Thursday, February 26, 2015

The 9-11 shaking was so bad some people actually think they were blown up

Jiri Boudnik - The Towers

the fascinating case of EMT Patricia Ondrovic.
Felipe David working for Aramark Corp. tending vending machines in a basement of the North Tower recalled, “That day I was in the basement in sub-level 1 sometime after 8:30am. Everything happened so fast, everything moved so fast. The building started shaking after I heard the explosion below; dust was flying everywhere and all of a sudden it got...Skin dripping off the body was mentioned by several 9/11 victims. Gamma ray radiation can cause a person to just feel heat, then pain and then the skin will be damaged. The skin may be vaporized, charred or left hanging."

Jim Marrs while discussion Felipe David, WTC 1.

3 retired firefighters who helped at Ground Zero die on same day

http://nypost.com/2014/09/25/3-retired-firefighters-who-helped-at-ground-zero-die-on-same-day/

911revisited
Things the "thrown to the floor" - "walls smashed people in the face". That's when I got blown.

9/11 Oral History " IT FELT LIKE YOU WERE IN SUBWAY CAR STANDING UP AND THE SUBWAY CAR WAS MAKING TURN AND YOU WERE GETTING SHIFTED BACK AND FORTH THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT FELT"

"The ~~impact~~ jolted him from his desk chair and threw him into the floor"
Church Street & Murray Street
http://911truthout.blogspot.com/2015/02/review-of-battle-for-ground-zero-plane.html

No Plane Witnesses
http://www.noplane.info/p/no-plane-testimonianze.html

Eileen Coles
http://www.brisingamen-consulting.com/support.html

Eileen Coles Ok here's my story. I worked for Sun Microsystems on the 25th and 26th floors of 2 WTC. When I got into the area the first plane had supposedly already hit, but obviously nobody in the train knew that yet. I was taking a downtown 2 express and was going to change at Park Place for the 1 local to Cortlandt, which was the main WTC stop. At Park Place they stopped the train, didn't tell anyone why, just said that there was no service south of Park Place.

Since it was only a few blocks walk to the complex I figured I'd just walk. As we exited the train some lady came running down the stairs saying, "They're blowing up the city! Everyone get out of the city!" We figured she was just a nut. As I came upstairs it was chaos. A cop would not let me into the complex. (Does that mean she walked south from Park Place to the WTC and then north to Foley Park?) Lots of first responders, lights, sirens. I walked north to Foley Square and that is where I saw the first hole in the building.

Now, Foley Square (aka Federal Plaza) is only about a mile and a quarter or so northeast of Ground Zero. From there I should have heard the second plane hit the south tower. I heard no such thing. At no time did I ever see or hear a plane hit Tower 2. What I *did* hear, and feel, was a rumble under my feet like an old redbird subway train (they made a hell of a lot more noise than the modern trains) and I was like "WTF?" because as far as anyone knew there was no subway in that area. (Later we found out that there were tracks and a stop there that hadn't been used in 35 years, but I digress.) Immediately after I heard and felt this rumbling, maybe about 10 seconds later, the south tower collapsed.

I then began the long walk up to midtown. No transportation or communication was available, so I figured I would go back to a site I'd been stationed at by Sun, Morgan Stanley (47th and Broadway), and use my hopefully still active access badge to get upstairs and let my family and friends know I was still alive. It was a long, long walk. I was outdoors from about 9am to 3:30pm and at no time did I see or hear any scrambled jets.Having worked in the buildings, I knew that they were not very wide. One day I started wondering why none of the pictures or videos of the entry holes had a plane or even a part of a plane visible in the impact zone. I started wondering how big a 767 was compared to the building itself. So I did a to-scale measurement and found out that in the best case scenario, where the plane would be all the way inside the building evenly and not come out the other side, the distance between the wingtips, nose and tail evened out at about 10 feet. That looks something like this. With a distance of only 10 feet, we should be able to see part of the plane in the holes, and they are just not there.

Worst case scenario, where the plane moves further through the elevator cores (I was in those elevators and they were Not Nothin' to deal with - the plane would have gotten well and truly tangled up in a whole lot of very solid steel) but still does not come out the other side of the building. The distance between the tail and the edge of the building doubles, but we STILL should be able to see some part of the wreckage in the hole, and it's simply not there.

The 1970s redbird subway cars made a very distinct sound, to include the occasional screeching of wheels (which I also heard this time) as they went around curves. What I think happened there is they were moving the gold out of the Federal Reserve vaults below the towers.

http://youtu.be/xy5-wYNRxF8Eileen Coles I walked up to Morgan Stanley, got on the phone and internet from there, told my peeps I was still alive, and then walked back down to Penn Station. The Long Island Railroad was just shoving people onto trains and getting them out as fast as possible. There was no schedule, they would just fill up a train and move it out. I think I got home around a little after 5pm.Eileen Coles The part of the subway that I heard and felt a train going through is written about here.

http://untappedcities.com/2013/08/13/7-nyc-abandoned-subway-stations-city-hall-18th-street-worth-myrtle/

Eileen Coles It wasn't really a "shake" Ron. It felt like a subway train going under my feet. It lasted for about 10 seconds and then the south tower collapsed. I didn't hear or see any explosions.Eileen Coles I saw the hole from the first hit while I was in Foley Square.

I neither heard nor saw a plane hit the second tower while I was in Foley Square.

A woman came running down into the Park Place station yelling that people should get out of the city, "They're blowing up the city".

Two guys came into Foley Square covered with grey dust, one guy's hair was on fire and he put it out in the fountain. They were the ones who said a second plane hit the other tower and that it was a terrorist attack.

As an SSE at Sun with clients in the building, I also distinctly remember getting the memo the Thursday before informing us of the sitewide powerdown that weekend, and telling us to be prepared to support customers if they had trouble bringing their systems back up.

Make of those two items what you will...

A more detailed testimony of what happened to me that day can be found here:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/09/11/594798/-I-couldn-t-find-my-keys

Daniel M. Plesse Eileen Coles "They're blowing up the city! Get out! Run!" reminds me of

Blowing up the building - go home - go home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsYD9-gx-AU...

Eileen Coles when you have some time Check out the rumbling sounds I discovered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOhVucl_QUQ

Foley Square

Daniel M. Plesse Eileen Coles " I ascended the steps promptly at 9am. Chaos. "
If you ascending at around and the second plane was around 9:03. Do you remember where you were at 9:03. I don't think you made it to the park in three minutes.

Eileen Coles Daniel M. Plesse it really wasn't that far of a walk. I was either in the park, or in transit to the park. You saw the map. I heard bupkus, and I was not that far away.

Daniel M. Plesse Eileen Coles Which streets did you take. From Vesey St, N its 11 minutes. It not far but not 2-3 minutes close either. 51 Park got hit with stuff. Did you hear or see the plane debris plane parts etc

" part of the plane's landing gear and fuselage came out the north side of the tower and crashed through the roof and two of the floors of 45–47 Park Place, between West Broadway and Church Street, (600 feet (180 meters)) north of the former World Trade Center.

I believe you were north-ish.

only casting numbers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOW_ZhboBQk

I was asking her about time of impact 9:03 and the unlikeliness of making it to Foley Square in time to turn around and witness the second pact. She actually heard about the second plane through other people..

"I was either in the park, or in transit to the park. ".

"I walked north to Foley Square, which is where I first saw the triangular, smoking hole in tower 1."
" They said they'd come down from the first tower and that a second plane had hit the second tower."

Then I asked her about being possibility of being showered with plane debris.

The Newburgh Sting Fake Terror USA

2014 ‧ Documentary ‧ 1h 27m
7.7/10·IMDb
Following an FBI sting operation, four Muslim men from Newburgh, N.Y., face charges of terrorism.
Release date: April 20, 2014 (USA)
Directors: David Heilbroner, Kate Davis
Screenplay: David Heilbroner
Producer: David Heilbroner
Cinematography: Kate Davis
Executive producers: David Heilbroner, Kate Davis

CNN 9-11 transcripts

"The airplane just came in on itself, you heard the scream of the plane, then a crack crack crack, boom boom boom and the plane just disappeared, you didn't see the plane any more, and then you saw the blow-out from the other side."

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

"UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... the actual airplane hitting the building. It was surreal. As we looked at it we thought it was something out of a movie. It just didn't seem. The airplane just came in at the tilt, we heard the scream of the plane, then a crack, crack, crack, boom, boom, boom, and the plane just disappeared, you didn't see the plane anymore, and then you saw the blowout from the other side. "

http://premium.asia.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.48.html

Start
Aired September 11, 2001 - 14:34 ET
http://premium.asia.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.41.html

Minute 24:10

Jeffrey Beatty is the president of Total Security.US, the only man to have served with the Delta Force, the FBI, and the CIA.

He's a counter terrorism expert who has done work on the first World Trade Center attack

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.69.html

Skip past the all flashes coming from WTC 7
"are heart is with American". Answers are all edited out. CNN Transcripts has
his answers.

"an Arab journalist based in London is quoted today to the "Associated Press" as saying that followers of Osama Bin Laden warned three weeks ago they were going to carry out this sort of an attack. "
http://premium.asia.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.41.html

Aired September 11, 2001 - 08:48 ET
http://premium.asia.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.01.html

"se" EVENT/SPECIAL

A Number Of Men Arrested With Explosives On Jersey Turnpike

SHIMON PERES, ISRAELI FOREIGN MINISTER: Good evening. Thank you.

BROWN: Before, sir, we get to any of the specific questions, let me just ask you first, if I may, for a reaction to what has taken place here.

PERES: Our heart is with America, and our heart is with the thousands of families that have lost their children, their brothers, mothers. For Israel it is a day of mourning. We announced that tomorrow the whole nation will be mourning.

And I am sure that as bitter and painful the event is, the only one that can save humanity from this terrible danger is the United States of America. It was not attack only upon America, but an attack upon civilization, an attempt to introduce the wolves of jungle in our life, not to permit people to fly freely, to walk safely, to be assured at the places they live.

It is like a declaration of war, or an introduction of a terrible arm, and we have draw all the conclusions fully, uncompromisingly and right away.

BROWN: Sir, you have been a soldier, a leader of a country. You have been privy to some of the most detailed intelligence reports there are out there. Are you surprised by the sophistication that must have been at play to carry out these attacks?

PERES: It's an solid indication of the most evil kind. Only evil people can arrive to such a sophistication. And the measures must be radical as the evil itself.

I think what should be done is to identify every country that hosts or supports terror and declare those countries as terrorist countries. I think there must be call to all religious leaders, Christian, Muslim, Jewish, to condemn fully without an excuse all the suicidal vandals, suicidal person. We know there to kill others to kill themselves. It's against the basis of our lives, it's against the gospels of every believer.

And then again, we have to organizations ourselves globally because we are going over from a world of enemies, where you have had armies to face them, to a world of global dangers that we don't have neither a (UNINTELLIGIBLE) nor an army to stop. We have to we get ourselves organized properly, and fully, and immediately.

BROWN: Mr. Foreign Minister, I hope you will answer this, let me ask it anyway. Did the government of Israel have any intelligence prior, any indications prior, that something like this might happen?

PERES: Not specifically. We have had warnings, and there are all the time warnings. But we know, and all of us are aware of some of the address from where terror can origin.

But anyway, I don't have any specific information, and I wouldn't try to blame anybody without full knowledge.

BROWN: I understand that. And let me then just for the record ask the logical follow up, which is: Since the attacks themselves, has Israeli intelligence picked up any information that suggests who might be involved in this?

PERES: Any information we shall have, we shall hand over immediately to our American friends. And we also send right now in our plane with our rescue team, which is already on the way, whatever we shall be able to do or can do, in order to be of help. We shall do it full heatedly, without any reservations.

Commitment to say that today each of us feels American, like an American, with all the seriousness, all the pains, and all the determination.

BROWN: Sir, do you have any doubt in your mind that the root of this attack on the United States today, the root of it took place in the Middle East, that the events in the Middle East, the organizations in the Middle East, do you believe that to be the case?

PERES: I think we have to bring an end to conflict in the Middle East, but you know there were already acts of terrors in the United States disconnected from the Middle East, and there are many other places the same story.

We have to put an end to terror, because it is a danger to every person and every country, no matter where it is. So the reasons are important, but the attraction to use terror in order to kill, in order to threaten is existing everywhere. It is not connected to specific case or specific place.

BROWN: Sir, thank you. Shimon Peres, the Israeli foreign minister, a long time Israeli leader in any number of governments, joining us from Jerusalem tonight where it is a little bit after 11:00, about 10 minutes after 11:00.

Thank you, sir, for joining us.

Side Note

Ziad Jarrah questioned in the United Arab Emirates in January 2001 at the request of the CIA.
UAE government officials repeated to CNN that Jarrah was questioned at the request of the United States.

One of the September 11 hijackers was stopped and questioned in the United Arab Emirates in January 2001

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/01/cia.hijacker/index.html

Hijacker In The Family - Lebanon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE4s_D9BeA8

" CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the United Arab Emirates in May saying that a group or bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/

CNN Breaking News 4:00 to 5:30 pm Flashes WTC 7 features

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLRVlKVnZScGtxZmM/view?usp=sharing

Wednesday, February 25, 2015

NOT Flight 11 AA N334AA Not a White plane

N334AA American Airlines Boeing 767-200 - cn 22332 / ln 169

Reg

Aircraft Type *

Airline

Engines*

Config*

Delivered

Remark

N334AA Boeing 767-200 American Airlines 2x CF6-80 (hidden) 13. Apr 1987 Crashed 11. Sep 2001 at BOS into the World Trade Center, having been hijacked by terrorists (flying BOS-LAX)... Read more at Aviation-Safety.net

Reg	Aircraft Type *	Airline	Engines*	Config*	Delivered	Remark
N334AA	Boeing 767-200	American Airlines	2x CF6-80	(hidden)	13. Apr 1987	Crashed 11. Sep 2001 at BOS into the World Trade Center, having been hijacked by terrorists (flying BOS-LAX)... Read more at Aviation-Safety.net

Airframe Details
Construction Number (MSN)	22332
Line Number	169
Aircraft Type *	Boeing 767-200
First Flight *	Apr 1987
Age	14.4 Years
Airframe Status	Written Off

Not White

Red and White Plane

American Eagle Embraer EMB-145

Within U.S. Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), Title 14, Part 45, it is indicated that all U.S. commercial civil aircraft are required to contain numerous components bearing unique serial number data "secured in such a manner that it will not likely be ... lost or destroyed in an accident"as it stands, there seem to be no source records upon which the NTSB can base the views of the aircraft IDs.
American eagle NOT AA N334AA serial number 22332

She Was On The 92nd Floor - Mr Beller's Neighborhood

This object is white

"people started paying attention and watched in mounting horror as the American eagle plane flew close enough to their building for them to read the letters on the side of the plane. Suddenly, at the last moment, it veered and smashed into the tower next to them"
https://sites.google.com/site/911stories/insidethesouthtower:eyewitnessaccounts

N334AA American Airlines Boeing 767-223(ER)

NOT Flight 11 - 9/11 Hoax Exposed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pia6bbv97_Q

9-11 First Plane Witness Red and White Plane NOT Flight 11

Engines On fuselage Means American Eagle NOT American Airline Flight 11

http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=023214

Not White

White Verses Grey

Eric Shawn First Plane looked VERY WHITE NOT Flight 11

Jeffrey Lee You've been obsessed with this "white plane" kookiness for years, now, Dan. Pure bunk.

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Daniel M. Plesse I showed you that your theory is wrong and your paint schemes are always the updated version and not 2001.

The vertical stabilizer of American Airlines Flight 587 is lifted out of Jamaica Bay. (Photo by NTSB) shows its not white. Clearly Case closed

So you attack without evidence. Nice job.

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Daniel M. Plesse I will use circles to point out what white looks like.

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Daniel M. Plesse Los Angeles - International (LAX / KLAX), United States
2000
http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show...

A single Photo Aircraft Dumpster Diving After September 11th White Plane

Daniel M. Plesse Jeffrey Lee Your our witness list says "American eagle plane "

"people started paying attention and watched in mounting horror as the American eagle plane flew close enough to their building for them to read the letters on the side of the plane. Suddenly, at the last moment, it veered and smashed into the tower next to them"
https://sites.google.com/.../insidethesouthtower...

insidethesouthtower:eyewitnessaccounts - 911stories

sites.google.com

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N334AA American Airlines Boeing 767-223(ER)

N334AA American Airlines Boeing 767-223(ER) taken...

planespotters.net

Daniel M. Plesse N334AA 22332 Boeing 767-200 American Airlines 13. Apr 1987 Written Off
http://www.planespotters.net/search.php?q=N334AA

Norma Rae c/n means serial number I think 22332 Now we can look to see if they actually found part numbers that match I think.

Site Search 'N334AA' - Planespotters.net Just Aviation

Is Pavel Hlavel's impact point too low?

Jeffrey Lee Yeah, right, because someone saying "American Eagle" instead of "American Airlines" and the color temperature of a photo negates the tons of actual evidence in this case. Are you guys just pulling our legs, or do you actually believe this nonsense?

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Cataloging the crimes of 9/11