Just enough lateral explosive force exerted on the South Tower to not only enable survival of people in South Tower Lobby but also an easy escape around the debris field before the North Tower Collapse minutes later..
""People inside the South Tower felt the floor vibrate as if a small earthquake were occurring. Instinctively, they sought shelter behind the massive pillars in the lobby, then everything went black. The vibration lasted for about 30 seconds.
The doors were knocked out, and a huge ball of flame created by the exploding diesel fuel from the building’s own supply tank shot from the elevator shaft and out the doors of the South Tower, consuming everything in its path."
Does someone know name of this witness?
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Hello Dan... That report came from people inside the lobby who successfully evacuated the building. Those who were outside the building also felt the vibration as it passed through the ground.
If I recall correctly from my master's degree classes, there were several diesel tanks stored on the building roof as a precaution following the previous bombing attempt in the underground garage. It was believed that the fuel would be safer on the roof. However, when the planes hit, their own jet fuel combined with the building's diesel supply to rain down a mixture that created an inferno. That fireball, at least in part, brought down the structure.
People died not only from the explosion and demolition, but also from less likely causes, such as concussion shock waves, which traveled into tunnels that otherwise remained relatively intact.
I hope that answers your question.
Best,
Donna Donna Maurillo<donna.maurillo@sjsu.edu>
Dan - I just went to the 9-11 museum. Have you been?
THE FIRE The fire is the most misunderstood part of the WTC collapse. Even today, the media report (and many scientists believe) that the steel melted. It is argued that the jet fuel burns very hot, especially with so much fuel present. This is not true. http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/jom/0112/eagar/eagar-0112.html
Very factual reasons how each plane took down the WTCs - "Thus, the failure of the steel was due to two factors: loss of strength due to the temperature of the fire, and loss of structural integrity due to distortion of the steel from the non-uniform temperatures in the fire." What a terrible loss!
The key to undermining these straw arguments is the molten materials displayed to the public at all museums, the missing seismic data and claims that "The Sept 11 2001 events are not in the NEIC catalog" reason the 13 stations in NYC area was "too sparse" to collect data and the military grade arson materials found in the dust.. These are more factual because you see each of items in dust samples, missing records at NEIC and molten materials at each museum. 46% of 3,100 victims were never found and the 46,000 floor trusses are missing.. Those "factual reasons" are assumptions i.e a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, but without proof or evidence..
True enough - when those buildings went down they were obliterated! So fast! I saw the buildings burn then collapse on themselves.
More interesting is the South Tower Lobby Survivors looked up and witnessed blue sky. All 110 floors above went every place but the lobby area and the same story happened in the North Tower.. If you at the bottom center of each tower you walked out, if you were any place else you went missing.. https://youtu.be/j9RsibP6vL4
""People inside the South Tower felt the floor vibrate as if a small earthquake were occurring. Instinctively, they sought shelter behind the massive pillars in the lobby, then everything went black. The vibration lasted for about 30 seconds.
The doors were knocked out, and a huge ball of flame created by the exploding diesel fuel from the building’s own supply tank shot from the elevator shaft and out the doors of the South Tower, consuming everything in its path."
""People inside the South Tower felt the floor vibrate as if a small earthquake were occurring. Instinctively, they sought shelter behind the massive pillars in the lobby, then everything went black. The vibration lasted for about 30 seconds.
The doors were knocked out, and a huge ball of flame created by the exploding diesel fuel from the building’s own supply tank shot from the elevator shaft and out the doors of the South Tower, consuming everything in its path."
is the time before impact and when the plane in the background starts to circle and the second impact.. Summary an unknown plane circles the towers three times before impact 9:03:00 - 00:6:47 = 8:57:00.. 8:57:00 is the extract time photographs of the unknown plane was taken.. Conclusion the unknown circling plane and photos are the same object.
Photos
https://photos.app.goo.gl/whutLZLgpEKtbxcO2
Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tYr3-vkyZ0
Matt Nelson <matt@911conspiracy.tv> has concluded the Radar Beacon 1422 is small aircraft
Beverly Ekert was her name and I have no reason to believe she was controlled opposition. But, I will watch Flight 3407. Many have been murdered for asking "Columbo"-like questions. Check out Minnesota's US Senator Paul Wellstone and NYCHA guy Barry Jennings....heck Demolition expert Danny Jowenko for that matter. Just because we don't have definitive answers to all of our important questions, it doesn't mean that the proven evidence we do have is automatically negated. Thanks marlbearl1, you may be more important to America than you think.
911TruthNOW I get that you want to find fault with the system and you probably distrust the government deeply with good cause.
But you have to admit, the absence of 7500 codes is certainly plausible. Both from the pilots POV and from ATC. It all happened so fast and controllers weren't prepared for an attack of such magnitude from multiple aircraft across multiple sectors.
No smoking gun there I'm afraid
It all happened so fast? Flight 11 started its right turn at NEADS HQ 8:14 A.M and flew until 8:46 passing targets 1. NEADS HQ and 2. Indian Point and other Air National Guard bases while on three radar scopes RIV, REM and GIB.. Most likely had an beacon assignment 14XX and 7500 hijack highlights across both FAA and NORAD radar scopes.. No smoking gun? I think not..
Smoking Guns 9 11 By Air Chapter 1 2017
http://911truthout.blogspot.com/2017/09/9-11-contracting-plane-videos.html
7500 code from the ATC at the ground level did happen on 9/11 but never became official dogma and became cover up 1 of 200 + and counting.... ATC did report the brighter then normal radar blip but no one knows ATC can light up a target on radar in 2017 or knows what that means..Flight 11 also flew directly at NEADS headquarters at Rome NY. The area was packed with air force and air national guard fighter bases with a beacon something like 1422 but and was lost and flying in the wrong direction until U-turn took it down the Hudson River and over Indian Point. Flight 11 could have taken out NEADS HQ, Indian Point but picked a 208 ft wide North Tower with 14,000 people inside at 8:46 A.M or around 127 per floorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftEM7sH5kuU . Also the phone numbers used on 9/11 904-555-0004 were never officially registered by the 555 administration therefore technically the 904-555-0004 phone calls were impossible both if used on the ground or at 40,000 feet in the air.. 7500 codes was forced on KAL 085 for a shoot down and Canadian gave the go ahead but someone didn't want to kill 200 people which a normal passenger load and not low numbers of 11, 175, 93 or 77.. No serials were found for any four plane on 9/11 and NTSB was never given the debris for an investigation.. Videos of Flight 175 has fake building inputs below the plane and fake inputs were put on radar for war game reasons naturally.. Hijack procedures changes were made in June 2001.. and whenever the FAA asked for help they turned down or delayed with no more question or radars RIV, REM and GIB didn't seem to help..
1. 7500 added to flight on 9/11 by force ATC audio video confession YT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlRGgJ3sCOg&t=15s
2. 904-555-0004 phone calls were impossible by 555 administration
3. NEADS September 11th: Real Decoy Planes added to battle field on 9/11
https://youtu.be/pNOTGTuIrto
4. Resolution of flight 175 was kept low by design.
https://youtu.be/yCYXlHUEG2Q
5. NEADS September 11th Real Decoy Planes
https://youtu.be/pNOTGTuIrto
9 11 We Have a DECOY Audio but no transcript
September 11th NEADS Cover up We Got a Decoy does not show up on transcripts
911-tapes We got a decoy
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/09/08/nyregion/911-tapes.html?_r=0
Edward Felt's 9-11 Ferris Wheel"As she listened to the tape later, Sandra Felt likened the noises to street-level sounds one heard when riding a Ferris wheel - many voices were audible, but none that could be picked out clearly"1. Betty Ong 904-555-00042. Amy Sweeney 904-555-00043. Barbara Olson 904-555-0004
4. Was Edward Felt phone calls 905-555-0004 as well? http://911truthout.blogspot.com/2015/04/dear-westmoreland-can-you-release.html
Thanks. 1. That first link of yours and one of the photos are found on my page 134 (3rd edition) listed as the source. Good work. 2. The phone calls are investigated here: http://letsrollforums.com//part-ii-fog-fiction-t32131.html -- to the conclusion that the planes were outfitted with new technology to specifically enable the high-altitude cell phone calls the hijack op required. See also http://letsrollforums.com//fog-fiction-and-flight-t28270p15.html 3. Not sure about the 7500 code yet. 4. Flight 11 Did Not Bark - Thanks! 5. "Why is debris a different state everytime its video taped or photographed" -- See my video "How FEMA Photoshopped 9/11" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsUSRrIXhXI 6. "Why can't employees tell the difference between flight debris?" Thanks! 7. "Why do photos of second plane on video look black and photo look normal?" The plane seems to go through a shadow then come out just before impact, when that photo was taken. If the videos/photos are fake then prove it with the 44 photos here: http://911conspiracy.tv/2nd_hit_photos.html -- and 61 videos that show the plane. I've seen some interesting arguments with those unable to match the exact size/shape, but do they account for lens distortion, wing deflection and perspective exactly? You must admit, IF THEY didn't use Flight 175 as the attack plane, then THEY did it so well you have no hope of proving it... "impossible speed" notwithstanding. IF so, then it was meant to be a mindfuck; and you have accepted that impossible challenge. Sorry! Where many see a paucity of evidence, I almost see an orgy of evidence -- the N6 from the tail number for fuck's sake. It's hilarious FEMA Photoshopped that obviously staged (not planted in my opinion) fuselage evidence -- ruining it for any official use! And they got away with it until now. I can't wait to see the next FEMA FOIA when it comes out. Hope it has Baker's missing photos of the fuselage.
"IF THEY didn't use Flight 175 as the attack plane, then THEY did it so well you have no hope of proving it"
First, I would make crazy videos, example freeze frame screenshot
https://photos.app.goo.gl/3veZeer2RBtDK8Ow2
Second, I would tell the NTSB they wil never get any evidence.
Well I would say the black boxes would have proved it and the serial numbers but the FBI has never going give up their plane debris to the NTSB investigation team never!! .. Even the black box data that was read by the NTSB was taken and all investigations were shut down.. The FBI said they "don't know were they are"?? .. Its a "Pull it" statement for 9/11 planes . Did you miss this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxfSvt-hSmM
More
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZUmXptNgwA
I can't see your photobucket links.. I don't think anyone can.. try Google photos..relink and redo the PDF..
http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/911conspiracytv/media/bWVkaWFJZDozNzkxNjk2NQ==/?ref= can you see this photo?
http://letsrollforums.com//part-ii-fog-fiction-t32131p2.html does NOT address that fact that all 555 numbers are all administered at one location and they told me over the phone that number was never activated.. Go figure..
You didn't respond to the different levels of speeds but also the "black out happens at DIFFERENT points of time.. I believe.. That's a large blow to your archive of video witnesses.. right? Take a look and run at .25 speed and take some freeze frames. I could be wrong.. But if I am right. Then what?
9 11 Contracting Plane Videos, does this mean they are all edited and witnesses should be used?
https://youtu.be/7v0S16b2CzE
You accepted Paul's request.
