At the corner of Church and Vesey, where Deborah Mardenfeld was hit..
"There are pictures of the second plane advancing on the south tower, its silver underbelly visible as it tilts toward its target. " (Flight 175 did NOT have a silver underbelly however many people reported this fact and assumed 2nd plane was flight 11, the flight 175 was reported as missing -- also 50% 9/11 planes were recorded cancelled 9/28/2005 and 01/14/2002 )..
i.e
"The engine portion came to rest at Church and Murray Streets; the landing gear on the roof of 45 Park Place."
CAPTAIN JAMES YAKIMOVICH
"WHERE WE REACHED CHURCH AND
VESEY WHEN THE SECOND PLANE IMPACTED"
" LOT OF CIVILIANS OBSERVING
THE FIRST FIRE BURNING AND WHEN THE SECOND IMPACT
HAPPENED EVERYONE WENT RUNNING LOT OF CIVILIAN
INJURIES THATS ALL REALLY SAW WAS CIVILIANS
INJURED OTHER AMBULANCES ON THE SCENE THAT WERE ABLE
TO RESPOND AND REMOVE THESE VICTIMS FEW ESU RIGS
RESPONDED ASSISTED COUPLE OF PD WITH THIS"
W. MERA
we're almost at Church and all of a sudden a massive explosion.
Unbelievable. The sound was incredible. I remember right
before that I saw a helicopter passing by.. maybe it was a helicopter, we were thinking a bomb, but we knew at this point something wasn't right.
So we ended up parking on the corner of Church and Vesey. We parked
the rig We were walking up Vesey and we saw parts of the plane on
the ground still burning. I've never been in an
earthquake, but it couldn't have been any worse than
that, any major earthquake.
Debbie Mardenfeld, 30 Story #1 No Plane Parts Yet "Falling debris had ripped the flesh from the back of the American Express administrator's torso, sheared her left heel and shattered her legs. "
When Debbie Mardenfeld was wheeled into New York University Downtown Hospital—minutes after a passerby, project manager Paul Dowe, 43, found her in the rubble of the World Trade Center— This sounds another person..
Debbie Mardenfeld, 30 Story #2 Blasted!
The day after the blast, he says, Mardenfeld grabbed a tablet and wrote, "So doc, my butt is smaller?" Says Ginsberg: "She has the attitude to get through this."
"Doctors warn that Mardenfeld still faces the danger of infection in coming weeks. But if she survives, with luck she will be able to walk again—and dance at her wedding to Greg St. John next year. Dr. Gerald Ginsberg, NYU Downtown's director of plastic surgery, is optimistic. The day after the blast, he says, Mardenfeld grabbed a tablet and wrote, "So doc, my butt is smaller?" Says Ginsberg: "She has the attitude to get through this."
Debbie Mardenfeld, 30 Story #3 There was a large tire next to her on Vesey Street?
WORLD TRADE CENTER TASK FORCE INTERVIEWEMT ORLANDO MARTINEZ
Interview Date: November 1, 2001
Transcribed by Elisabeth F. Nason
Once the second plane hit, the
shrapnel from either the plane or the building started
hitting the top of the bus and the area around us.
Anybody who was near the ambulance ran inside the
ambulance and ducked for cover.
"A. Oh, yes. Once we started taking off, I guess
30 feet in front of us, there was a lady on the ground
by the curb and she was just waving her arms. That's
all she could wave. Her legs were crushed. Apparently
she got hit by part of the landing gear, one of the
tires of the airplane. There was a large tire next to
her."
"forward down Vesey Street towards Beekman Hospital"
Stairwell B
Tina Hansen, 41
Two men team up to carry a woman in a wheelchair to safety
Tina Hansen is quick and nimble in her wheelchair; diagnosed with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis at age 3, she has been using one for most of her life. But when the first plane hit the World Trade Center, Hansen, a marketing supervisor at the Port Authority of NY and NJ, was immobilized by the impossible task of descending 68 flights of stairs. Although she had a special lightweight chair designed for just such a scenario (it had been given to her after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing), it would be of little use without a couple of strong-armed carriers. Says Hansen: "I didn't know how I was going to get out." http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20135405,00.html
The most important issue right now is getting a precise time element to rule out the north tower collapse. If we can rule out the North Tower collapse excuse we can put another nail in the official account. Can you look around? Research this? Thanks
WAS Michael Riconosciuto's a-neutronic bomb used on 9/11?
"Riconosciuto's talents were much in demand. He had created the a-neutronic bomb (or "Electro-Hydrodynamic Gaseous Fuel Device"), which sank the ground level of the Nevada test site by 30 feet when a prototype was tested. Samuel Cohen, the inventor of the neutron bomb, said of Riconosciuto: "I've spoken to Michael Riconosciuto (the inventor of the a-neutronic bomb) and he's an extraordinarily bright guy. I also have a hunch, which I can't prove, that they both (Riconosciuto and Lavos, his partner) indirectly work for the CIA."
Riconosciuto's bomb made suitcase nukes obsolete, because it achieved near-atomic explosive yields, but could be more easily minaturized. You could have a suitcase a-neutronic bomb, or a briefcase a-neutronic bomb, or simply a lady's purse a-neutronic bomb. Or just pull out your wallet for identification and... The Meridian Arms Corporation, as well as the Universities of California and Chicago owned a piece of the technology."http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/bin_laden_osman.html
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I hope Antonio can pinpoint the exact time of all these events (power outages, seismology) on 9/11. Other possible time stamps can be found using text messages via pagers. remember those ? haha
https://911.wikileaks.org/files/index.html
I tried the USGS and their database which should contain the information. Emails have not been successful.
insider reports look grim and point to an unthinkable cause.
"It is not possible to infer (with detail sufficient to meet the demands of civil engineers in an emergency situation) just what the near-in ground motions must have been." Won-Young Kim
Collapses of the two WTC towers generated large seismic waves, observed in five states and up to 428 km away The north tower collapse was the largest seismic source and had local magnitude ML 2.3. From this, we infer that ground shaking of the WTC towers was not a major contributor to the collapse or damage to surrounding buildings.
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2001EOSTr..82..565K
Am I reading this right? If the towers were the caused the shaking then how can the shaking be ruled out as the cause?
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/01EO00330/pdf
The title of that report "Nuclear explosion seismology, 7260 Theory and modeling" is not open to the public and I am sure if you have any swing with those folks.
The databases would have time stamps, location, depth and strength as columns of data and recordings would fill sheets of data as many seismic waves were recording but on seismic grams. which are public. The digital recordings have NOT been located.
Also The Statue of Liberty was closed and yet it opened at 8:30 am before events of 9/11 started. Email with people also has not returned with good results.
The O.E.M was locked early with officers attending a committee meeting at City Hall about Jackie Robinson Park which is not the OEM's responsibility. They left the committee meeting went directly to the North Tower and on to another location avoiding their office at the 23 floor of WTC 7. James Farmer, senior counsel to the 9/11 Commission was unable to trace the movements of Richard J.Sheier who died in 2010.
Two groups of people attempted to enter the 23 floor became trapped after an explosion had blown the stairwell away at the 6th floor. They were filmed yelling from 8th floor for help. They were told to get out of that building.
The O.E.M was locked early with officers attending a committee meeting at City Hall about Jackie Robinson Park which is not the OEM's responsibility. They left the committee meeting went directly to the North Tower and on to another location avoiding their office at the 23 floor of WTC 7. James Farmer, senior counsel to the 9/11 Commission was unable to trace the movements of Richard J.Sheier who died in 2010.
Two groups of people attempted to enter the 23 floor became trapped after an explosion had blown the stairwell away at the 6th floor. They were filmed yelling from 8th floor for help. They were told to get out of that building.
waOn Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Gerald Ginsberg <geg3001@med.cornell.edu> wrote:
Dan,
Most of the hospital adminiatrators from that time have moved on. The hospital was taken over by Cornell two years ago and that cleaned the slate. There isn't even a communications department left who might know some of this stuff. However, Anthony Ercolano is a very nice man who may still work there in administration and he may point you in the right direction.
Dr. G.
From: Dan Plesse [dan.plesse@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 5:59 PM
To: Gerald Ginsberg
Subject: Re: Dear Gerald Ginsberg I have a small 9/11 question aboutThanks for the quick reply. I asked Con Edison also but I wonder if a Hospital Administer
would be a better source however I can't find a single email address.
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Gerald Ginsberg <geg3001@med.cornell.edu> wrote:
Sorry, Sir,
I have no idea of those times at present.
Dr. G.
From: Dan Plesse [dan.plesse@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 4:11 PM
To: Gerald Ginsberg
Subject: Dear Gerald Ginsberg I have a small 9/11 question aboutDear Gerald Ginsberg,
I have a small 9/11 question about the earthquake you reported and I was hoping you could help with the timing issue.
9::03 a.m impact Flight 175
?:?? Ms. Mardenfeld transported to NYU
?:?? Ms. Mardenfeld operation started
?:?? NYU Downtown Hospital Emergency Room Lost Power.
?:?? about hour later during Ms. Mardenfeld operation an Earthquake occurred.
The world has assumed it was the North Tower I was hoping you could help unset this commonly held belief using your memory and records of some kind.
Also was the quake felt before or after the power issue or much later.
The seismic record for BRNJ shows a very large spike btw.
Thanks for your help.
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9::03 a.m impact Flight 175
?:?? Ms. Mardenfeld transported to NYU
?:?? Ms. Mardenfeld operation started
10:28 a.m the North Tower collapsed
?:?? NYU Downtown Hospital Emergency Room Lost Power.
?:?? hour later during Ms. Mardenfeld operation an Earthquake
The burns were caused by something else and not fuel and 'they' are the doctors, first responders etc did not smell fuel. The game is to connect everything to normal things. Burns were not connected to Fuel and falling buildings did not cause the earthquake during Ms. Mardenfeld operations after hours have passed. The burns were at the highest degree. Ms. Mardenfeld was over by WTC 7 and was reported to be burned. Most likely blown up by a blast.
When Did NYU Downtown Hospital Emergency Room Lose Power on 9/11? I need a time stamp. Everyone assumes is has to be the North Tower. What else could it be? The doctors were operating Ms. Mardenfeld who was awarded roughly 8.6 million by the federal September 11 Victim Compensation Fund for about an hour. It seems at little late in the day to blame it on the North Tower.
http://youtu.be/4-WUfrnPh2M
Published on Jan 3, 2015
More 9/11 earthquake witnesses. Hospital lost power too.When Did NYU Downtown Hospital Emergency Room Lose Power on 9/11?
The doctors were operating Ms. Mardenfeld who was awarded roughly 8.6 million by the federal September 11 Victim Compensation Fund for about an hour. It seems at little late in the day to blame it on the North Tower.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/04/nyr...
New York Presbyterian/ Lower Manhattan Hospital location
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.71026...
9/11 Emergency Room Documentary
http://youtu.be/hRw8HkwwLVw?t=32m41s
Code Yellow: Hospital at Ground Zero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjJsk...
NYU Downtown Hospital Emergency Room earthquake
NYU Hospital came down in police cars to help. During the day, the hospital lost power, water and phones. They did have a back-up generator so they could retain electricity.
http://www.911families.org/wp-content...
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