Saturday, April 25, 2015

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J Caanard Greene"
From the admin, "Daniel M. Plese was either a spoofer disinfo agent or a useful idiot.. Either way, he's no longer with us, as he posted and blocked me so I couldn't even respond to his bullshit disinformation..


FOR THE RECO
RD.. This group is NOT a place to discuss or post about "no planes", "crisis actors", "space beams" or any of the SPECULATIVE theories floating around the disinfosphere.. This group's purpose is to focus on the actual HARD EVIDENCE and the collective exploration as to how we can pursue JUSTICE for the crimes of September 11th... You can believe whatever you want about how the towers came down, but if you can't adhere to these rules, you don't belong in this group.." 
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FROM NOTIFICATIONS
So Rebecca Roth Claim that Betty Ong and Amy Sweeney calls were made at the same time is incorrect. So we have a list of statements are now either missing (Cockpit Keys ) or incorrect which is another nail in her coffin. Every Sunday Starts shill feast, so get ready!
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  • Thomas Digan No calls were made, period, she can say what she wants, no calls as no planes, no planes then no phones, no phones then no calls. Simples.
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  • Daniel M. Plesse Thomas Digan So you shilling for both Roth and No planes at the same time???? Nice
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  • Thomas Digan You having a laff Dan, me shilling, read what i said, you know me, why are you talkinh shite,
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  • Thomas Digan Norma, u seeing this shite, he inundates with his ideas, we put up with it ,calling me a shill is beyond it.
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  • Norma Rae Daniel, I don't see how Thomas' statement is in any way shilling for Roth. You are welcome to disagree with any admins, but calling him a shill is pretty disrespectful. I can't be on here 24/7, so the admins can remove people at their will. Please use your words wisely.
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  • Thomas Digan Daniel I have no doubt about your knowledge of 9/11 and your dedication is brilliant but you don't know people, your knowledge of grammar is questionable, you don't know people, I do, You inundate with your theories on every 9/11 page , you have insulted me by calling me a shill. Unless you apologise i will remove you from this page and any other page i am admin on.
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  • Spencer Ellis Would you really can him for that Thomas?
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  • Thomas Digan Spencer, you know me, you know i'm not a shill, its an insult especially because if he has any sense he will know me and what i am all about, I'm pissed off getting called this, I listen to him on every page i am a member of, i never slag him or call him names.
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  • Norma Rae Spencer Ellis Matt Nereim once called Kevin James a shill. Kevin was fuming. Kevin asked for my permission to boot him. I backed Kevin, but Matt apologized and there was no need to boot him. Although I ended up booting him because then he was on my a$$ for the burnt vs toasted cars. But that's another story.

    Calling an admin a shill is a big no-no. Disagree with us all you want but don't call us shills or other disrespectful names. Cheers 
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  • Spencer Ellis Understood Thomas. Gotcha Norma

    Not my biz I guess, just like the amount of info he brings, whether I agree or not. Would hate to see him get the axe, but I realize getting called names sucks.
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  • Thomas Digan If he wants to call me a shill or say I'm shilling whatever that means, then explain it, I am still waiting, he does bring a lot of info Spencer, i like that but am not happy with him. Me an u are cool m8, u stuck up for me when Keith w as being a dick plus i like u.
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  • Spencer Ellis I appreciate that. You're good people as far as I'm concernedThomas.
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  • Thomas Digan Thanks m8
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  • Stephen Phillips look, there may be some link between your observation regarding grammatical fluency, Thomas (your claim, not mine, I have not considered that part of it) and a misapprehension of what you wrote dismissing Roth's accuracy (which was in fact the same thing Daniel was attempting - successfully I think - to demonstrate.

    I hope the mistake is acknowledged, and the accusation withdrawn.

    Which would be the end of story.

    Thomas is genuine, by the way, guys, in my experience, or I'll eat my hat...
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  • Daniel M. Plesse Norma Rae dismissing my exposing of Roth is is pretty disrespectful, with "she can say what she wants" 

    She can say it, but why can't I exposed it? It sounds like defence of Roth. 

    Dismissing Roth's inaccuracy is the same as defending an inaccuracy and therefore protecting a possible 9/11 faker. Then he dwells on his feelings for some reason, when he attacked me with "she can say what she wants". 

    Norma Rae I will not reply to him ever again, so that should solve the problem. I did not know he was a admin but this whole thread is a unnecessary distraction away from exposing criminals.
http://911.pterodactylus.net/?page=114
The Department of Homeland Security: 
When The Phoenix Comes Home To Roost
Bush with the "internal security" apparatus he needs to assure the continuity of political power in his hands, indefinitely, at the expense of our democracy and liberty.


And it brings the Phoenix Program home to roost.

Phoenix As The Conceptual Precedent For Homeland Security

2001-09-1110:04:35Skytel[005211809]AALPHAflashnet@intelcenter​.com|FlashNet Event|NYC: Third explosion apparently collapses Southern tower of World Trade Center.
2001-09-1202:42:35Skytel[005211809]AALPHAflashnet@intelcenter​.com|FlashNet Event|Osama bin Laden says he has no hand in NYC/DC attacks but supports them because they constitute a reaction of oppressed people against atrocities of the cruel.

2001-09-1109:42:03Metrocall[1222823]BALPHA I just saw I terr
2001-09-1109:42:05Metrocall[1222823]BALPHA orist plane dive toward to the pentagon and explode. Can't find hear what is happening. Please call if you can. Ted

2001-09-1109:47:33Metrocall[0902388]BALPHA Small aircraft crashed at Pentagon.ERT standby.

2001-09-1109:50:46Skytel[005056519]BALPHAInna.Urits@chase.com​||3rd plane just hit Pentagon. Tseluyu. Innulya.

17:30:52 Skytel [004105914] C ALPHA Compass update: laser head and spot size calibrations completed. Currently taking some references to send to Israel. Will have a conf. call w/Israel tomorrow 7:30 to determine how to proceed. Niv. 

(translated from swedish)
00:55:45 Skytel [007529204] B ALPHA DN - The FBI has begun the hunt - no reports of injured Swedes - Israel occupies high alert

16:49:44 Skytel [005206261] B ALPHA vze2j729@verizon.net|Classified Material|Ray, I turned the classified material over to Sgt Fisher. Mission accomplished.

Sep 11 15:33:17
2001-09-11 20:46:01 Arch [1619336] C ALPHA U called it right early on..those buildings melted




2001-09-11 13:11:22 Arch [1421665] A ALPHA 
RtOPS Update #1536 Operation Phoenix - I.S-CDE/CE NE Owner=Core Infrastructure * Operation Phoenix 866-791-7190 Passcode 7508470# Call for 10:00 CT update - activities associated with World Trade Ce 
http://911.wikileaks.org/files/messages_2001_09_11-13_10_2001_09_11-13_14.html#message_714

2001-09-11 13:11:33 Arch [1421665] A ALPHA 
 2 of 2  explosions. **Update** Operation Phoenix: 866-791-7190 passcode 7508470# Update at 13:00 CT SIMS
http://911.wikileaks.org/files/messages_2001_09_11-13_10_2001_09_11-13_14.html#message_769

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vNQTtwrwtg

RtOPS = Regional Thermal Ocean Prediction System


[link to www.signal.army.mil

Company B deployed the RC-12N Guardrail Common Sensor system to Operation Phoenix Venture in Kuwait from August 2001 through June 2002. During this time, they also supported US Central Command in support of Operations Desert Spring, Southern Watch and Operation Enduring Freedom.newsdirect@lyris.wcautv.com|NEWS ALERT|According to the Associated Press a car bomb
2001-09-11 12:01:44 Skytel [005042150] B ALPHA exploded outside State Department.
2001-09-11 09:00:25 Arch [0978052] B ALPHA
From: Ayanlar, Orhan (Exchange)- 737 crashes into world trade center.2001-09-1109:08:38Arch[0978052]BALPHA
From: Ayanlar, Orhan (Exchange)- Second plane crashes into other world trade center, terrorists I think?

2001-09-11 08:54:46 Arch [0932407] B ALPHA NYPD and emergency units at World Trade center, RE; airplane crash. Small Jet.

2001-09-11 11:08:26 Arch [1164258] A ALPHA scolucas| Just shot that plane down in leesburg - that is too close to where i am sitting for my liking - the one that hit the faa building - It is pure chaos here right now -
2001-09-11 11:26:32 Arch [0987634] A ALPHA From: Erb, Tammye (Exchange)- F-16s forced the plane down headed toward Dulles. It WAS headed for the Pent2001-09-11 23:01:54 Arch [0908108] D ALPHA 2/02:circuits are up. I am down grading status to information and will update resolution in the ticket. Contact Sheikh Khalil 7705226000 x 4102Mohammed Sheikh Khalil extension x 4102 haha dial terror. Which extension please? ALPHA 1/02:****CHG-TKT**** TYPE: Major OP: 09/11/01 20:17:29 Tkt: NOC000000084877 STAT: WIP COMPANY NAME: BellSouth.Net Inc. SITE: Owensboro LOG: Hopkinsville ERS city of Owensboro was ringing busy due 
2001-09-11 18:15:31 Skytel [003937543] B ALPHA RAY, I JUST SAW ON THE NEWS THAT TOWER NUMBER 7 COLLAPSED. AND I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU KNOW IF THE AGENTS GOT OUT OF THERE ON TIME. PLEASE PUT ALL THESE PROBLEMS ASIDE AND CALL ME JUST TO LET ME KNOW. 305 553 0935 
2001-09-11 18:15:31 Skytel [005125129] C SH/TONE 442001-09-1110:57:39Metrocall[002468283]CALPHAFrom: Joyce Howard Subj: pentagon It was a small commuter plane that crashed into the Pentagon. Part of that building has now collapsed.2001-09-

Friday, April 24, 2015

September 11th 2001 Used the same High-tech Fuel since 1989

NYPD Museum NYC 





High Temperature Accelerants (HTA's) 

For instance, typical fires generally do not generate temperatures higher than 2,000 F (1,093 C). With such temperatures, finding damage such as melted steel or badly damaged concrete is unusual. Since investigators

began finding such damage in the first of the now entitled HTA

fires, a name was created to describe what was thought to be a new

type of blaze.  (Carman & Associates) - High Temperature Accelerant Fires.pdf

Page 217 Consequently, the 9/11 museum conducted additional research, analyzing the heat levels that had created the fused material. Scientists determined that, at heat levels beyond 2,000 two thousand degrees
Fahrenheit.


Seattle Arsonist - Unsolved Mysteries Wiki The King of Arsonist

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Seattle_Arsonist



The Vacant Warehouse May Have Been Burned Using A High-tech Fuel.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1993-11-08/news/9311080226_1_chevron-hta-asbestos

 "one involving untraceable fuel, infernolike heat"

9/11 thermite fires at Ground Zero release 25 Lenny Mulhern



 HTA fires is the appearance of intense white or nearly white flames 


Thursday, April 23, 2015

Amy Goodman Social Engineering, Shill, a TRAITOR




Embarrassing NIST: They Left Out Critical Structural Features of WTC7

The Media was involved in 9/11:  Example Amy Goodman


Amy Goodman Social Engineering, Shilling the official Theory"On many occasions, self styled "liberal" commentator Amy Goodman has been approached by those in her audience who have come to realize that the US Government's story in "explanation" of the 9/11 attacks is not only baseless and a pack of lies, but also *impossible* in the real world. Unfortunately however, Ms. Goodman, a pro-peace, pro-democracy, pro-human rights, and pro- every other worthy case known to mankind activist and media figure, slapped the book closed on 9/11, the topic that still generates the most passion, the most argument and the most analysis than any other subject - even that which is most current/immediate. It seems beyond bizarre that Ms. Goodman and so many others on the so-called "liberal left" have done their utmost to sideline and ignore 9/11 - a an incredibly convenient attack that was used to convince the US public to support pre-planned illegal wars, massive increases in military spending while cutting funding for essential services, the trashing of many of our Constitutional freedoms and rights, and the transformation of the nation into an authoritarian, drone-filled society of paranoid snoopers and peeping toms.".
http://wot-on-earth.blogspot.com/2012/11/amy-goodman-traitor.html

Kevin:  It shows you present at the controlled demolition of Building 7."
Amy: "I did not demolish Building 7."
Matt Naus (off camera): "You were there, Amy! I saw the video of you. You were there!"
Amy: (smiling) "I work right there."  (no she works far away)
http://911blogger.com/node/11700

Head of the FBI’s Anthrax Investigation Says the Whole Thing Was a Sham, 9/11 up next! 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/head-of-the-fbis-anthrax-investigation-says-the-whole-thing-was-a-sham/5443516

Truth Jihad: My Epic Struggle Against the 9/11 Big Lie Paperback  April 11, 2007
http://www.amazon.com/Truth-Jihad-Epic-Struggle-Against/dp/0930852990


"Of all the articles I have written and posted, none has been more controversial than my warning to Amy Goodman that her refusal to report honestly on 9/11, and especially on the demolition of WTC-7, could get her condemned at a future Nuremburg trial. Anti-9/11-truth shills have circulated the lie that I issued Amy a death threat. Predicting that the laws against mass murder, high treason and war crimes will one day be enforced, and the Nuremburg precedent followed, is hardly a threat. It is simple common sense, given the obviousness and outrageousness of the 9/11 crimes, and the fact that people around the world are becoming more and more aware of them." --Kevin Barrett
http://www.mujca.com/amy.htm


Amy Goodman was interviewing and recording people at WTC 7 but carefully removed all details when, where and who... The Notice the almost zero background noise.  They were all ready not hear or see anything that day in terms of explosions. NIST could now sell the fire only concept. WPIX has a Flash Witness and 1010 Wins recorded NYU Student says "shockwave and clap of the thunder"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR1zzzIPfds

Kevin Mcpadden 9/11 First Responder: Building 7 Countdown, Explosions, Controlled Demolition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4z-Wrp1pY8

Example #1

Amy Goodman 9/11 South Face of WTC 7 looks like Oklahoma city bombing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cZMe6cS0jU

The background sounds from 1010 wins is totally missing do to background noise cancellation technology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuyGrWRhdU8

Wednesday, April 22, 2015

World Trade Center 9 11 Cancer rates

World Trade Center 9 11 Cancer rates 
We also estimated statistically significant increases over expected registry-based incidence rates for thyroid cancer (SIR = 2.39; 95% CI: 1.70, 3.27; 39 observed, 16.3 expected), prostate cancer (SIR = 1.21; 95% CI: 1.01, 1.44; 129 observed, 106.8 expected), combined hematopoietic and lymphoid cancers (SIR = 1.36; 95% CI: 1.07, 1.71; 74 observed, 54.5 expected), and soft tissue cancers (SIR = 2.26; 95% CI: 1.13, 4.05; 11 observed, 4.9 expected).
In addition, nonsignificant positive associations were estimated for non-Hodgkin lymphoma (SIR = 1.36; 95% CI: 0.96, 1.87; 8 observed, 6.6 expected) and kidney cancer (SIR = 1.39; 95% CI: 0.95, 1.98; 31 observed, 22.2 expected). Fewer than six cases of several cancer types were observed, including mesothelioma and cancers of the pancreas; nose, nasal cavity, and middle ear; larynx; and corpus uteri.

http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/1205894/

Dear World Trade Center Cancer researchers, at
http://www.cdc.gov/wtc/researchprojects.html

EMT Indria Singh, who was present at the WTC site shortly after 9/11, confirms first responders symptoms included hair loss & tooth loss. Perhaps the best known early signs of radiation exposure.



To


Bromet, Evelyn J.

CcBcc
Would you say World Trade Center 911 Asbestos cancers are nonexistent or 
just very low? 

Thanks 

On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Bromet, Evelyn J.
 <Evelyn.Bromet@stonybrookmedicine.edu> wrote:

Email #2

Email to CDC,
   
        Have you found any amphibole asbestos related mesothelioma cancer patients in your study? Dust studies so far say amphibole is missing from the samples.  Are they telling the truth?  This is good news however the Towers were filled with asbestos.  Were did the asbestos go? 

 Thanks  

Also How much of the lung cancer "72" is mesothelioma?



Bromet, Evelyn J. Evelyn.Bromet@stonybrookmedicine.edu

Jan 1
to me
It means the risk of thyroid cancer in WTC responders treated in one of the CDC funded Health Programs is three times higher than, I’m guessing, the rate for the populations of the 4 states where they accessed tumor registries (PA, NJ, CT, NY).

You’d need to write to Dr. Boffetta to verify the comparison but probably I’m right.

At that same meeting, there was another presentation from the WTC Health Registry. There is overlap in responders attending the WTC Health Programs and responders enrolled in the Registry – but lots of non-overlap as well.

Interestingly, the Registry scoured 11 states and reported a 2-fold increase in thyroid cancer (see abstract below).

Hard to know if it’s because of the differences in the samples – or the number of states where they hunted down cases.

One last comment. Neither presentation had data on exposure per se. Boffetta mentions his exposure index at the end but I don’t know if they’ve yet run the analysis.  The Health Programs were established in July 2002 – so even the first enrollees were reporting on what they did almost 2 years earlier. The exposure questionnaire is very detailed. But there’s no getting around the fact that self-reported exposure contains lots of recall bias.

Association between WTC Exposure and Excess Cancer Risk: Initial Findings from the WTC Health Registry


Abstract 

Objective To evaluate cancer incidence among persons enrolled in the World Trade Center Health Registry (WTCHR). 

Methods Observational study of 55 778 New York State residents enrolled in the WTCHR in 2003-2004, followed from enrollment through December 31, 2008. Cases were identified through linkage with 11 statecancer registriesStandardized incidence ratios (SIRs) adjusted for age, race/ethnicity, and sex were computed with 2003-2008 New York State reference rates. Agreement between cancers self-reported on WTCHR surveys and cancer registry cases was assessed by sensitivity, specificity and positive predictive values. Correlates associated with under- or over-reporting were examined using logistic regression. 

Results 1187 incident cancers were diagnosed, with an accumulated 253 269 person-years. The SIR for all cancer sites combined in 2007-2008 was not significantly elevated (SIR, 1.14 [95% CI, 0.99 to 1.30] among responders vs SIR, 0.92 [95% CI, 0.83 to 1.03] among survivors). Among rescue/recovery workers, cancers with significantly increased SIRs by 2007-2008 included prostate cancer (1.43, 95% CI, 1.11 to 1.82), thyroid cancer (2.02, 95% CI, 1.07 to 3.45), and multiple myeloma (2.85, 95% CI, 1.15 to 5.88). Overall sensitivity and specificity of self-reported cancer were 83.9% (95% CI=81.9-85.9) and 98.5% (95% CI=98.4-98.6), respectively. Underreporting was greatest among non-Hispanic blacks and Asians. 

Conclusions Among persons enrolled in the WTCHR, there was an excess risk for prostate cancerthyroid cancer, and myeloma in 2007- 2008 compared with that for New York State residents. Sensitivity and specificity of self-reported cancer were relatively high. 

Impact

The WTCHR cancer incidence study suggests that overall cancer rates do not appear to be elevated, up to the end of 2008, among survivor or responder populations. However, there appears to be a significantly increased incidence of specific cancers, including prostate cancerthyroid cancer and multiple myeloma, among responders. Increased medical screening cannot be ruled out as a potential cause for prostate orthyroid cancer

Many types of cancer in addition to the three types found to be increased in this study are currently recognized by the World Trade Center Health Program as potentially World Trade Center exposure-related. Survivors and responders are encouraged to contact the WTCHP (1-888-982-4748 orhttp://www.cdc.gov/wtc/index.html) if they have questions about accessing available resources for cancerevaluation or treatment. 
From: Dan Plesse [mailto:dan.plesse@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 1:32 PM
Subject: Fwd: 9/11 thyroid cancer was 3.12 (95% CI 2.04-4.57)

" that for thyroid cancer was 3.12 (95% CI 2.04-4.57)"

http://s1222.photobucket.com/user/danp5648/media/thyroidCancerEmail.jpg.html

Could the thyroid cancer be caused by this little device ? 

http://www.cdc.gov/wtc/proceedings.html

9/11 Cancer is fundamentally different Prostate cancer, Multiple Myeloma, Thyroid Cancer 

http://media.jamanetwork.com/releases/jama12182012/

 for all cancers combined was 1.06 (95% confidence interval [CI] 0.94-1.18), that for thyroid cancer was 3.12 (95% CI 2.04-4.57) and that of lung cancer was 0.62 (95% CI 0.37-0.98).

http://www.cdc.gov/wtc/proceedings.html

Ground zero Asbestos Cancers None existent, The Cause low yield nuclear device

Best details were released by Russia, when the USA pissed them off in the Ukraine It wasn't asbestos that is killing the ground zero rescue workers. Just a low yield nuclear device, but this subject isn't part of MidEast politics. It is just about power and profit, Mid East is personal, and as long as it stays that way it will continue to be a lose/lose game

asbestos cancers are nonexistent 

World Trade Center 9 11 Missing Asbestos and Mesothelioma

source

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKeud_Ren0E


World Trade Center collapse. Asbestos was detected in only 2 of the 48 samples
http://www2.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2013-08/documents/libbyasbestos_ambientairlitsearch5-20-2013.pdf

"Results of the SEM/EDS analysis indicates that amphibole asbestos is not present in these dusts."
http://speclab.cr.usgs.gov/wtc/sem1/index.html

differences between chrysotile and amphibole asbestos
http://www.chrysotile.com/data/encart_an_final.pdf

CHRYSOTILE is safe and gets cleared away, amphibole asbestos

Barry Jennings stony brook hospital leukemia
https://www.facebook.com/notes/dan-plesse/barry-jennings-stony-brook-hospital-leukemia/10152600053249146

Increased level multiple myeloma report.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLNnlMLU43MDRtSk0/edit?usp=sharing

9 11 nuclear fallout Evidence and Cover up with EMT Indira Singh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMYW0Vbe0N8&noredirect=1&hd=1

Mary Ann Owens Pentagon Witness 9 11 Nuke Scars and Disfigurementhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYZp97LLL4o&noredirect=1&hd=1

Radiation Expert Claims High Radiation ReadingsNear Pentagon After 9/11 Indicates Depleted Uranium Used by Leuren Moret

Dan Plesse Norma Rae Jeffrey Harr 
A few scientific papers ruled out paint and new scientific papers are still being written today. I am not sure what Frederic henry-couannier found or did not find. 

I can see why Norma and Jeffrey can find common ground here.... I not sure why both are not updated. 

Mark Basile project status august 2014
http://citizenfor911truth.files.wordpress.com/.../mark...

Eric Lawyer Firefighter for 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADygllD35t0&noredirect=1...
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Dan Plesse USGS Found microspheres of pure iron or was that 

Trade Center air laden with
very fine particles, DELTA scientists find
http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/evidence/ucop_tradecenerair.html


"The air from Ground Zero was laden with extremely high amounts of very small particles, probably associated with high temperatures in the underground debris pile," says Thomas Cahill, UC Davis professor emeritus of physics and atmospheric sciences."

Frederic Study of Micro Spheres finds Aluminum and Iron together 
http://www.darksideofgravity.com/marseille_gb.pdf

9/11 Dr. Cahill find Iron in air samples months later!
http://investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com/.../the-infamous...
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Jeffrey Harr And iron-rich microspheres, which also is evidence of nothing. The USGS didn't seem to find them suspicious:

http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2005/1165/508OF05-1165.html


pubs.usgs.gov
Particle Atlas of World Trade Center Dust

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