For instance, typical fires generally do not generate temperatures higher than 2,000 F (1,093 C). With such temperatures, finding damage such as melted steel or badly damaged concrete is unusual. Since investigators
began finding such damage in the first of the now entitled HTA
fires, a name was created to describe what was thought to be a new
Page 217 Consequently, the 9/11 museum conducted additional research, analyzing the heat levels that had created the fused material. Scientists determined that, at heat levels beyond 2,000 two thousand degrees Fahrenheit.
The Media was involved in 9/11: Example Amy Goodman
Amy Goodman Social Engineering, Shilling the official Theory"On many occasions, self styled "liberal" commentator Amy Goodman has been approached by those in her audience who have come to realize that the US Government's story in "explanation" of the 9/11 attacks is not only baseless and a pack of lies, but also *impossible* in the real world. Unfortunately however, Ms. Goodman, a pro-peace, pro-democracy, pro-human rights, and pro- every other worthy case known to mankind activist and media figure, slapped the book closed on 9/11, the topic that still generates the most passion, the most argument and the most analysis than any other subject - even that which is most current/immediate. It seems beyond bizarre that Ms. Goodman and so many others on the so-called "liberal left" have done their utmost to sideline and ignore 9/11 - a an incredibly convenient attack that was used to convince the US public to support pre-planned illegal wars, massive increases in military spending while cutting funding for essential services, the trashing of many of our Constitutional freedoms and rights, and the transformation of the nation into an authoritarian, drone-filled society of paranoid snoopers and peeping toms.". http://wot-on-earth.blogspot.com/2012/11/amy-goodman-traitor.html
Kevin: It shows you present at the controlled demolition of Building 7." Amy: "I did not demolish Building 7." Matt Naus (off camera): "You were there, Amy! I saw the video of you. You were there!" Amy: (smiling) "I work right there." (no she works far away) http://911blogger.com/node/11700
"Of all the articles I have written and posted, none has been more controversial than my warning to Amy Goodman that her refusal to report honestly on 9/11, and especially on the demolition of WTC-7, could get her condemned at a future Nuremburg trial. Anti-9/11-truth shills have circulated the lie that I issued Amy a death threat. Predicting that the laws against mass murder, high treason and war crimes will one day be enforced, and the Nuremburg precedent followed, is hardly a threat. It is simple common sense, given the obviousness and outrageousness of the 9/11 crimes, and the fact that people around the world are becoming more and more aware of them." --Kevin Barrett http://www.mujca.com/amy.htm
Amy Goodman was interviewing and recording people at WTC 7 but carefully removed all details when, where and who... The Notice the almost zero background noise. They were all ready not hear or see anything that day in terms of explosions. NIST could now sell the fire only concept. WPIX has a Flash Witness and 1010 Wins recorded NYU Student says "shockwave and clap of the thunder" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR1zzzIPfds
World Trade Center 9 11 Cancer rates We also estimated statistically significant increases over expected registry-based incidence rates for thyroid cancer (SIR = 2.39; 95% CI: 1.70, 3.27; 39 observed, 16.3 expected), prostate cancer (SIR = 1.21; 95% CI: 1.01, 1.44; 129 observed, 106.8 expected), combined hematopoietic and lymphoid cancers (SIR = 1.36; 95% CI: 1.07, 1.71; 74 observed, 54.5 expected), and soft tissue cancers (SIR = 2.26; 95% CI: 1.13, 4.05; 11 observed, 4.9 expected). In addition, nonsignificant positive associations were estimated for non-Hodgkin lymphoma (SIR = 1.36; 95% CI: 0.96, 1.87; 8 observed, 6.6 expected) and kidney cancer (SIR = 1.39; 95% CI: 0.95, 1.98; 31 observed, 22.2 expected). Fewer than six cases of several cancer types were observed, including mesothelioma and cancers of the pancreas; nose, nasal cavity, and middle ear; larynx; and corpus uteri.
EMT Indria Singh, who was present at the WTC site shortly after 9/11, confirms first responders symptoms included hair loss & tooth loss. Perhaps the best known early signs of radiation exposure.
Would you say World Trade Center 911 Asbestos cancers are nonexistent or just very low?
Have you found any amphibole asbestos related mesothelioma cancer patients in your study? Dust studies so far say amphibole is missing from the samples. Are they telling the truth? This is good news however the Towers were filled with asbestos. Were did the asbestos go?
Thanks
Also How much of the lung cancer "72" is mesothelioma?
It means the risk of thyroidcancer in WTC responders treated in one of the CDC funded Health Programs is three times higher than, I’m guessing, the rate for the populations of the 4 states where they accessed tumor registries (PA, NJ, CT, NY).
You’d need to write to Dr. Boffetta to verify the comparison but probably I’m right.
At that same meeting, there was another presentation from the WTC Health Registry. There is overlap in responders attending the WTC Health Programs and responders enrolled in the Registry – but lots of non-overlap as well.
Interestingly, the Registry scoured 11 states and reported a 2-fold increase in thyroidcancer (see abstract below).
Hard to know if it’s because of the differences in the samples – or the number of states where they hunted down cases.
One last comment. Neither presentation had data on exposure per se. Boffetta mentions his exposure index at the end but I don’t know if they’ve yet run the analysis. The Health Programs were established in July 2002 – so even the first enrollees were reporting on what they did almost 2 years earlier. The exposure questionnaire is very detailed. But there’s no getting around the fact that self-reported exposure contains lots of recall bias.
Association between WTC Exposure and Excess Cancer Risk: Initial Findings from the WTC Health Registry
Abstract
Objective To evaluate cancer incidence among persons enrolled in the World Trade Center Health Registry (WTCHR).
Methods Observational study of 55 778 New York State residents enrolled in the WTCHR in 2003-2004, followed from enrollment through December 31, 2008. Cases were identified through linkage with 11 statecancer registries. Standardized incidence ratios (SIRs) adjusted for age, race/ethnicity, and sex were computed with 2003-2008 New York State reference rates. Agreement between cancers self-reported on WTCHR surveys and cancer registry cases was assessed by sensitivity, specificity and positive predictive values. Correlates associated with under- or over-reporting were examined using logistic regression.
Results 1187 incident cancers were diagnosed, with an accumulated 253 269 person-years. The SIR for all cancer sites combined in 2007-2008 was not significantly elevated (SIR, 1.14 [95% CI, 0.99 to 1.30] among responders vs SIR, 0.92 [95% CI, 0.83 to 1.03] among survivors). Among rescue/recovery workers, cancers with significantly increased SIRs by 2007-2008 included prostate cancer (1.43, 95% CI, 1.11 to 1.82), thyroidcancer (2.02, 95% CI, 1.07 to 3.45), and multiple myeloma (2.85, 95% CI, 1.15 to 5.88). Overall sensitivity and specificity of self-reported cancer were 83.9% (95% CI=81.9-85.9) and 98.5% (95% CI=98.4-98.6), respectively. Underreporting was greatest among non-Hispanic blacks and Asians.
Conclusions Among persons enrolled in the WTCHR, there was an excess risk for prostate cancer, thyroid cancer, and myeloma in 2007- 2008 compared with that for New York State residents. Sensitivity and specificity of self-reported cancer were relatively high.
Impact
The WTCHR cancer incidence study suggests that overall cancer rates do not appear to be elevated, up to the end of 2008, among survivor or responder populations. However, there appears to be a significantly increased incidence of specific cancers, including prostate cancer, thyroidcancer and multiple myeloma, among responders. Increased medical screening cannot be ruled out as a potential cause for prostate orthyroidcancer.
Many types of cancer in addition to the three types found to be increased in this study are currently recognized by the World Trade Center Health Program as potentially World Trade Center exposure-related. Survivors and responders are encouraged to contact the WTCHP (1-888-982-4748 orhttp://www.cdc.gov/wtc/index.html) if they have questions about accessing available resources for cancerevaluation or treatment.
From: Dan Plesse [mailto:dan.plesse@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Fwd: 9/11 thyroidcancer was 3.12 (95% CI 2.04-4.57)
" that for thyroid cancer was 3.12 (95% CI 2.04-4.57)"
for all cancers combined was 1.06 (95% confidence interval [CI] 0.94-1.18), that for thyroid cancer was 3.12 (95% CI 2.04-4.57) and that of lung cancer was 0.62 (95% CI 0.37-0.98).
Ground zero Asbestos Cancers None existent, The Cause low yield nuclear device
Best details were released by Russia, when the USA pissed them off in the Ukraine It wasn't asbestos that is killing the ground zero rescue workers. Just a low yield nuclear device, but this subject isn't part of MidEast politics. It is just about power and profit, Mid East is personal, and as long as it stays that way it will continue to be a lose/lose game
asbestos cancers are nonexistent
World Trade Center 9 11 Missing Asbestos and Mesothelioma
Dan PlesseNorma RaeJeffrey Harr A few scientific papers ruled out paint and new scientific papers are still being written today. I am not sure what Frederic henry-couannier found or did not find.
I can see why Norma and Jeffrey can find common ground here.... I not sure why both are not updated.
"The air from Ground Zero was laden with extremely high amounts of very small particles, probably associated with high temperatures in the underground debris pile," says Thomas Cahill, UC Davis professor emeritus of physics and atmospheric sciences."
Full Path /911datasets.org/FOIA Release of 3,160 Electronic Records of The WTC Collapse Investigation/group 3 - disk 2 of 3 - 253 photos/Roll #3 1.jpg
John Farmer of the 9/11 Commission report capitalizes the N-W-O or NWO i.e New World Order in his book "Ground Truth", which means its not just a phrase to be dismissed but a title of a movement like ISIS.I wrote to him and the entire Rutgers Law Staff about the missing NYPD photos and videos from both the ground and the air and guess what - no response. That my friends this is the NWO at work, its total domination across all areas of life, from nondisclosure of video and photography from every NYPD officer to the nondisclosure of from video and photography taken from the dancing Israelis by the NJPD. This emails are probes into the New World Order. Denialist are quick to defend however.
Issue #1 Ground Truth General Weaver verses BTS
General Weaver Flight 175 took off at 8:14 page 244.
( gate departure of United Airlines 175 is indisputable: 7:58 a.m., which is also confirmed by the database of the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (BTS):The BTS notes a wheels-off time of 8:23, which differs distinctly from the "official" wheels-off time, which is 8:14. a mechanical switcher when the plane loses contact to the ground. The data are sent automatically to the airline via ACARS, and the airline forwards them to the BTS on a regular base. So apparently no human failure is possible. 911woodybox)
Issue #2
Page 237-238 NEADS MCC PUT 'EM OVER MANHATTAN, okay? let's get 'em over Manhattan
Langley fighters to Baltimore
NEADS: I am going choke that guy
Issue #3
Page 239 Ground Truth NORAD
"9:25:13 "arcft that hit wt bldg, not repeat not hijack aa acrft"
Issue #4 He says the "let's roll" thing was a scam but his reasonings are completely stupid. page 237
It was not crashed by the passengers and crew, nor was it crashed because of a cockpit struggle. As the final, clearly heard cries of “Allah Akhbar” made clear, it was the last desperate act of a failed mission, taken because the hijackers feared that the passengers and crew would retake the plane and land it safely. Issue #5 The irony of "let's roll"an impenetrable fortress of solitude for the hijackers and a worthless barrier for everyone else. Why did the passengers have to deal with the locked cockpit door and not the hijackers? So the hijackers were more concerned about the passengers interfering with operations and so locked the doors! brilliant!! However the passengers and crew were caught unawares and unconcerned with locking the cockpit from hijackers, sky raging passengers which apparently was key to caused 9/11. Basically it was those doors which was the window into John Farmer's NWO. However suddenly the cockpit door could withstand the total sum of the passengers and now required a battering ram, in the form of a food cart! The pilots are never heard from or seen again after a few radio communications to provide material support for a ridiculous story. The irony and reversal of what the cockpit door functioned as is hilarious. The NWO could be behind the reason why Rebekah Roth dares not speak of the doors or the cockpit door keys. The goal is make to knows unknowns and loss common understanding further down the memory hole. Make war by way of deception.. According to John Farmers account the hijackers caught a whiff of resistance after their cloaks of invisibility sweet effortless takeover of the cockpit controls and ironically again after overcoming this key obstacle (cockpit door and possible unruly pilots) decided to abort mission.
Again this is a stupid stupid, ridiculous and hilarious story and shouldn't be shared between with fisherman, let alone among the public at large and yet if you pound the public hard enough and make sure all the key leaders of knowing don't call into question anything the government does, only the anti-government communist could see this irony of "let's roll"..
I wonder if any of the red box i.e bomb or the yellow wired weapon was found? How about a fragment of the black boxes for Flight 175 and Flight 11? Nope just the red bandana and passports. If they found an half eaten ice cream cone still half frozen, you better believe the public wold believe that too.
That's excellent! So they were right there when/where the supposed massive 767 went 'right underneath them' and slammed into WTC2.
So either there was NOTHING that flew into it or it was a tiny drone.
