South tower collapse seem to have been initiation by a missile by Kenny Escoffry and George Kozlowski
Kenny ESCOFFRY 9/11 Oral history
"About an hour later me and George
decided let's go out, because we were having
difficulty breathing because we didn't have a
mask. On the way out between tower one and six,
we heard something like an incoming missile, and
we started to run. That's when the second tower
came down. "
Missile Sound before North Tower Falls according to Firefighter George KOZLOWSKI 9/11 Oral History
George KOZLOWSKI
"HE SAID WE BETTER GET OUR ASSES OUT OF HERE THIS DOESN'T LOOK GOOD AT ALL AS WE WERE WALKING WE
HEARD WE THOUGHT IT WAS ANOTHER PLANE COMING IT
WAS LIKE BIG SHHHHH THOUSAND TIMES LOUDER THAN
THAT IT SOUNDED LIKE MISSILE COMING AND WE JUST
STARTED BOOKING WE TOOK OFF LIKE BATS OUT OF HELL
WE MADE IT AROUND THE CORNER AND THATS WHEN
THE SHIT HIT TH FAN
RIGHT THEN AND THERE
THAT LOUD AND THEN BA BOOM JUST IT WAS LIKE AN
EARTHQUAKE OR WHATEVER GIANT GIANT EXPLOSION"
Memo from Dennis P Stafford to Edward Gutch dated March 2002 Subject:Response to terrorist attack
"Upon our arrival at the WTC, Barclay street ramp, the undersigned made contact with Detective D Rogers, who reported that initial information was being received from witnesses in the vicinity of West Broadway and Barclay Streets that a missile may have been fired from the American Express building into tower 1" http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/935964/1/
T. ORLANDO this the time the building was shaking. It was hit with something. At that time we thought it was another missile attack,
ASHBY SO THOUGHT SOMEBODY LAUNCHED MISSILE FROM THE EAST RIVER OR OVER THE HUDSON TO KNOCK IT DOWN MEAN THATS WHAT IM THINKING IF THEY ARE IF THEY ARE STILL OUT THERE TO LAUNCH ANOTHER MISSILE GOT TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE BECAUSE WE WERE IN WAR ZONE RIGHT EXACTLY
A. BARTOLOMEY One person actually said that it was like a military style plane that actually shot missiles into the building.
J. ROTHMUND sounded like another airplane, or a missile. It was like a slow shake. The whole ground just vibrated and shook. We just told everybody to run, run into a building, let's go, run, run, run.
B. DIXON At that point I assumed you can't have two -- it can't be an accident to have two planes. So, I don't know if there's planes or missiles or what but something was hitting this thing.
MCCAHEY HE EVEN THOUGHT THAT THE SECOND ONE WAS MISSILE HE SAID IT LOOKED LIKE ROCKET FROM THERE BUT HE FEARED IF IT WAS TERRORIST ATTACK JUST TO LET ME KNOW
BOHACK 30 FLOORS OF FIRE IN THE OTHER BUILDING IM THINKING THIS GUY IS HAVING CHEST PAINS HAVE REPORT OF MISSILE ATTACK OR OTHER TERRORIST ATTACK 30TH FLOOR THERES FIRE HERE 10TH FLOOR THERES FIRE HERE MISSILES COMING HEART ATTACKS THIS IS RIDICULOUS WERE OUT HERE
Daniel M. PlesseIf the South Tower is just fell down then what was all the "Strong burst of wind" and "strong suction of wind", dust and debris before this. Why did the emergency lights go out? Also Kenny's missile then "it must have been the towers" seems strange since George and Kenny are both experiencing 9/11 together. Kenny gets knocked out cold by something Kenny misses the ground moving around, the explosion sound and cars blowing up, yet he wakes up just in time.
Kenny North Tower Emergency Lights are Out
A Hero's Tale: FDNY Deputy Chief Jay Jonas said
"The floor starting moving like it waswaves on a lake," this was before he ran in the direction of stairwell B.
Cruise missiles can DO all the things the planes could not.
NEADS "We have a decoy" 9/11 tapes: NEADS We got a decoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNOTGTuIrto&list=TLjhkyst_OwHY
My working theory now is BOTH happened. Planes followed up by missile with a warhead. If you believe this Fire Fighter.
I have people who work in the medical field and they apply anesthetics and when they wake up, they confess to all kinds of inside information about 9/11.
Reply: "My friend was out there a few days before it happened and he saw military trucks driving in and out of the towers all night long" did he blog this anyplace ?
REPLY: I can ask him and see what he says, they were on vacation, he loves new york, he goes there twice a year
a medical guy said this
" Info about 9/11 & cancer research using nano technology..... Lets just say his wife's blood line rhymes with the name meagan ... This gentleman was the consultant on the Star Wars project...."
Can you find out who this is? 1. George Shultz he was appointed by President Ronald Reagan to serve as the sixtieth U.S. Secretary of State, 2. Fred Redding, Jr. of SRI International "The Strategic Defense Initiative basically came out of Stanford Research Institute (SRI). Fred W. Redding, Jr. of SRI is generally credited with developing the concept. Stanford University’s Dr. Edward Teller, father of the H-bomb, was one of the most powerful protagonists of Reagan’s Star Wars program. Dr. Teller promoted a Star Wars weapons system to be based on the North Slope of Alaska. Major General Albert Stubblebine, he managed to fund the Jedi Project. SRI's focus areas include biomedical sciences, chemistry and materials, computing, Earth and space systems, economic development, education and learning, energy andenvironmental technology, security and national defense, as well as sensing and devices.[6] SRI has received more than 4,000 patents and patent applications worldwide.[7]
hmmm I wonder if a big explosion happened i.e another giant rumble. It could be the Oklahoma City style bombing of building 7 and it failed. Houston we have a problem.
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So, the Dancing Israelis Inc. (TM) received half a million dollars from uncle sam in June of 2001. The owner fled to Israel, rather than be questioned by FBI, and the place was raided by tons of agents after 9/11.
JUST HOW MUCH THERMITE DOES HALF A MILLION DOLLARS PURCHASE?
Taking a cue from Dr. Jones, I checked EBay. Thermite is on sale right now for $10/lb.
Assuming a bulk discount more in line with $5/ lb, a half million dollars would buy (correction) one hundred thousand pounds of thermite.
I'm not saying that's what happened.
I'm not saying it isn't.
4 hours ago
FOIL for Missing Second Plane via NYPD Air Units
Please ask the NYPD Air Units to release all Flight 175 images and videos. File a FOIL today. Protest do everything you can to get get those images.
File a FOIL or FOIA!!! Get the details of the second plane!
That sounds pretty cool. I don't understand poetry. Did you hear 9/11 poetry. "Someone blew up the towers"??
the fact that I am italian does have validity?
the fact that I am italian does have validity for sue the file case?
no I don't think so. You can still ask.
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Uses that address maybe if that is an issue.
If you wish.
OK, beacuse I remember (been in the USA from the 1990 to 1996) that certain complaint issue cannot be held by foreiners
especialy federal issue
So say you are here maybe
i well remember that an invalidation case can be posted ry the general attorney in case of foreiners influence on national security issue
So last night 9/11 came up and I talking about the engineering floors and giant I beams that supported the floor at that level. Thanks to you, that issue was fresh in my memory.
that they actually do it all the time
I am quite slow writer with the key board
i well remember that an invalidation case can be posted ry the general attorney in case of foreiners influence on national security issue, that they actually do it all the time
generally all the buildings are designed and calculated from the top down, in the sense that the structure below must have the capacity to support whatever is above with a safety ratio, generally 3 or 4 time superior to minumun
in the TT the ratio was well in excess of 4
I agree and the guy was pure official story.
He said that he was applying fire proofing to the towers.
??'
I talking about a conversation was a guy last night at my job.
OK
with a guy who said he worked inside the towers ..
I said to him the stuff you said the best I could.
He said in an angry tone "what are you saying"
what he said of the meccanical floors
I said if I had the contract I would take out those special floors.
He did not the mecanical floors
I am not sure which floor he worked or when.
I said you have to take out those mechanical floors.
FLIR camera show I think those floors were super hot in the center.
I got it , the best is to have some friends helping you reading the design, to give a good undertanding need good experience
FLIR camera videos are incomplete.
I think he was full of shit. I said the towers had 47 core columns.
He said - you mean the outside columns. - said the outside columns where 230. Was that right?
soory my wife distracted me
were 230 columns
I don't believe those 230 colmns are really columns at all. They were installed as jointed puzzle pieces. and placed as the floor were made.
I have to go thru the deign again, I always try not to give quick answer on design is a professional tipical habit
joined together puzzle pieces that connected to floors. 60 foot and 30 foot spans around the core.
they were welded also but another thing building structural designer always do is avoid to relay to a single featureof support
A fire fighter said in the 9/11 Oral Histories that the south tower was hit again by a missile.
Then the explosion followed by earthquake.
This is all in the public documents.
the best you could do is to interact with a friend that is in this kind of work, and he has some time at disposal because it really a big job building analisy and calculation, generally after a engineer end a project goes thru a nightmare for a month and more
He said he witnessed the second plane too.
same even turn mad, calculation load have often triple analisis done by external agency
but it sounded like he said it flew around the buildings like the U turn witness said.
Seen the kind of structure of the buidings you could have all the planes of that airline going against the building and still standing , get the point ?
does not matter the air plane was there or not, it matter that the building could have never crumble that way unless....somebody did something else
I removed the pennies concept based on you your ??? question marks and replaced the pennies concept with FF oral history comments.
refresh me please
I designed a concept of crushed pennies to show the pancake theory was crap.
OK a moment
But that didn't seem to work across internationals such as yourself.
first question How old are you
and people who have not experience with crushing coins with trains.
Iam 53
I am 40 years old. I work as a voter administrator.
ok I give you a quote that will take sometime to go trough
40 miles away from TT. inside the TT contractor locations home addresses.
So I work with some of the contractors of the WTC.
voter administrator refresh me
The machines that collect the votes.
for election?
I work between those machines and the people who vote.
Yes for election every Tuesday
presidential and political?
everything..
from local to national.
you are like an accountant
People were talking about thermate.
I told them thermate is iron oxide and aluminum.
I cannot talk of termite beacuse i did not collect any data
They said it was painted on.
A women said it was painted on.
yes it could be and it will explain the dusting of the steel
Correction her son said it was painted on.
I forgot to tell them that the material can be collected via a magnet using the dust as the source material.
every tower had a enorrm amount of steel that just disapear
Churches collected tons of dust to hand out to the missing. They still might have the dust containers.
correction: hand out to families of the missing.
It all start to make sense
Since the families had nothing, the dust became the object as a stand in.
So graveyards had this dust to hand out.
No husband so here some dust.
careful now
These containers should have the material.
enthusiastic behavior can ruin everything in front of lawyers
