What if Molybdenum Steel Grade Alloy was used for the flooring and NIST lied about the grade of steel used.. How else to explain the high concentrations molybdenum at Ground Zero.."My firm's spent the last five years building a wrongful-death case against the designers and builders of the World Trade Center. The whole theory of the case hinges on molybdenum. " So what happened? Did they settle? The reverse of this guys case NIST all to hell.. and.. "Molybdenum alloys are much better at resisting heat, which means the moly metal would have been twice as good at retaining tensile strength at high temperatures?" http://www.greenchipstocks.com/articles/molybdenum-the-metal-that-could-have-saved-the-twin-towers/1004
This guy believes molybdenum was not used..
Part II 12 different grades of steel on the wall..
Brian G. · Friends with Glenn Zarmanov and 5 others
Well it was an older man say about 60 years old and he claimed he saw the first plane and according to him it was a small plane, like a Cesna... And it sort of bounced of the building surface and down onto the ground...
That's more or less what I remember... Didn't get him on tape sadly...
Hans Kunnen, WTC 3 Survivor 9/11 Explosion Witness
Scientists
from Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory identified elevated levels
of tritium, a radioactive isotope of hydrogen, in samples taken from a
WTC storm sewer and from the basement of WTC6, three and ten days,
respectively, after the 9/11 attacks. The first group (brown bars)
reflects the decrease in tritium levels following atmospheric nuclear
detonations. The second group (green bars) shows
the most recent tritium levels in the Great Lakes. There are no nuclear
power plants on Lake Superior, so it is a good indicator for
"background levels" of tritium. The middle group (yellow bars) shows
tritium levels found at the WTC by Parekh, et al and Semkow, et al.
These values measured at the WTC following the 9/11 attacks are about 50
times greater than background values. The fourth group (blue bars)
shows values of tritium measured [inside the cell] of a Low Energy Nuclear
Reaction (LENR) experiment (also known as "cold fusion"). Tritium in
the LENR cell is about 50 times greater than what was seen at the WTC.
The last group (red bars) are values measured in groundwater following a
leak from a nuclear power plant ("hot fusion"), which is the type of
reaction in nuclear and "mini-nuke" bombs or warheads. These values are
360 times greater than LENR values, and about 18,000 times greater than
the WTC values (table from Dr. Judy Wood's presentation at the 2012
'Breakthrough Energy Movement' conference in Holland). Source: http://drjudywood.com/ & http://vimeo.com/57923364
Tritium is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen that is used in research,
fusion reactors, and neutron generators. The half-life of tritium is
about 12.32 years. The radioactive decay product of tritium is a low
energy beta that cannot penetrate the outer dead layer of human skin.
Therefore, the main hazard associated with tritium is internal exposure
from inhalation or ingestion. Tritium is also used in watch faces and
exit signs with chemicals (e.g. phosphor) that emit light in the
presence of radiation. Rifle sites have about 12mCi of tritium and exit
signs contain several curies of tritium. The curie is a unit measure of
an amount of radioactivity. A curie (Ci) is the amount of a radioactive
substance that has 3.7x10^10 decays per second, or 1 Bacquerel (Bq). The
WTC contained no exit signs with tritium, according to the group
studying the tritium samples found at the WTC. They concluded that the
tritium must have come from exit signs on the two alleged planes.
However, as the Idaho State University Tritium Information page states,
"Signs often have several curies of tritium in them. If the exit signs
were severely damaged, HT gas might escape into the local area, but it
should be dispersed by ventilation or wind quickly." Thus, it does not
seem plausible that all of the tritium in the four exit signs on the
alleged planes made it into the groundwater of WTC6, especially when you
consider that WTC6 was not hit by the alleged airliners, and because
rain and fire hoses would have significantly diluted any tritium from
the signs. Source: http://www.osti.gov/scitech/biblio/15002340
You
wrote with my clarifications: "[Dr. Wood] didn't make a conclusion and
[Dr. Wood didn't] debunked the official report on Tritium."
Yes.
Dr. Wood accepted unquestioned and unchallenged the government
commissioned work on tritium. If anything, that section was meant to
take FGNW considerations off of the table.
BTW,
Dr. Wood also accepted unquestioned and unchallenged the government
commissioned work on hot-spots and their satellite. On that front (in
the government report), all it would take is mislabeling an image from,
say, November and implying that it was from late September to implant
false impressions.
[Dr. Wood didn't] debunked the official report on Tritium." I think this is an incorrect statement.
I believe she DID debunk and question the Government..
and I Quote "
Thus, it does not seem plausible that all of the tritium in the four
exit signs on the alleged planes made it into the groundwater of WTC6,
especially when you consider that WTC6 was not hit by the alleged
airliners, and because rain and fire hoses would have significantly
diluted any tritium from the signs." she forgets to include the Gun
Scopes which shows laziness or poor reading skills however she writes
well..
My
question is when does background levels back fill into new materials
i.e freshly made layers of water and dust.. or is background inescapable
constant?
I am not sure what Jones said "Dr. Jones' no-nukes paper. " Maybe a few quotes would help?
Maxwell BridgesDear Mr. Daniel M. Plesse,
To the extent that you've explained Dr. Wood debunking the government
sponsored & scope-limited report on tritium, then I stand corrected.
Debunking by Dr. Wood happened. Just not to the thrashing degree that
this particular report deserved and I was hoping for. Call that
disappointment #1.
Disappointment
#2 is that Dr. Wood name-drops LENR (low energy nuclear reactions),
shows in a stilted manner (e.g., "in the cell of a LENR device") how
LENR didn't apply, how leakage from a nuclear plant didn't apply, then
seemingly drops all further nuclear considerations.
You
mentioned that she forgot to include gun scopes; I say she also forgot
time pieces. You attribute it to laziness or poor reading skills. I
think this applies to her research as well. I don't think she researched
nuclear means very well. Hard to believe that she would't have stumbled
upon Andre Gsponer and his fourth generation nuclear weapons
"forward-looking papers."
Your real question was about background levels.
Let's
be clear: we're talking tritium which is essentially a variant of
water. Combined with water somehow is the mostly likely way it will be
measured -- and certainly the mostly likely way human health could be
impacted --, which is why they targeted their measurements with the
run-off and groundwater. [An area in the report deserving of thrashing
is limiting sampling to the WTC-6.] However, some tritium was
transported on water vapor through the air with the dust cloud, landed
on tree leafs downwind, and was measured there in very same report.
Due
to the atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons (combined with some
naturally occuring sources of tritium -- vulcanos; see Dr. Jones
research), the background levels of tritium increased in the years
leading up to 9/11. It is an inescapable constant.
Your
question highlights a blatant error in that report, propagated further
by Dr. Jones and Dr. Wood. The error is re-defining what the tritium
background level should be. Granted, the levels we are talking about
were still well below those tritium thresholds considered health
impacting by various health agencies: small. But not insignificant. And
with some measurements in that report, it implies a re-defined
background level 55 times greater than other 2001 background levels.
Even the mundane samples taken downwind were over 3 times greater than
expected.
Background
levels are. They aren't supposed to increase with freshly made layers
of water and dust. This is one of the skews of the report. Measured
levels can increase, and the difference between measured levels and the
original background levels is from new sources. The report, however,
tried to half-heartedly skew this increase as background levels; more
importantly, it assured the public that 9/11 tritium wasn't health
impacting: its goal.
[Dr. Wood didn't] debunked the official report on Tritium." I think this is an incorrect statement.
I believe she DID debunk and question the Government..
Quote "
Thus, it does not seem plausible that all of the tritium in the four
exit signs on the alleged planes made it into the groundwater of WTC6,
especially when you consider that WTC6 was not hit by the alleged
airliners, and because rain and fire hoses would have significantly
diluted any tritium from the signs." she forgets to include the Gun
Scopes which shows laziness or poor reading skills however she writes
well..
My
question is when does background levels back fill into new materials
i.e freshly made layers of water and dust.. or is background inescapable
constant?
I am not sure what Jones said "Dr. Jones' no-nukes paper. " Maybe a few quotes would help?
Does anyone know where the Tritium came from NOW? NO!
IF it's NOT the stupid Plane Exit signs or the stupid gun scopes are not the stupid answer? Rosalee Grable"Tritium is produced by cold fusion reactions." From Philip Joy "In
a personal email exchange she rounded on me quite severely for
mentioning 'cold fusion'. She asked me if that was my idea or where did I
get it, as if it was no a definite proposition on her part." Brent implosionworld.com said "Yes, absolutely. It was a giant meteor. I’d run with that."
Philip JoyThanks, Daniel M. Plesse,
have you read Where Did the Towers Go? I have. Because Tritium levels
are cited by nukers as evidence of nukes, her book denies that there is
sufficient tritium. There are arguments on both sides, but her main
point is that ground
zero tritium levels are less than in naturally occuring places such as
the Great Lakes. She does not deny the tritium levels that exist or
existed. PS what "crime" exactly has she committed by making these
unremarkable observations? I am not a fan of Dr Wood personally, but I
merely wish to set it straight that she is not appear to be covering
anything up.
Daniel M. PlessePhilip JoyShe
addresses the tritium on her facebook page and I copied her comments
onto my blog page.. Did you bother to read her current comments on her
FB or my Blog which I posted above? Is her currents on facebook
different the book and does current comment nullify her older book
comments?The Great Lakes have many nuclear power plants which leak tritium so " naturally occurring" I hope she didn't say that.. Did
she say that? I hope Not! As the Canadian background tritium water concentration is 2 Bq/L and so is Lake Superior
Daniel M. PlesseYes it seems like a clean weapon caused the sounds and the heat.
Maxwell BridgesDear
Ms. Grable. I am ~not~ a physicist, but I do have an engineering
background, understand technical things, and can research. When Dr. Wood
name-dropped "cold fusion", I eventually dutifully researched it and
studied the matter just this last Spring while unemployed.
While
cold fusion is a real thing, it isn't real enough ~today~ to power or
make anything useful, let alone a whiz-bang weapon deployed mysteriously
behind-the-scenes 15 years ago.
I've
read Dr. Wood's book cover-to-cover and have used it very effectively
as an objectivity test in my debate opponents to find the good, the bad,
and the ugly. Not until my second pass through her book did I start
spotting the disinformation. [Details available upon request.]
What
you need to understand, Ms. Grable, is that Dr. Wood's work was ~never~
considered even by the author as the end station. Her purpose was to
get readers to think out-of-the-box and introduce concepts that may or
may not be relevant to 9/11. Actually, the sticker on the inside of her
book and repeated in the intro says it all, having to do with listening
to the evidence.
Be
that as it may, Dr. Wood could not power her DEW with anything
real-world. And Dr. Wood has major omissions in not considering more
thoroughly deviants of nuclear weapons, now named by Andre Gsponer as
Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapons (FGNW). I mean, her website has a
great page about the dirt that was trucked in, spread out, scooped back
up a few days later, and trucked out. YET SHE DOESN'T MAKE THE OBVIOUS
CONNECTION THAT THIS IS CLASSIC RADIATION MITIGATION TECHNIQUES.
Further, this web page was not re-purposed in her book.
But
I digress. Cold fusion is a concept promoted by Dr. Wood that has no
real-world instantiation to date. Period. If Dr. Wood had a purpose in
bringing it up, it was to demonstrate weaknesses in Dr. Jones'
character. He legitimately poured water on Pons & Fleischmann's cold
fusion for the government, even while he pursued cold fusion research
of his own.
Before
you go any further with your promotion of cold fusion, get yourself a
library card at your local institution of higher education (like I did).
Armed with that, you can do tons of research from home; you'd only have
to go to the library to pick up the books you ordered. For the purposes
of 9/11, you may not even have to read beyond the abstracts or
introductory chapters to learn what you need to know. Which is: cold
fusion is promising but far from real-world.
FGNW is another story.
//
Tritium
Larry MalletteDaniel, In answer to your questions, dust continued to be emitted from "ground zero" for many weeks after 9-11. We don't know whether the dust was rising because coarse bits of the original dust was breaking down into finer and finer particles that would be more easily suspended in air, or because bits of debris continued to crumble into dust. "During many days after the attack, bits of metal in the debris were observed "spontaneously" to start glowing - described by more than one eyewitness. One must presume that this occurred because of the prior absorption of energy from the interfering energy fields. The relationship of these glowing bits to the presumed "hot spots" in the area is unknown. " As far as dust generation goes, the distinctive odor of the WTC dust only left the vicinity after the deconstruction of the Bankers Trust building (which contained damaged steel that continued to deteriorate) was finally completed in 2010. During the deconstruction a fire broke out spontaneously (no source was ever found) in an area of the building that had been recently exposed. Two firefighters lost their lives battling that fire. Never explained.
At 25:00 - '… you'd be in the middle of what would look like steel, and fire would just pop up. firemen were coming out with their boots literally melted."
""During many days after the attack, bits of metal in the debris were observed "spontaneously" to start glowing - described by more than one eyewitness. One must presume that this occurred because of the prior absorption of energy from the interfering energy fields. The relationship of these glowing bits to the presumed "hot spots" in the area is unknown. "
This fire based stuff would get you banned at Judy Wood controlled Facebook pages.
Tritium could be the key smoking gun
Tritium could be the key smoking gun.. Its another item along with high melting point sphericals.. Molybdenum spherical was found in the dust with a melting point of 2617.. boiling temperature for aluminosilicate is approximately 2,760 °C (2,623 ºC = 4,753 ºF).
The highest melting point material were found in the dust as sphericals.
Tritium could be the key smoking gun.. Marcia C.. Its another item along with high melting point sphericals.. Molybdenum spherical was found in the dust with a melting point of 2617..
"Marcia C.You're right, Daniel M. Plesse. There could have been some type of small nuclear reaction in building 6. It didn't have to be the same method for every building. It was a "good" opportunity to try out different methods of destruction for future use."
They can now partition buildings to save their cold DEW theory.
Daniel M. PlesseMarcia C. She did not admit or confess the unknown "missing source", that was from another paper not by Judy Wood.. That study was called
That study seems to do a better Job at looking at all the possibilities however they have no idea about the condition of the weapons thatwere found fused together and the body parts were mapped across Manhattan thus shows that the Tritium watches were also blasted all over lower manhattan..
Have you seen the body part map or the fused weapons?
I am not sure why so few have not seem 90% of the images from 9/11..
Dear Club Judy Wood,
What process is causing the "cheeto", "Orange" or whatever creative cereal naming schemes you choose.. Spencer Ellis can answer too..don't hide out.. or anyone else.. Please feel to join and use the keyboard..Do something.. No naming this time..
1. DEW
2. Heat
3. Glowing bacteria 4. the same effect can be seen with Hutchison's experiments
I don't care about the naming of objects.. The issue is the process..
Grappler investigation continues but I feel silly because no one can just say what they think is happening and they seem to find away to talk about side issues..i.e my believes or something else.. Creative Naming schemes.. feelings ... This is whole Judy Wood issue in a nutshell.. Naming things.. confusion..
I did some research and emailed the people who sold the machines. I emailed a bunch of people. Scotty said the photo depicts a "NYE Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple". I started with M. C. Faulkner & Sons and ended up with National Attachments in Gorham, Maine.. Bottomline "The Picture below is a "Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple". That can handle red hot molten steel."
Example #2 Tritium research ends without conclusion.. go figure ?
"Study of Traces of Tritium at the World Trade Center" already concluded the planes were not the cause,(or guns sights) "Therefore, the source term from the airplanes alone is too small toexplain the measured concentrations, and another missing source is needed."
so why did Judy just end at the exit signs. and another missing source is needed... So its weapon sights (plus the possibly tritium watches.. Weapons in WTC 6 were found fused together https://donaldfox.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/wtc6.pngThe tritium second sources possibility named watches is another silly statement because the body part map shows people were blasted all across lower Manhattan..
No special concentration of watches should exist at WTC 6..
tritium watches exist everywhere without any special connection to wtc 6. Why would tritium watches be special item. Was any watches found inside WTC 6, NO!Debris, from which tritium was slowly released in the lingering fires, a scenario would require a minimum of 120 equipped weapons (with sights) destroyed and a quantitative capturing of tritium, which is too high, since many weapons were found with only minor damage (not true see photo below) and tritium sights are shielded in a metal. Therefore, such a mechanism alone is not sufficient to account for the measured HTO concentrations. Then it says!This indicates that the weapons/watches are consistent with the missing source, which would have complemented the airplane source.
Keep adding crap until it works Photo below shows the states of the second source..
The Weapons in WTC 6 were turned into ROCKS
Then Judy just ends her tritium investigation without any conclusion and her members are well trained to accept this result..
Marcia C.Yes. She determines that the higher levels of Tritium in WTC 6 ground water did not come from the exit signs of the hijacked airplanes. The conclusion is that she doesn't know the cause of the higher Tritium levels.
Was Non-Electrical Levitation & Klystron TWTA (Tweeta's) used to craete the effects you see on 9/11? Multiple stage depressed collector (MSDC) klystron based amplifier, September 2000http://www.google.com/patents/US6552490 Transverse field collector for a traveling wave tube, September 2000http://www.google.com/patents/US5952785 Was MF GLOBAL & Jon Corzine via CME Group's EFAT (Energy Trading) on Oct 31st 2011, USED to BURY the FLYWHEEL technology and cause the bankruptcy of BEACON POWER on Sunday Oct 30th 2011, the day before? Beacon Power, like SOLYNDRA & HANERGY, had the most efficient technology in their sector, called "FREQUENCY REGULATION". Weeks earlier U.S. regulators ruled in favor of Beacon Power's technology which at the time, market did not pay companies for "efficiency" or the ability to transform mechanical energy to electrical energy at a 300% more efficient rate.
Daniel M. PlesseKeith McNamara "dynamic has ever before or since been noted by any other storm." Hmmm I wonder.. Keith McNamara these tracks all seem to match Erin and the point if this exercise..
Hurricane Tracks are public information and anyone can look and research all the tracks and see that most follow Erin's path.. The next issue is: Do broadcasters talk about these storms? The answer no.. “If it bleeds, it leads.” Often, the more lurid the story, the better its chances of topping the broadcast.. This holds true for storms too..
No High Pressure Dome from HAARP..
9/11 Survivor Shares Molten Lava Story at Ground Zero
Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple
Can handle red hot molten steel.
M. C. Faulkner & Sons
May 12 (4 days ago)
to me
I suggest you talk with National Attachments in Gorham, Maine 207-839-9999. They probably sold the Nye Grapple – Nye is located in Canada, you could talk with them also. They would have better answers than we would
Sincerely, Susan Williams M. C. Faulkner & Sons, Inc.
Dan Plesse<dan.plesse@gmail.com>
May 12 (4 days ago)
to S.
Scotty I am referring to this photograph with NYE Grapple.
Do you know if NYE had problems at the World Trade Center because the molten iron? Someone said that external custom shields might have been used to deal with this issue.. Do you have any idea? Can you ask around? Thanks
S.<ationalattachments.com>
1:53 PM (12 minutes ago)
to me
Was no issues at Ground Zero. Didn't do anything besides how we normally build them
Second Email
S. nationalattachments
1:56 PM (3 minutes ago)
to me
The Picture below is a "Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple". That can handle red hot molten steel. Did you want a Hydraulic one ? Or will one below work. Has stiff arm on backside and front moves with your bucket cylinder
Scotty,
I think the issue of "it can't be molten iron because the machines what broken down do to heat" was put to rest by the Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple.. But did they know that red hot material would be popping out before hand? Did lesser machines have to be swapped out or place on the edges or colder areas? When did the Mechanical Extreme Service Grapple arrive at GZ? Did the orders start popping up on 9/11 or sometime after.
Dan..
S <@nationalattachments.com>
2:52 PM (23 minutes ago)
to me
Didn't know till they got in there that there would be molten iron. And all 12 grapples survived. NYE was the only one not to break
Scott Guimond II
National Attachments
Sent from my iPhone
S <@nationalattachments.com>
May 13 (3 days ago)
to me
No we had 12 NYE Mechanical Extreme Service Grapples there, and of the maybe 3-4 brands that were there.
Only NYE withstood the punishment.
Smallest NYE grapple was on a EX550, biggest was EX1200.
Best Regards
S,
So NYC already had these 12 Mechanical Extreme Service Grapples in and around the city ready to go?
Dan
The 9/11 investigation continues ...Where Did The Tritium Come From? Officially its 4 exit signs plus guns which are now reside inside giant rocks which the 9/11 museums has changed the cause from compression to heat therefore the stones don't have to be taken apart to search for remains which was requested by the family members and thus denied.. Dr. Judy Wood has declared the official theory as ridiculous however also fails point to cause for Tritium, giant meteors and high melting point sphericals found in the dust or any hard evidence what-so-ever..
