Booted from "The Worldwide 9/11 Grass Roots Truth Movement"
Why? Asking advanced questions
i.e What was the Rumbling on 9/11? Before Impacts! Before Collapse!
1. Normal Explosions
2. Big Explosions
3. frequency oscillator (Tesla's oscillator http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla's_oscillator)
"Earthquake" claims[edit]
In 1935 at his annual birthday party/press meeting a 79 year old Tesla related a story where he claimed a version of his mechanical oscillator caused extreme vibrations in structures and even an earthquake in downtown New York City
What was the Rumbling on 9/11? Before Impacts! Before Collapse!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP3SlIPSOlk
9/11 Dr. Rousseau is an expert on measurement of acoustic waves
http://youtu.be/ZO7EBTAGA1M
Booted from "The Worldwide 9/11 Grass Roots Truth Movement"
Why? Asking advanced questions
i.e What was the Rumbling on 9/11? Before Impacts! Before Collapse!
1. Normal Explosions
2. Big Explosions
3. frequency oscillator (Tesla's oscillator http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla's_oscillator)
1. Normal Explosions
2. Big Explosions
3. frequency oscillator (Tesla's oscillator http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla's_oscillator)
"Earthquake" claims[edit]
In 1935 at his annual birthday party/press meeting a 79 year old Tesla related a story where he claimed a version of his mechanical oscillator caused extreme vibrations in structures and even an earthquake in downtown New York City
Photos of Giant World Trade Center Void 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSdeGreC6IM
Photos of World Trade 4, 5, 6 and WTC 7 NIST FOIA Release 7 Richard Rutkowsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfeyBbGW8wc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSdeGreC6IM
Photos of World Trade 4, 5, 6 and WTC 7 NIST FOIA Release 7 Richard Rutkowsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfeyBbGW8wc
- Caroline Fifi Hi Dan Plesse, we have a policy of not posting theories of DEW, nukes, holograms or no planes hitting the towers. Our goal is to keep the page full of the most basic facts and physics re: 9/11. We don't discourage anyone from investigating these theories but since our goal is to market the truth to newcomers, we want to stick to the basics. Thank you.
- Mike Serour Yes Kevin he is and has been for quite sometime now. In my opinion, this conversation that was posted spends more time cutting each other down instead of simply having a civil conversation and a civil disagreement. But I suppose swearing at each other and calling each other names is the new way to get your educated point across............smh
- Dan Plesse Mike Serour I never did any of things however all of those things were done to me and I do agree with you however the civil conversation with the Truth Movement rarely happens or the topic is avoided completely which you have just done. Michael Lurie was the guy who "spends more time cutting" me down.
I asked him about the rumbling and he said it was explosions which does not explain the S-waves which were not generated in other explosions at the tower in 1993.
Executive Summary: Ken Doc uses the official theory about the seismic singles i.e the cause was do to the building falling over, impacts etc. Even though he knows and provided links to the Rousseau paper yet still he thinks [nuclear] explosives are out of the question, until much later and he names RDX as the cause.. Then he said "Rousseau paper was [about] the explosions before collapse" which means Rousseau was not talking about the same seismic singles as LDEO or had little to do with LDEO report which is complete fraud. I also asked him about the missing epicenter data and he said "you are looking too much into things creating frauds along the way" i.e don't look too closely is EXACTLY what the criminals want you to do! Ken Doc is going EXACTLY that.
- Jason Strope I see. Thanks for clarifying that again. After reading both of those comments, I see what you're stating
- Michael W. Lurie I find folks to be objectionable who promote crap such as nukes or holograms or CGI imagery as explaining the crimes of 9/11. My skepticism is typically well-warranted. It comes with an expert and well developed sense of smell. Note Dan, nukes do not rumble. All demo was done with commercial and military-grade materials, none of which are particularly exotic.
- Michael W. Lurie Of course rumbling took place. That's what explosives do, or were you not aware of that? Nevermind, you don't need to answer....
- Dan Plesse Michael W. Lurie I don't think you understand the size of elephant. These rumbles were recorded as far away as Maine. Did you play the video or not?
The first World Trade explosives did not generate these S-Waves, so you can rule out whatever theory got that way. - Dan Plesse 9/11 Dr. Rousseau is an expert on measurement of acoustic waves said the S-waves could be an earthquake or an explosion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO7EBTAGA1M
23 hours ago
Photos of Giant World Trade Center Void 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSdeGreC6IM Photos of World Trade 4, 5, 6 and WTC 7 NIST FOIA Release 7 Richard Rutkowsk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfeyBbGW8wc Do you have this photo of the void?
www.youtube.com
14 hours ago
about an hour ago
Seismic spike and WTC debris removal / disposal was going to be placed out to sea. Also human car witness Ricki DeSantis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3g4SGTBJTw
all things to consider along with high rates of cancer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG552_a9tWo
www.youtube.com
Ricki Desantis does not suffer from radiation poison. You spin everything Dan. Are you an agent or just a useful idiot? Seriously.
Who set up the human car wash? For what reason? Why were they going too the remains of the world trade into the sea. Why does LDEO refuse to give out detail like the epicenter data? Why don't ask any of these questions?
Answer the above. Speculate? On what?
I have caught you spreading false information dozens and dozens of times. You fail to correct yourself. This puts you in the category of disinfo.
Like what , what are you talking about?
NEW Witness 2011 #1
"Then all the sudden I get hit with a blast of heat like I was being burnt in an oven — like a sun’s rays just hitting you " http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/09/his_job_was_to_keep_the_world.html
I corrected that video you asshole.
That was years ago .
Like what?
Why don't answer my questions?
Goinf around trying to prove NT with BS arguments.... now you are hopping on board the Nuke train. Dude, you are messed up.
What is with divide bullshit
I did, it ignited
What about this document.
No but who does ?
what is LLNL
omg you don't answer anything.
originally I was asking about that photo -
It was your basic iron and aluminum.
You don't answer because you don't know.
Your facts like what?
What kind of explosives do you think they used then?
What created the body parts map?
NT is to cut and weaken and epicenter data is between the towers .
You never even looked for the epicenter data not one day in you 9/11 life?
Is that correct?
NT and something else
I did answer? YES earthquakes say so.
remember those ?
What ?
Look at the photo you idiot .
Same thing
You are agreeing with official theory?
are you agreeing with the shills
you are total joke
I just did
you got to grow up
YES
Just so I understand you correctly.... you are trying to say that an Earthquake happend in NYC on 9/11? yes or no
Dr. Andre Rousseau says seismic activity was explosions
Yes witnesses said the ground was moving.
You see what you do Dan..... you take information, twist it around and come up with your own tehories.
no complete building fell you moron.
No Dr. Andre Rousseau says the earthquake was do to explosions.
earthquakes
what the fuck is wrong with you?
You seem so stupid to me now - agreeing with official shills
Body parts just has bodt parts
You sound like official story scum bag
1,000 of people are still missing.
what caused to rumbling Ken?
Answer one question.
stop saying dude.
what causes witness beyond that area
to talk and rumbling?
Do you know what epicenter information is?
No you idiot - rumbling happen BEFORE the building fell ,
So no I don't agree with that BS
Do you have the epicenter for the signals. ?
no the floating point numbers. for each epicenter point.
answer the question.
looking too far ?
you don't have anything do you?
rumbling were felt in NJ too.
SEISMIC DATA
Were Explosives the Source of the Seismic Signals Emitted from New York on September 11, 2001? http://www.journalof911studies.com/resources/RousseauVol34November2012.pdf "The seismic signals propagating from New York on September 11, 2001, recorded at Palisades (34 km) and published by the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University (LDEO), have here been subjected to a new critical study concerning their sources. The aim of this paper is to demonstrate that the nature of the waves, their velocities, frequencies, and magnitudes invalidate the official explanations which imply as sources the percussion of the twin towers by planes and the collapses of the three buildings, WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7." Seismic Evidence Implies Controlled Demolition on 9/11 http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/12/seismic-evidence-prove-controlled-demolition-on-911.html ---------- Seismic Waves Generated by Aircraft Impacts and Building Collapses at World Trade Center, New York City. http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/Eq/20010911_WTC/WTC_LDEO_KIM.pdf "Collapses of the two WTC towers generated large seismic waves, observed in five states and up to 428 km away. The North Tower collapse was the largest seismic source and had local magnitude ML 2.3. From this we infer that ground shaking of the WTC towers was not a major contributor to the collapse or damage to surrounding buildings, but unfortunately we also conclude that from the distance at which our own detections were made (the nearest station is 34 km away at Palisades, N.Y.) it is not possible to infer (with detail sufficient to meet the demands of civil engineers in an emergency situation) just what the near-in ground motions must have been." --------- 911 Eyewitness - Seismic data shows explosive peaks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDqIZZR_nn8 TOWERS: Seismic Evidence and Molten Steel http://www.serendipity.li/wot/bollyn2.htm Seismic Proof – 9/11 Was An Inside Job http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/oldsite/print.asp?ID=5496 Seismic Evidence http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/seismic.html
SOUND ANALYSIS
Project Truth (WTC) - Sip 2.8 (Part1) No Sound Claim (Eyewintesses) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW9U8t9c5lw Project Truth (WTC) - Sip 2.8 (Part2) No Sound Claim (Audio Comparisons) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3aKzAVZobs& "This means that the closer the proximity of each detonation the harder it becomes to distinguish one blast from another." NOTES: My point is that the reason why we don't hear loud distinct popping sounds is because the proximity of each detonation is so closely spread out that it sounds like a roaring sound moreso than a pop. I've also considered the possibility that the Towers were also fully furnished and would hide the blasts more. Whereas in other demo's, the buildings are fully gutted, windows removed, with no sound insulation to decrease the volume of each blast. -------- NRT Is this the world's longest demolition (Bridge) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ukut5HkQL8 (Listen for the quick short intervals) -------- The sound of the twin tower collapses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GpPdgAGwk& 911 Eyewitness - Sound analysis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy2RoMb9AAY& --------- 9/11 WTC Rare Video of First Plane Attack - WNYW TV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVEmAWaKoYQ --------- The sound of the twin tower collapses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GpPdgAGwk ----------- Sounds of explosions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A9X_8flGeM
http://www.journalof911studies.com/resources/RousseauVol34November2012.pdf /Rousseau is the guy I was just talking about
www.journalof911studies.com
You disagreed with Rousseau
he does not agree with your 500,000 moron ideas
that's not the issue - its a strawman from a moron
No one agree with you . You don't even read you own links i.e /Rousseau
so stupid. You sounds nuts with earthquakes
that's a strawman you idiot
the point is he believes in explosives
Not the point to idiot
Well yes
why 500,000 ton moron idea is the official theory
Rousseau agrees with me and not you YES or NO?
Read the first link again you moron.
and stop researching this topic. you clearly suck. Looking too closely - what a stupid gatekeeper shill.
That was the issue was it?
That was never the issue.
Why do you manufacture issues?
Who fucking does that?
"These values match those registered from an earthquake or seismic prospecting (see for
example Kim et al. 2001)." "What else but an explosion could be the origin for this seismic wave in the absence of an earthquake? A similar discrepancy exists in the data for the seismic wave and impact times for WTC2."
Rouseeau said explosives caused the ground movement
""What else but an explosion could be the origin for this seismic wave"
NOT you moron 500,000 moron concept
Let's look at that "strawman".... you dont think 500,000 tons of steel will create seismic data, yes or no?
YES NO Rouseeau agrees with me and not your moron idea.
dude stop saying dude
500,000 if it fell side ways you idiot
right
you seem stupid
stop you stupidness
Rouseeau said explosives caused the ground movement
spread out theory works against you
Uranium in the dust? What?
The concentration of Uranium is a key. This is slightly too high in the dust and much too high in the girder coatings. The activities for 2.7, 3.2, 4.7 and 7.57 are 33, 40, 58 and 93Bq/kg. The graph shows that there is too much U on the girder coatings. Normal levels of U are about 12, at most 40Bq/kg
what else could it be you idiot ?
its not you idiot theory of a building
A & C did tabulate things like Uranium in the dust, but made no effort to explain its presence, let alone that this, along with correlation between other elements, was a recipe for nuclear methods. Glaring omissions.
investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com
Idiot exit signs stupid
you got the chemicals all wrong
"Self-luminous EXIT signs containing the radioactive gas tritium are widely used in a variety of facilities across the United States, such as public and private office buildings, theaters, stores, schools, and churches - anywhere the public needs a rapid exit path. Those who possess tritium EXIT signs in Michigan are general licensees of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) and are subject to certain reporting and handling requirements, including proper disposal of unwanted or unused signs."
Topic was DU you idiot
gas tritium floats away in the air you idiot
right which means another source
The source was in building 6
building 6 had the test .
exit signs were vaporized and a non issue.
you can't find or look for the epicenter data.
500,000 ton moron Rousseau would have to agree you moron. Why don't you ask him
Did he rule out nukes? YES or NO
No he did not.
omg
what kind of explosives ?
can cause those spikes
omg really
he didn't not rule out nukes
btw
total tool
you are talking to yourself now manufactoring issues
looking like fool
a fool
first pitch a stupid idea about a 500,000 building that most items can't even be found.
Statement on 9/11: "From the beginning, my skepticism about the official explanation of the Twin Towers collapses turned to spurning it as soon as I saw the videos of the WTC7 collapse, which reminds one of controlled demolition. When I heard that seismic waves had been emitted at the time of the 9/11 events, I looked for reliable data and examined the signals recorded at the Palisades station. The apparently contradictory parameters relative to wave velocities and frequencies were easily explained if we consider that the seismic waves were created by strong explosives. Those explosives could not be triggered other than manually. It is therefore a criminal provocation."
Additional Information: Author of over 50 published papers on the relationships between the characteristics of progressive mechanical waves and geology. http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/mempages/Rousseau.html
first you pitch stupid idea no one agrees with but NIST and shills
and you claim you are NOT one of them?
dude you seem to know how to process information correctly.
www.journalof911studies.com
Where was Amy Goodman during 9/11?
Chat Conversation End
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Answer the question
where in NY
well you got that one.
You don't know 9/11 Ken. You have the same beliefs as the official theory retards
and those people go my shit list.
w/e dude. go watch my video and tell me if I support teh official story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H2wr0khnJA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H2wr0khnJA
you already said you agree
500,000 ton crap is right out NIST mouth
retard
it would if that's what happened.
Rousseau paper is whole thing. he focuses on explosions before collapse.
which can only nuclear demo.
no RDX has ever cause signals you idiot
not at that distance
not at that distance
If not RDX then What was it?
You are protecting a brand and not the truth. i,e disinfo crap
- Mike Baldwin So sad to see two good truth seekers argue over "unknowns". We should all focus on getting a REAL investigation, so we can find the truth and get justice.
- Jason Strope Why would you even post this? You did nothing but make yourself look like someone who has no interest in any facts and truths besides what you think you already know.
- Dan Plesse Mike Baldwin There can only be one good truth seeker in this document i.e official theory about the seismic singles is that they caused by the building falling over which is EXACTLY what Ken Doc said. Even though he knows about the Rousseau paper. Then he said "Rousseau paper was [about] the explosions before collapse" which means Rousseau was not talking about the same seismic singles as LDEO was or had little to do with LDEO report which is complete fraud. I
Ken Doc is not a Truth Seeker, not even close.
Jason Strope Look up "projection" and "exposed"
- Lawrence Fine Dan Plesse - take a deep breath - - - some people think they "own the truth". These are not simple equations and until there is an unimpeded REAL independent investigation by EXPERTS who will only study the evidence and be able to make distinctions between REAL eye witnesses and plants the jury is out and yes, there were measurable seismic events - - - some caused by explosives and some by the concussion of MASS falling to earth.
- Cal Amyotte Dan why are all your posts disinformation?
But you attempt to provoke frustration and smear people who stand for theories that are a result of facts and forensic evidence based on science.
Seems clear to me why you post what you do.
You are muddying the waters of truth and stand for 9/11 DISINFO not TRUTH. - Lawrence Fine the point of Rousseau paper was none of the concussion of MASS falling to earth or planes hitting the tower were the cause of signals.
Cal Amyotte I am promoting Rousseau paper.
- Dan Plesse Justin Rtcb Smith Do you have Rousseau's email address. I would like to know what those spikes were.
- Dan Plesse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVx_1Zmo7Ww
9/11 Professional Arson Investigation with Thermate - The King...youtube.com|By danp5648
- Justin Rtcb Smith Well the problem with this video when comparing it to 9/11 is that the towers were not completely on fire like this building was. If somehow the fire melted or vaporized the steal and made the towers fall, at some point it would of encountered resistance. All three towers fell close to the rate of free fall. So that is fairly easy to debunk.13 hrs · Like
- Dan Plesse Justin Rtcb Smith The point of the video was they were using thermite BEFORE 9/11 across the country! jeez!