Tuesday, September 10, 2019

9-11 Molten Evidence With Extreme Denier


NYPD Museum  3rd Floor Molten Rock with Guns and Molten Guns
More Molten Samples


9/11 FDNY formerly liquid iron found WTC molten steel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVfF9Vhh2jE&t=2s




This isn't melted steel. It's severely damaged steel.
He said it was stacking up from dripping from the ceiling and he still had to break it off. You can see its broken off at the bottom. Damaged steel looks similar to it original form. Melted means it has reformed and it has reformed.

That's not what melted means. It means it became a liquid.
dripping means it was a liquid falling and forming into a stalagmite made of core column material. . Listen to the video.
The steel was never molten

the point of the photo, hard evidence and the witness was the Box column were molten. The guy lives in NYC. Go talk to him.

Not molten.

He showed his molten North Tower Box Column floor stalagmite to the public Also "The museum hired specialists to perform forensic testing and analysis of two large composites and several smaller pieces that had broken off. ... Scientists determined that, at heat levels in excess of two thousand degrees Fahrenheit," The question now is how many time have people shown you Molten evidence so far? Thousands of people? https://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/15/nyregion/a-nation-challenged-the-site-below-rubble-a-tour-of-a-still-burning-hell.html



The museum hired specialists to perform forensic testing and analysis of two large composites and several smaller pieces that had broken off. ... Scientists determined that, at heat levels in excess of two thousand degrees Fahrenheit," ?


excess of two thousand degrees could mean a nuclear strike! 4,000 degrees was already reported by the FBI.

9-11 Engineer and Firefighter discusses Melting of steel from WTC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcXUmNxEsI0






Statements abound about the supposedly molten metal but no proof of large pools of it in the basement of the WTC. They aren't lying. They are mistaken.

Museums have them on display as molten rocks. They were tested and reports were made but you missed all of that.
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My dust is very similar to this sample. Not molten.

What sample? Frank Greening said "The Mn/Fe ratio for these particles is consistent with WTC structural steel." they were molten https://911truthout.blogspot.com/2013/11/911-molten-steel-debunked-think-again.html?q=VALLEBUONA


Sure the dust is largely steel, but it's not been previously melted.
Not only was spheres molten but iron continued to fill the air during DOD air sampling in the months after. https://911truthout.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-infamous-page-154-dust-inside-story.html


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Friday, September 6, 2019

Random Evidence Of an 9-11 Inside Job

[QUOTE=1%r;1600108553]yea real complex, my own eyes LIED to me :lolg:[/QUOTE]

What did the plane look like?

Eye Witness Second Plane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYUs9u1YwV0


islamists flew planes into the towers while employees used 555 ICS phone numbers?

"Terrorist Learn to fly" briefing 2001? Is that Osama Bin Laden face is right on the briefing but blacked out, why?

http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/defense/670.pdf
http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/defense/672.pdf
http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/defense/671.pdf

They didn't know nothing but sure had Anti-Usama bin Laden stamp really to go!



Whoops this is before 9/11 top secret stuff


Bombs inside the towers photos





Whoops this part does not belong on a 767?
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Monday, September 2, 2019

HTA arson was reported 9-11 National September 11 Memorial Museum but not to the police

[quote=Sifu-TZ;1600085124]4th post is 911 troofer spam. Hilarious. Shane’s right, of course.[/quote]
The posts are for investigators to start doing their jobs. One fire department actually started doing their job many others will follow.

The problem is so many people are just so stupid about so many things.

HTA arson, which is a crime, was reported 9/11 National September 11 Memorial Museum but the evidence was never handed over to the police.



A beacon is assigned to ALL track. 9/11 beacon 1422 was assigned and Last known Position beacon 3321 was assigned to flight 175.

Last known Position 1470 i.e Original Flight 175 on radar

UAL flight 175
08:46:12 Radar: RIV M3: 1470 Height (ft): 32000 Altitude (m): 9754
08:46:24 Radar: RIV M3: 3020 Height (ft): 32400 Altitude (m): 9876
08:47:12 Radar: RIV M3: 3321 Height (ft): 32400 Altitude (m): 9876

New York Area Fire Commissioner Christopher Gioia on Seeking Justice for Fallen 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VzIdMTaRn4&fbclid=IwAR3ONva9fBhZurPE1jCBV0WZmJ-jnoW1lk5rNI5DfAwGyc6xHcQdfTOSnl4Firefighters




Attachments area


Preview YouTube video New York Area Fire Commissioner Christopher Gioia on Seeking Justice for Fallen 9/11 Firefighters







New York Area Fire Commissioner Christopher Gioia on Seeking Justice for Fallen 9/11 Firefighters





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Monday, July 1, 2019

Did the 9/11 Commission Report even look at the World Trade Center

It looks like they blamed it all on magic jet fuel theory


That magic jet fuel attacked the command center and the public believed this crap.




World Trade Center Core Did Melt


Did the 9/11 Commission Report even look at the World Trade Center? If they did, which team was responsible?
The 9/11 Commission was a joint House investigation into the failings of our intelligence preparedness, the failings of our security, the failings of our emergency response, and to find out who financed and profited from the events of 9/11. This ad hoc committee of politicians and lawyers half of whom were Democrats and the half Republicans did not, could not conduct a forensic criminal investigation. We have the FBI for that.
The US Congressional Committee on Science held a hearing on March 6, 2002, called Learning from 9/11; Understanding the collapse of WTC. That hearing traces the investigations and collapses from September 11, 2001. It names all the agencies and individuals involved (FEMA, ASCE BPA-Team, NSF, and individual investigators), it documents the problems the investigation faced, from the evidence being destroyed by the recycling program, to FEMA requesting NIST take over the investigation. That mandate for NIST happened in August 2002 with the passing of the National Construction Safety Team act.
The final NIST report on the collapses of WTC1 and WTC2 was issued in October 2005, and the final report on the collapse of WTC7 was three years later in November 2008. Keep in mind that the 9/11 terrorist attacks, like all terrorist attacks (Oklahoma City Bombing for instance), are federal crimes. They are handled by the FBI and DOJ. Many people felt that the attacks on 9/11 felt more like an act of war. When US Congress passed and the President signed the Patriot Act and the AUMF, the week after 9/11, they essentially turned 9/11 from a crime into an act of war.
An act of war is handled by the military and the DOD. The response is NOT forensic investigations, indictments, trials, etc. The military acts on intelligence reports to overwhelm the enemy with military force. The FBI’s role was to supply the intelligence to the DOD. Any criminal or forensic investigation simultaneous to a military response is not possible. That is why there is very little forensic evidence (none was gathered) and only FEMA and NIST investigated the collapses of the towers.
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Friday, June 14, 2019

World Trade Center Stalagmite

 “can you identify a metal merely by looking at it? “
He labeled it “melted steel box beam from north tower” and you can see it is a stalagmite. Top part is under text and broken off part is on the bottom. You can see into the object. So that’ s what a World Trade Center stalagmite looks like!

Who said he was just looking at it? He lives with the material. That sample he lugs around is heavy. He said that he it was on the basement floor “stacking up”.


“ yet your evidence is one that merely refers to ‘metal’
It was not my evidence and I made no claims about what James Glanz said. It was just a reference to stalagmites and heat under the trade center were the most likely material was steel. Case in point was Scott Schrimpe stalagmite find which of course was a stalagmite of steel.

grotesque landscape of stalagmites formed by dripping metal

This was James Glanz evidence so why don’t you ask him what material he thought it was or who he was talking to. James Glanz (@jamesglanz) | Twitter https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000360665966
Dear James Glanz you wrote "A descent beneath the World Trade Center is a passage into a grotesque landscape of stalagmites formed by dripping metal" did you see this landscape or was or told to you by FDNY *Scott Schrimpe who continued to *talk about stalagmites coming from the core columns while under the trade center or other people?
“your claim is that there was molten steel” no those claims are from people who were there. Molten riven steel and stories of lava are from Les Robertson “Les Robertson Confirms Molten Metal in WTC Basement” and the NYPD museum and tests were done by the National September 11 Memorial & Museum: Home which stated greater then 2,000 degrees. FBI stated around 4,000 degrees audio mp3 statement. Gerry Fornino, FBI bomb technician, says that "heat was 3,000 - 4,000 degrees”.
http://www.sonicmemorial.org/public/freshkills/audio/forninomelting.mp3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjmHqES_lto





You skipped over this

"The museum hired specialists to perform forensic testing and analysis of two large composites and several smaller pieces that had broken off. ... Scientists determined that, at heat levels in excess of two thousand degrees Fahrenheit,"
This statement alone should be enough to open a new investigation and fits with molten steel core column video below and statements by FBI and everyone else you disagree with.  

“You are saying that there is no possible way that label could be incorrect, that every single part of (his story) it has been factually verified?”

That is right. It is verified molten steel core column because he’s showing this object to public in open environment free to public without anyone disagreeing with his story or disagreeing with the labeling or the material that he is displaying. Chances are 99.999% that he’s correct and you are wrong to question him and his story, and the object. You will never contact him and question anything directly because you know you are wrong. All you do type on a keyboard. If you have problem, go get the object and test it. 

‘AHA, molten steel! Clearly evidence of a conspiracy,? Nope wrong again! Evidence of molten steel means it was HTA arson cold case.

Evidence of molten Iron Manganese Alloy according to Frank Greening’s paper matches up to the alloy of the WTC structural steel and thus is evidence of High Temperature Arson crime and should be investigate by the FDNY!
I noticed that you have agreed with idea the weight to size radio can eliminate aluminium as the material Scott is showing to the public. The heavier the object is to its size is a factor in determining type of material. So you don’t need tests for weight, a scale will do. So you are wrong on extreme testing requirements.
“So the one piece of ‘melted steel’ that was tested turned out to not be melted at all.” Sisson, Richard D <sisson@wpi.edu said it was attacked by liquid slag which is a molten iron material.
Liquid Slag - an overview !
What do you think liquid slag is? Did you even listen to him? The evil female narrator said it didn’t melt.
Do you know the difference between a female and male voice? You are even more damaged then I assumed. What is wrong with you?
“Does Concrete Melt ?” The answer is Yes!! Does Concrete Melt ? review answers here. So you are wrong again!.
“you should not be able to see into them because there would not be voids.“ wrong again #3 I am not talking about voids? You can see into this object because it is broken off at the bottom, it’s like seeing the rings of of tree. The color shows is one material and that material is not the color of aluminium . No one has even seen a aluminium stalagmite? Can you show be that aluminium can create a stalagmite in the first place? Chances are no you can’t!
“ VW engine block which contains magnesium that has been placed on a fire” The engine block is not seen being placed on any fire. I don’t see any evidence of this in this video and you can’t verify those claims.
“how would you know that a firearm” The point was the steel was melted down. The handle of the gun could be another material. Other guns could have been half melted. NYPD also has melted guns on display. http://www.sonicmemorial.org/pub...
“Robertson doesn’t believe in any of the truther claims “ It was his claim not truthers. The Truthers just refer back to him.
“ 1) can you identify a molten metal merely by looking at it? “ YES In his case molten steel means it was discovered by workers and pointed out to him and the color should match up and seeing the liquid move should also match up to molten steel. So YES!
“So you are saying that there wasn’t molten steel? “ I didn’t not make a claim one way or the other. Changes are 99% is was the molten core columns like Scott Schrimpe, FDNY said it was. via its color, weight and location. No other material made up the bones of the World Trade Center. It is a process of elimination. Where would other materials have come from? Was tower made of aluminium? Is that your claim?
Professor Sisson was going to do follow up studies and his email says he failed.
Sisson, Richard D <sisson@wpi.edu>
Wed, Jul 13, 2016, 2:57 PM
to me
Sorry, we have no new information.

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Wednesday, June 12, 2019

The World Trade Center was a Giant Soup of Vaporized Materials

Brian Good
Brian Good
Original Author · Apr 12
Dan Plesse
Dan Plesse
Just now
 Huffington Post dust study found metal complexes (sub-micron chromium, aluminum/iron matrices) 

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/Sept11DustReport.pdf




Actually molten core columns are public and video with FDNY commenting that the steel was found molten are also public but that is not the main issue. Mr. Astaneh-Asl said the Steel Was Evaporated!!! missing ! Basically it was a giant soup  of vaporized materials making new chemicals on the fly i.e RJ Lee quote "Some metals, plastics and other materials were vaporized thus producing new chemicals that were deposited onto the surfaces of solid particulate matter, such as asbestos, quartz, and mineral wool. These dust and heat-processed constituents are not typically found associated with typical office building environments." Dr. Cahill also talked about new chemicals on 9/11 . Dust: The Inside Story of its Role in the September 11th Aftermath By Paul J. Lioy Page 154 "Some new chemicals were mentioned by Dr. Cahill such as fused iron spheres" Likely the fused iron spheres where from core columns as Frank Greening said "Furthermore, the m/fe ratio of the particles is consistent with WTC structural steel". the mn/fe sphericals were sometimes found inside glass sphericals via Mark Basile Chemical Engineer said in his report. Thus sphericals were created from core columns and during 9/11 and rust or iron oxide can't create the mn/fe sphericals.. Why do you avoid this evidence? Molten Core columns are even seen on youtube via FDNY.
9/11 FDNY formerly liquid iron found WTC molten steel

You sir have been debunked!


 
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Monday, June 10, 2019

The World Trade Center was a Giant Soup of Vaporized Materials



Actually molten core columns are public and video with FDNY commenting that the steel was found molten are also public but that is not the main issue. Mr. Astaneh-Asl said the Steel Was Evaporated!!! missing ! Basically it was a giant soup  of vaporized materials making new chemicals on the fly i.e RJ Lee quote "Some metals, plastics and other materials were vaporized thus producing new chemicals that were deposited onto the surfaces of solid particulate matter, such as asbestos, quartz, and mineral wool. These dust and heat-processed constituents are not typically found associated with typical office building environments." Dr. Cahill also talked about new chemicals on 9/11 . Dust: The Inside Story of its Role in the September 11th Aftermath By Paul J. Lioy Page 154 "Some new chemicals were mentioned by Dr. Cahill such as fused iron spheres" Likely the fused iron spheres where from core columns as Frank Greening said "Furthermore, the m/fe ratio of the particles is consistent with WTC structural steel". the mn/fe sphericals were sometimes found inside glass sphericals via Mark Basile Chemical Engineer said in his report. Thus sphericals were created from core columns and during 9/11 and rust or iron oxide can't create the mn/fe sphericals.. Why do you avoid this evidence? Molten Core columns are even seen on youtube via FDNY.
9/11 FDNY formerly liquid iron found WTC molten steel
You sir have been debunked!

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