ºC = 4,753 ºF).

    The highest melting point material were found in the dust as 
    sphericals.


    Tritium could be the key smoking gun.. Marcia C.. Its another item along with high melting point sphericals.. Molybdenum spherical was found in the dust with a melting point of 2617.. "Marcia C.You're right, Daniel M. Plesse. There could have been some type of small nuclear reaction in building 6. It didn't have to be the same method for every building. It was a "good" opportunity to try out different methods of destruction for future use."

    They can now partition buildings to save their cold DEW theory. 



    Daniel M. Plesse Marcia C. She did not admit or confess the unknown "missing source", that was from another paper not by Judy Wood.. That study was called

    "Study of Traces of Tritium at the World Trade Center"" 
    https://e-reports-ext.llnl.gov/pdf/241096.pdf

    That study seems to do a better Job at looking at all the possibilities however they have no idea about the condition of the weapons that
     were found fused together and the body parts were mapped across Manhattan thus shows that the Tritium watches were also blasted all over lower manhattan.. 

    Have you seen the body part map or the fused weapons? 

    I am not sure why so few have not seem 90% of the images from 9/11..




    Dear Club Judy Wood,
    What process is causing the "cheeto", "Orange" or whatever creative cereal naming schemes you choose.. Spencer Ellis can answer too..don't hide out.. or anyone else.. Please feel to join and use the keyboard..Do something.. No naming this time..
    1. DEW
    2. Heat
    3. Glowing bacteria
    4. the same effect can be seen with Hutchison's experiments
    I don't care about the naming of objects.. The issue is the process..
    Grappler investigation continues but I feel silly because no one can just say what they think is happening and they seem to find away to talk about side issues..i.e my believes or something else.. Creative Naming schemes.. feelings ... This is whole Judy Wood issue in a nutshell.. Naming things.. confusion..

    I did some research and emailed the people who sold the machines. I emailed a bunch of people. Scotty said the photo depicts a "NYE Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple". I started with M. C. Faulkner & Sons and ended up with National Attachments in Gorham, Maine.. Bottomline "The Picture below is a "Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple". That can handle red hot molten steel." Example #2 Tritium research ends without conclusion.. go figure ?






    "Study of Traces of Tritium at the World Trade Center" already concluded the planes were not the cause,(or guns sights) 
    "Therefore, the source term from the airplanes alone is too small to
    explain the measured concentrations, and another missing source is needed." 

    so why did Judy just end at the exit signs. 

    and another missing source is needed... So its weapon sights (plus the possibly tritium watches.. 
     Weapons in WTC 6 were found fused together 
    https://donaldfox.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/wtc6.png
    The tritium second sources possibility named watches is another silly statement because the body part map shows people were blasted all across lower Manhattan..
     


    No special concentration of watches should exist at WTC 6..

    tritium watches exist everywhere without any special connection to wtc 6. Why would tritium watches be special item. Was any watches found inside WTC 6, NO!
    Debris, from which tritium was slowly released in the lingering fires, 
     a scenario would require a minimum of 120 equipped weapons (with sights) destroyed and a quantitative capturing of tritium, which is too high, since many weapons were found with only minor damage (not true see photo below) and tritium sights are shielded in a metal. Therefore, such a mechanism alone is not sufficient to account for the measured HTO concentrations.
    Then it says!This indicates that the weapons/watches are consistent with the missing source, which would have complemented the airplane source.

    Keep adding crap until it works

    Photo below shows the states of the second source.. 


    The Weapons in WTC 6 were turned into ROCKS

    Then Judy just ends her tritium investigation without  any conclusion and her members are well trained to accept this result..

    Marcia C. Yes. She determines that the higher levels of Tritium in WTC 6 ground water did not come from the exit signs of the hijacked airplanes. The conclusion is that she doesn't know the cause of the higher Tritium levels.
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    The end of Wood investigation ends with "Dear World"

    Was Non-Electrical Levitation & Klystron TWTA (Tweeta's) used to craete the effects you see on 9/11? Multiple stage depressed collector (MSDC) klystron based amplifier, September 2000http://www.google.com/patents/US6552490 Transverse field collector for a traveling wave tube, September 2000http://www.google.com/patents/US5952785 Was MF GLOBAL & Jon Corzine via CME Group's EFAT (Energy Trading) on Oct 31st 2011, USED to BURY the FLYWHEEL technology and cause the bankruptcy of BEACON POWER on Sunday Oct 30th 2011, the day before? Beacon Power, like SOLYNDRA & HANERGY, had the most efficient technology in their sector, called "FREQUENCY REGULATION". Weeks earlier U.S. regulators ruled in favor of Beacon Power's technology which at the time, market did not pay companies for "efficiency" or the ability to transform mechanical energy to electrical energy at a 300% more efficient rate. 


    • Daniel M. Plesse Keith McNamara "dynamic has ever before or since been noted by any other storm." Hmmm I wonder.. Keith McNamara these tracks all seem to match Erin and the point if this exercise.. 

      Hurricane Tracks are public information and anyone can look and research all the tracks and see that most follow Erin's path.. The next issue is: Do broadcasters talk about these storms? The answer no.. 
      “If it bleeds, it leads.” Often, the more lurid the story, the better its chances of topping the broadcast.. This holds true for storms too..

      No High Pressure Dome from HAARP.. 
    9/11 Survivor Shares Molten Lava Story at Ground Zero


    Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple Can handle red hot molten steel.

    M. C. Faulkner & Sons

    AttachmentsMay 12 (4 days ago)
    to me
    I suggest you talk with National Attachments in Gorham, Maine 207-839-9999.  They probably sold the Nye Grapple – Nye is located in Canada, you could talk with them also.  They would have better answers than we would


    Sincerely,

    Susan Williams
    M. C. Faulkner & Sons, Inc.

    Dan Plesse dan.plesse@gmail.com

    May 12 (4 days ago)
    to S.



    Scotty I am referring to this photograph with NYE Grapple.

    Do you know if NYE had problems at the World Trade Center because the molten iron? Someone said that external custom shields might have been used to deal with this issue.. Do you have any idea? Can you ask around? Thanks 

    S. ationalattachments.com

    1:53 PM (12 minutes ago)
    to me
    Was no issues at Ground Zero. Didn't do anything besides how we normally build them
    Second Email

    S. nationalattachments
    1:56 PM (3 minutes ago)

    to me
    The Picture below is a "Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple". That can handle red hot molten steel. Did you want a Hydraulic one ? Or will one below work. Has stiff arm on backside and front moves with your bucket cylinder
    Scotty,

           I think the issue of "it can't be molten iron because the machines what broken down do to heat" was put to rest by the Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple.. But did they know that red hot material would be popping out before hand? Did lesser machines have to be swapped out or place on the edges or colder areas? When did the Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple arrive at GZ? Did the orders start popping up on 9/11 or sometime after.

    Dan..

     @nationalattachments.com

    Attachments2:52 PM (23 minutes ago)
    to me

    Didn't know till they got in there that there would be molten iron. And all 12 grapples survived. NYE was the only one not to break 

    Scott Guimond II

    National Attachments

    Sent from my iPhone


     @nationalattachments.com

    May 13 (3 days ago)
    to me
    No we had 12 NYE Mechanical Extreme Service Grapples there, and of the maybe 3-4 brands that were there. 
    Only NYE withstood the punishment.
    Smallest NYE grapple was on a EX550, biggest was EX1200.

    Best Regards
    S, 

          So NYC already had these 12 Mechanical Extreme Service Grapples in and around the city ready to go? 

    Dan

    The 9/11 investigation continues ...Where Did The Tritium Come From? Officially its 4 exit signs plus guns which are now reside inside giant rocks which the 9/11 museums has changed the cause from compression to heat therefore the stones don't have to be taken apart to search for remains which was requested by the family members and thus denied.. Dr. Judy Wood has declared the official theory as ridiculous however also fails point to cause for Tritium, giant meteors and high melting point sphericals found in the dust or any hard evidence what-so-ever..

    How fast were the planes going and why is there is a pretty wide variance


    Flight 175 flew as fast as Colt .45




    Which speed numbers do you use.. NTSB - NIST or WIKI or lower yet 
    Shilley Walker's numbers

    WIKI 2006 numbers 
    "Flight 11 was traveling roughly 490 mph (790 km/h) when it crashed into the north tower, Flight 175 hit the south tower at about 590 mph (950 km/h). " 

    http://web.archive.org/.../Collapse_of_the_World_Trade...

    .......................................................flight 175 .......Flight 11
    1. WIKI ......................... ............. ....590 mph 490 mph
    2. "Radar Data Impact Speed Study" .586. ..... 494 
    3. NIST ......................................... .542 and ......443 mph 
    4. Shilley Walker ..............................530 and ......400 mph

    " .45 ACP pistol round has a muzzle velocity of 850 ft/s typically. That translates to about 580 mph."
    .45 Colt 
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_Colt


    bf (540 J) of muzzle energy at about 860 ft/s (260 m/s), making it roughly equivalent to modern .45 ACP loads. There are Cowboy Action Shooting loads which develop muzzle velocities of around 750 ft/s (230 m/s). Some handloads and factory manufactured cartridges put this round in the same class as the .44 Magnum.

    .45 Colt 860 ft/s (260 m/s) = 586.364 MPH muzzle matches 
    NTSB concludes 510 (586.898 MPH) by 0.534 so a plane few as fast as .45 Colt flies thought air ?


    Monday, May 11, 2015

    9/11 and Police Commissioner William Bratton




    9/11 Bill Bratton said all the buildings in the area had to checked because of the phenomenal series of explosions.. Some building are still cracked today i.e the federal reserve building,,,


    i.e
    The $16 million rehabilitation can be traced directly to the attack on New York.
    "We have severe cracks in the infrastructure, which had existed prior to 9/11, but 9/11 exacerbated the cracking" of interior and exterior walls, said Joseph T. Avery, superintendent of Manhattan sites for the National Park Service, which runs Federal Hall. One of those fissures, in a basement storage room, had grown ominously in the wake of the attack. "What had been a pinhole was big enough that you could put your thumb in," Mr. Avery recalled.
    The park service called in the architectural and engineering firm Einhorn Yaffee Prescott. One of the attention-grabbing exterior cracks was at the corner near Pine Street. Formerly a hairline, it was now closer to a quarter-inch wide.
    "It seems to have been the seismic event of the collapses that triggered the cracking," said Marie Ennis, an engineer and the firm's principal in charge of the project.
    Indira Singh 9/11 surrounding buildings earthquake damage report
    https://youtu.be/SjIPEunSC40

    Wednesday, May 6, 2015

    NYC Rushed Evidence Removal of World Trade Center




    • M. C. Faulkner & Sons mcfaulkner@securespeed.us

      Attachments10:45 AM (1 hour ago)
      to me
      The seals in the cylinders may be damaged by the heat.  We would have to build special shields for the cylinders, which would involve a custom grapple, to make room for the protection.  We do know our grapple has been used to move burning debris without any issues, but molten material may be more intense
       
      Sincerely,

      This is an extraordinarily articulate indictment of the failures of investigation after 9/11... Sadly it fell upon deaf ears at the time.
      NYC Rushed Evidence Removal of World Trade Center before FEMA BPAT
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klaLuk1Aq-M
      Sadly the Truth movement also failed to make this a part of the 9/11 Truth fabric like so many other topics and issues from whitehorse yukon fake hijack codes, to professional HTA Arson past, future and present and missing GeoPosition and depth data all 9/11 Earthquakes.

      NYC Rushed Evidence Removal of World Trade Center before FEMA


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    • Jay Phillip Shore "The concrete was literally pulverized; all you're left with is steel and dust."
      - Robert A. Kelman, General Manager of Hugo Neu Schnitzer East, who managed the destruction of 250,000 tons of steel from the World Trade Center by sending it to Asian smelters, far from the prying eyes of 9/11 investigators.http://www.hugoneu.com/


      Hugo Neu
      HUGONEU.COM
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    • Jay Phillip Shore The World Trade Center complex contained an estimated 285,000 tons of steel. In September 2002 the Associated Press reported that Hugo Neu had processed 250,000 tons (88 percent) of WTC steel: "The company that filled Megasteel's order, Hugo Neu Schnitzer East of Jersey City, New Jersey, said it had handled 250,000 tons of trade center scrap and had sent shipments to 11 countries, including Malaysia, China, South Korea and Japan."  http://www.hugoneu.com/what-we-do/champions-of-recycling/
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    • Jay Phillip Shore Robert Kelman of Hugo Neu told the press that he was selling the steel for about $105 a ton. But he also paid up to $25 a ton to ship it. "I'm hoping I net $5 a ton, but I don't know," he said. The two recyclers who bought the steel from the World Trade Center were taking on a huge amount of steel in the most depressed scrap market of their time. Was there a hidden partner who managed the destruction of the steel? 

      Today, Hugo Neu is invested in an Israeli venture capital fund called the Agua-Agro Fund. The Agua-Agro fund is managed by Nir Belzer, a senior manager and co-founder of Israel's Millenium Materials Technologies Funds with a man named Oren Gafri. http://www.bloomberg.com/res.../stocks/private/person.asp....


      Mr. Oren Gafri is a Senior Partner at Millennium Materials Technologies Funds. Mr. Gafri also serves as a Co-Founder at the firm. Mr. Gafri was the Chief Executive Officer and President at Pulsar Welding Ltd. from 1996 to 2001 and a General Manager at Chemitas Ltd., from 1989 to 1995. He was the Pre
      BLOOMBERG.COM
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    • Jay Phillip Shore National Public Radio (NPR) reported in February 2002 that Hugo Neu had received, processed and shipped almost 230,000 tons of steel from the World Trade Center. Kelman told NPR that some of the steel went directly from ground zero to barges -- to his junkyard in Jersey City. At the Hugo Neu junkyard the girders and columns were cut into pieces shorter than five feet (60 inches) and mixed in with other scrap before being sent to smelters in Asia, although the shipping cost was obviously much higher than sending it to an American steel maker. Cut, mix, and ship, seems to have been the Hugo Neu program for the crucial evidence from the World Trade Center. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1138655

      Noah Adams talks with Bob Kelman, senior vice president of Hugo Neu Schnitzer in Jersey City, N.J.,...
      NPR.ORG|BY ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
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