Where Did The Tritium Come From?
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Scientists
from Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory identified elevated levels
of tritium, a radioactive isotope of hydrogen, in samples taken from a
WTC storm sewer and from the basement of WTC6, three and ten days,
respectively, after the 9/11 attacks. The first group (brown bars)
reflects the decrease in tritium levels following atmospheric nuclear
detonations. The second group (green bars) shows
the most recent tritium levels in the Great Lakes. There are no nuclear
power plants on Lake Superior, so it is a good indicator for
"background levels" of tritium. The middle group (yellow bars) shows
tritium levels found at the WTC by Parekh, et al and Semkow, et al.
These values measured at the WTC following the 9/11 attacks are about 50
times greater than background values. The fourth group (blue bars)
shows values of tritium measured [inside the cell] of a Low Energy Nuclear
Reaction (LENR) experiment (also known as "cold fusion"). Tritium in
the LENR cell is about 50 times greater than what was seen at the WTC.
The last group (red bars) are values measured in groundwater following a
leak from a nuclear power plant ("hot fusion"), which is the type of
reaction in nuclear and "mini-nuke" bombs or warheads. These values are
360 times greater than LENR values, and about 18,000 times greater than
the WTC values (table from Dr. Judy Wood's presentation at the 2012
'Breakthrough Energy Movement' conference in Holland).
Source: http://drjudywood.com/ & http://vimeo.com/57923364
Tritium is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen that is used in research, fusion reactors, and neutron generators. The half-life of tritium is about 12.32 years. The radioactive decay product of tritium is a low energy beta that cannot penetrate the outer dead layer of human skin. Therefore, the main hazard associated with tritium is internal exposure from inhalation or ingestion. Tritium is also used in watch faces and exit signs with chemicals (e.g. phosphor) that emit light in the presence of radiation. Rifle sites have about 12mCi of tritium and exit signs contain several curies of tritium. The curie is a unit measure of an amount of radioactivity. A curie (Ci) is the amount of a radioactive substance that has 3.7x10^10 decays per second, or 1 Bacquerel (Bq). The WTC contained no exit signs with tritium, according to the group studying the tritium samples found at the WTC. They concluded that the tritium must have come from exit signs on the two alleged planes. However, as the Idaho State University Tritium Information page states, "Signs often have several curies of tritium in them. If the exit signs were severely damaged, HT gas might escape into the local area, but it should be dispersed by ventilation or wind quickly." Thus, it does not seem plausible that all of the tritium in the four exit signs on the alleged planes made it into the groundwater of WTC6, especially when you consider that WTC6 was not hit by the alleged airliners, and because rain and fire hoses would have significantly diluted any tritium from the signs.
Source: http://www.osti.gov/ scitech/biblio/15002340
Source: http://drjudywood.com/ & http://vimeo.com/57923364
Tritium is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen that is used in research, fusion reactors, and neutron generators. The half-life of tritium is about 12.32 years. The radioactive decay product of tritium is a low energy beta that cannot penetrate the outer dead layer of human skin. Therefore, the main hazard associated with tritium is internal exposure from inhalation or ingestion. Tritium is also used in watch faces and exit signs with chemicals (e.g. phosphor) that emit light in the presence of radiation. Rifle sites have about 12mCi of tritium and exit signs contain several curies of tritium. The curie is a unit measure of an amount of radioactivity. A curie (Ci) is the amount of a radioactive substance that has 3.7x10^10 decays per second, or 1 Bacquerel (Bq). The WTC contained no exit signs with tritium, according to the group studying the tritium samples found at the WTC. They concluded that the tritium must have come from exit signs on the two alleged planes. However, as the Idaho State University Tritium Information page states, "Signs often have several curies of tritium in them. If the exit signs were severely damaged, HT gas might escape into the local area, but it should be dispersed by ventilation or wind quickly." Thus, it does not seem plausible that all of the tritium in the four exit signs on the alleged planes made it into the groundwater of WTC6, especially when you consider that WTC6 was not hit by the alleged airliners, and because rain and fire hoses would have significantly diluted any tritium from the signs.
Source: http://www.osti.gov/
You wrote with my clarifications: "[Dr. Wood] didn't make a conclusion and [Dr. Wood didn't] debunked the official report on Tritium."
Yes. Dr. Wood accepted unquestioned and unchallenged the government commissioned work on tritium. If anything, that section was meant to take FGNW considerations off of the table.
BTW, Dr. Wood also accepted unquestioned and unchallenged the government commissioned work on hot-spots and their satellite. On that front (in the government report), all it would take is mislabeling an image from, say, November and implying that it was from late September to implant false impressions.
- Daniel M. Plesse Maxwell Bridges I will have disagree with you on one single point!
[Dr. Wood didn't] debunked the official report on Tritium." I think this is an incorrect statement.
I believe she DID debunk and question the Government..
and I Quote
" Thus, it does not seem plausible that all of the tritium in the four exit signs on the alleged planes made it into the groundwater of WTC6, especially when you consider that WTC6 was not hit by the alleged airliners, and because rain and fire hoses would have significantly diluted any tritium from the signs." she forgets to include the Gun Scopes which shows laziness or poor reading skills however she writes well..
My question is when does background levels back fill into new materials i.e freshly made layers of water and dust.. or is background inescapable constant?
I am not sure what Jones said "Dr. Jones' no-nukes paper. " Maybe a few quotes would help?
Maxwell Bridges Dear Mr. Daniel M. Plesse, To the extent that you've explained Dr. Wood debunking the government sponsored & scope-limited report on tritium, then I stand corrected. Debunking by Dr. Wood happened. Just not to the thrashing degree that this particular report deserved and I was hoping for. Call that disappointment #1.
Disappointment #2 is that Dr. Wood name-drops LENR (low energy nuclear reactions), shows in a stilted manner (e.g., "in the cell of a LENR device") how LENR didn't apply, how leakage from a nuclear plant didn't apply, then seemingly drops all further nuclear considerations.
You mentioned that she forgot to include gun scopes; I say she also forgot time pieces. You attribute it to laziness or poor reading skills. I think this applies to her research as well. I don't think she researched nuclear means very well. Hard to believe that she would't have stumbled upon Andre Gsponer and his fourth generation nuclear weapons "forward-looking papers."
Your real question was about background levels.
Let's be clear: we're talking tritium which is essentially a variant of water. Combined with water somehow is the mostly likely way it will be measured -- and certainly the mostly likely way human health could be impacted --, which is why they targeted their measurements with the run-off and groundwater. [An area in the report deserving of thrashing is limiting sampling to the WTC-6.] However, some tritium was transported on water vapor through the air with the dust cloud, landed on tree leafs downwind, and was measured there in very same report.
Due to the atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons (combined with some naturally occuring sources of tritium -- vulcanos; see Dr. Jones research), the background levels of tritium increased in the years leading up to 9/11. It is an inescapable constant.
Your question highlights a blatant error in that report, propagated further by Dr. Jones and Dr. Wood. The error is re-defining what the tritium background level should be. Granted, the levels we are talking about were still well below those tritium thresholds considered health impacting by various health agencies: small. But not insignificant. And with some measurements in that report, it implies a re-defined background level 55 times greater than other 2001 background levels. Even the mundane samples taken downwind were over 3 times greater than expected.
Background levels are. They aren't supposed to increase with freshly made layers of water and dust. This is one of the skews of the report. Measured levels can increase, and the difference between measured levels and the original background levels is from new sources. The report, however, tried to half-heartedly skew this increase as background levels; more importantly, it assured the public that 9/11 tritium wasn't health impacting: its goal.
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Daniel M. Plesse Maxwell Bridges I will have disagree with you on one single point!
[Dr. Wood didn't] debunked the official report on Tritium." I think this is an incorrect statement.
I believe she DID debunk and question the Government..
Quote
" Thus, it does not seem plausible that all of the tritium in the four exit signs on the alleged planes made it into the groundwater of WTC6, especially when you consider that WTC6 was not hit by the alleged airliners, and because rain and fire hoses would have significantly diluted any tritium from the signs." she forgets to include the Gun Scopes which shows laziness or poor reading skills however she writes well..
My question is when does background levels back fill into new materials i.e freshly made layers of water and dust.. or is background inescapable constant?
I am not sure what Jones said "Dr. Jones' no-nukes paper. " Maybe a few quotes would help?
[Dr. Wood didn't] debunked the official report on Tritium." I think this is an incorrect statement.
I believe she DID debunk and question the Government..
Quote
" Thus, it does not seem plausible that all of the tritium in the four exit signs on the alleged planes made it into the groundwater of WTC6, especially when you consider that WTC6 was not hit by the alleged airliners, and because rain and fire hoses would have significantly diluted any tritium from the signs." she forgets to include the Gun Scopes which shows laziness or poor reading skills however she writes well..
My question is when does background levels back fill into new materials i.e freshly made layers of water and dust.. or is background inescapable constant?
I am not sure what Jones said "Dr. Jones' no-nukes paper. " Maybe a few quotes would help?
Does anyone know where the Tritium came from NOW? NO!
IF it's NOT the stupid Plane Exit signs or the stupid gun scopes are not the stupid answer?
Rosalee Grable "Tritium is produced by cold fusion reactions."
From Philip Joy
"In a personal email exchange she rounded on me quite severely for mentioning 'cold fusion'. She asked me if that was my idea or where did I get it, as if it was no a definite proposition on her part." Brent implosionworld.com said "Yes, absolutely. It was a giant meteor. I’d run with that."
Philip Joy Thanks, Daniel M. Plesse,
have you read Where Did the Towers Go? I have. Because Tritium levels
are cited by nukers as evidence of nukes, her book denies that there is
sufficient tritium. There are arguments on both sides, but her main
point is that ground
zero tritium levels are less than in naturally occuring places such as
the Great Lakes. She does not deny the tritium levels that exist or
existed. PS what "crime" exactly has she committed by making these
unremarkable observations? I am not a fan of Dr Wood personally, but I
merely wish to set it straight that she is not appear to be covering
anything up.
Daniel M. Plesse Philip Joy
She
addresses the tritium on her facebook page and I copied her comments
onto my blog page.. Did you bother to read her current comments on her
FB or my Blog which I posted above? Is her currents on facebook
different the book and does current comment nullify her older book
comments?The Great Lakes have many nuclear power plants which leak tritium so " naturally occurring" I hope she didn't say that.. Did
she say that? I hope Not! As the Canadian background tritium water concentration is 2 Bq/L and so is Lake Superior
- Daniel M. Plesse Yes it seems like a clean weapon caused the sounds and the heat.
Maxwell Bridges Dear
Ms. Grable. I am ~not~ a physicist, but I do have an engineering
background, understand technical things, and can research. When Dr. Wood
name-dropped "cold fusion", I eventually dutifully researched it and
studied the matter just this last Spring while unemployed.
While cold fusion is a real thing, it isn't real enough ~today~ to power or make anything useful, let alone a whiz-bang weapon deployed mysteriously behind-the-scenes 15 years ago.
I've read Dr. Wood's book cover-to-cover and have used it very effectively as an objectivity test in my debate opponents to find the good, the bad, and the ugly. Not until my second pass through her book did I start spotting the disinformation. [Details available upon request.]
What you need to understand, Ms. Grable, is that Dr. Wood's work was ~never~ considered even by the author as the end station. Her purpose was to get readers to think out-of-the-box and introduce concepts that may or may not be relevant to 9/11. Actually, the sticker on the inside of her book and repeated in the intro says it all, having to do with listening to the evidence.
Be that as it may, Dr. Wood could not power her DEW with anything real-world. And Dr. Wood has major omissions in not considering more thoroughly deviants of nuclear weapons, now named by Andre Gsponer as Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapons (FGNW). I mean, her website has a great page about the dirt that was trucked in, spread out, scooped back up a few days later, and trucked out. YET SHE DOESN'T MAKE THE OBVIOUS CONNECTION THAT THIS IS CLASSIC RADIATION MITIGATION TECHNIQUES. Further, this web page was not re-purposed in her book.
But I digress. Cold fusion is a concept promoted by Dr. Wood that has no real-world instantiation to date. Period. If Dr. Wood had a purpose in bringing it up, it was to demonstrate weaknesses in Dr. Jones' character. He legitimately poured water on Pons & Fleischmann's cold fusion for the government, even while he pursued cold fusion research of his own.
Before you go any further with your promotion of cold fusion, get yourself a library card at your local institution of higher education (like I did). Armed with that, you can do tons of research from home; you'd only have to go to the library to pick up the books you ordered. For the purposes of 9/11, you may not even have to read beyond the abstracts or introductory chapters to learn what you need to know. Which is: cold fusion is promising but far from real-world.
FGNW is another story.
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While cold fusion is a real thing, it isn't real enough ~today~ to power or make anything useful, let alone a whiz-bang weapon deployed mysteriously behind-the-scenes 15 years ago.
I've read Dr. Wood's book cover-to-cover and have used it very effectively as an objectivity test in my debate opponents to find the good, the bad, and the ugly. Not until my second pass through her book did I start spotting the disinformation. [Details available upon request.]
What you need to understand, Ms. Grable, is that Dr. Wood's work was ~never~ considered even by the author as the end station. Her purpose was to get readers to think out-of-the-box and introduce concepts that may or may not be relevant to 9/11. Actually, the sticker on the inside of her book and repeated in the intro says it all, having to do with listening to the evidence.
Be that as it may, Dr. Wood could not power her DEW with anything real-world. And Dr. Wood has major omissions in not considering more thoroughly deviants of nuclear weapons, now named by Andre Gsponer as Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapons (FGNW). I mean, her website has a great page about the dirt that was trucked in, spread out, scooped back up a few days later, and trucked out. YET SHE DOESN'T MAKE THE OBVIOUS CONNECTION THAT THIS IS CLASSIC RADIATION MITIGATION TECHNIQUES. Further, this web page was not re-purposed in her book.
But I digress. Cold fusion is a concept promoted by Dr. Wood that has no real-world instantiation to date. Period. If Dr. Wood had a purpose in bringing it up, it was to demonstrate weaknesses in Dr. Jones' character. He legitimately poured water on Pons & Fleischmann's cold fusion for the government, even while he pursued cold fusion research of his own.
Before you go any further with your promotion of cold fusion, get yourself a library card at your local institution of higher education (like I did). Armed with that, you can do tons of research from home; you'd only have to go to the library to pick up the books you ordered. For the purposes of 9/11, you may not even have to read beyond the abstracts or introductory chapters to learn what you need to know. Which is: cold fusion is promising but far from real-world.
FGNW is another story.
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Tritium
Tritium could be the key smoking gun.. Its another item along with high melting point sphericals.. Molybdenum spherical was found in the dust with a melting point of 2617.. boiling temperature for aluminosilicate is approximately
2,760 °C (2,623 ºC = 4,753 ºF).
The highest melting point material were found in the dust as sphericals.
Tritium could be the key smoking gun.. Marcia C.. Its another item along with high melting point sphericals.. Molybdenum spherical was found in the dust with a melting point of 2617..
"Marcia C.You're right, Daniel M. Plesse. There could have been some type of small nuclear reaction in building 6. It didn't have to be the same method for every building. It was a "good" opportunity to try out different methods of destruction for future use."
They can now partition buildings to save their cold DEW theory.
They can now partition buildings to save their cold DEW theory.
Dear Club Judy Wood,
What process is causing the "cheeto", "Orange" or whatever creative cereal naming schemes you choose.. Spencer Ellis can answer too..don't hide out.. or anyone else.. Please feel to join and use the keyboard..Do something.. No naming this time..
1. DEW
2. Heat
3. Glowing bacteria4. the same effect can be seen with Hutchison's experiments
I don't care about the naming of objects.. The issue is the process..
Grappler investigation continues but I feel silly because no one can just say what they think is happening and they seem to find away to talk about side issues..i.e my believes or something else.. Creative Naming schemes.. feelings ... This is whole Judy Wood issue in a nutshell.. Naming things.. confusion..
I did some research and emailed the people who sold the machines. I emailed a bunch of people. Scotty said the photo depicts a "NYE Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple". I started with M. C. Faulkner & Sons and ended up with National Attachments in Gorham, Maine.. Bottomline "The Picture below is a "Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple". That can handle red hot molten steel."
Example #2 Tritium research ends without conclusion.. go figure ?
"Study of Traces of Tritium at the World Trade Center" already concluded the planes were not the cause,(or guns sights) "Therefore, the source term from the airplanes alone is too small toexplain the measured concentrations, and another missing source is needed." so why did Judy just end at the exit signs. and another missing source is needed... So its weapon sights (plus the possibly tritium watches.. Weapons in WTC 6 were found fused together https://donaldfox.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/wtc6.pngThe tritium second sources possibility named watches is another silly statement because the body part map shows people were blasted all across lower Manhattan.. No special concentration of watches should exist at WTC 6.. tritium watches exist everywhere without any special connection to wtc 6. Why would tritium watches be special item. Was any watches found inside WTC 6, NO!Debris, from which tritium was slowly released in the lingering fires, a scenario would require a minimum of 120 equipped weapons (with sights) destroyed and a quantitative capturing of tritium, which is too high, since many weapons were found with only minor damage (not true see photo below) and tritium sights are shielded in a metal. Therefore, such a mechanism alone is not sufficient to account for the measured HTO concentrations. Then it says!This indicates that the weapons/watches are consistent with the missing source, which would have complemented the airplane source. Keep adding crap until it works Photo below shows the states of the second source.. The Weapons in WTC 6 were turned into ROCKS Then Judy just ends her tritium investigation without any conclusion and her members are well trained to accept this result.. The end of Wood investigation ends with "Dear World" |
9/11 Survivor Shares Molten Lava Story at Ground Zero
Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple Can handle red hot molten steel.
Scotty I am referring to this photograph with NYE Grapple.
Do you know if NYE had problems at the World Trade Center because the molten iron? Someone said that external custom shields might have been used to deal with this issue.. Do you have any idea? Can you ask around? Thanks
Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple Can handle red hot molten steel.
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May 12 (4 days ago)
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I suggest you talk with National Attachments in Gorham, Maine 207-839-9999. They probably sold the Nye Grapple – Nye is located in Canada, you could talk with them also. They would have better answers than we would
Sincerely,
Susan Williams
M. C. Faulkner & Sons, Inc.
Susan Williams
M. C. Faulkner & Sons, Inc.
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Scotty I am referring to this photograph with NYE Grapple.
Do you know if NYE had problems at the World Trade Center because the molten iron? Someone said that external custom shields might have been used to deal with this issue.. Do you have any idea? Can you ask around? Thanks
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Was no issues at Ground Zero. Didn't do anything besides how we normally build them
Second Email
S. nationalattachments
1:56 PM (3 minutes ago)
to me
The Picture below is a "Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple". That can handle red hot molten steel. Did you want a Hydraulic one ? Or will one below work. Has stiff arm on backside and front moves with your bucket cylinder
Scotty,
I think the issue of "it can't be molten iron because the machines what broken down do to heat" was put to rest by the Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple.. But did they know that red hot material would be popping out before hand? Did lesser machines have to be swapped out or place on the edges or colder areas? When did the Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple arrive at GZ? Did the orders start popping up on 9/11 or sometime after.
Dan..
Didn't know till they got in there that there would be molten iron. And all 12 grapples survived. NYE was the only one not to break
Scott Guimond II
The 9/11 investigation continues ...Where Did The Tritium Come From? Officially its 4 exit signs plus guns which are now reside inside giant rocks which the 9/11 museums has changed the cause from compression to heat therefore the stones don't have to be taken apart to search for remains which was requested by the family members and thus denied.. Dr. Judy Wood has declared the official theory as ridiculous however also fails point to cause for Tritium, giant meteors and high melting point sphericals found in the dust or any hard evidence what-so-ever..
Scotty,
I think the issue of "it can't be molten iron because the machines what broken down do to heat" was put to rest by the Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple.. But did they know that red hot material would be popping out before hand? Did lesser machines have to be swapped out or place on the edges or colder areas? When did the Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple arrive at GZ? Did the orders start popping up on 9/11 or sometime after.
Dan..
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Didn't know till they got in there that there would be molten iron. And all 12 grapples survived. NYE was the only one not to break
Scott Guimond II
National Attachments
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May 13 (3 days ago)
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No we had 12 NYE Mechanical Extreme Service Grapples there, and of the maybe 3-4 brands that were there.
Only NYE withstood the punishment.
Smallest NYE grapple was on a EX550, biggest was EX1200.
Best Regards
S,
So NYC already had these 12 Mechanical Extreme Service Grapples in and around the city ready to go?
Dan
So NYC already had these 12 Mechanical Extreme Service Grapples in and around the city ready to go?
Dan