Thursday, December 26, 2013

The curious Case of the Missing Flight 175 media FROM NYPD Helicopters

The curious Case of the Missing Flight 175 media FROM NYPD Helicopters

Small side note
"FBI agents, who asked him about a 2-way radio that had been found in the hotel, a radio designed for communication with aircraft

What the heck kind of radio are they talking about and do pilots have radios like this? 


 My FOIL Qwest for Any Recorded Media via  NYPD Air Units FOR Flight 175 related media.


I Emailed so far

1.  c
ityhall.nyc.gov, 2. Committee on Open Government i.e 
aaldef.org 3. 
Michael Ratner at http://lawanddisorder.org/ 4. Centre for Research on Globalization




FOIL Now and Make Sure Second Plane is Flight 175

 
Dear Michael Ratner

     I believe a FOIL request is required now for ALL the up close photographs of the second plane which might contain the tail number and other details. These photographs and video would help identify aircraft.   

FOIL  is required now because no one has seen exactly what Flight 175 should have looked like which is 50% dark blue, 45%, Gray, 5% red. 

You need to ask for a clean copy of that all photographic and video and maybe first ask for a video inventory from

NYPD Unit #3 - Tail Number N204PD
Officers Schub and Kelhetter,

NYPD Unit #6 - Tail Number N206NY
Detective Semendinger and Officer Ciccone,

NYPD Unit #12 - Tail number N412PD
 Sgt. Rowley, Detective LaGarenne, Officers Diaz and Jordan,

NYPD Unit #14  - Tail number N414PD
Officers Walsh, Hayes, Gromling, and Maier on 9/11/2001. 


So far NO  photos and videos of this flight from those Helicopters have not been released to the public. Do you think you put enough pressure on the NYPD so they can publish whatever they have. 

Thanks Dan  


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      "I believe a FOIL request is required now for ALL the up close up 
      photographs of the second plane which might contain the tail number and 
      other details. These photographs and video would help identify aircraft."
      So, what's stopping you?
      "You need to ask for..."
      "You," who?



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          So, what's stopping you?
          I think they want to get someone else to do it. So it looks like a grassroots effort or something...
          Also, IIRC some truthers already did this years ago?



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              "I think they want to get someone else to do it. So it looks like a grassroots effort or something..."
              Maybe you're right, BVH .
              I suspect that it is more a factor of laziness combined with a bone-chilling fear on their part that the release will only serve to prove what they fear the most: the "official story."
              Better to keep this all conspiratorial and the like by claiming that the pictures are being withheld by a sinister cabal.
              After all, troofers can't make money off of the "official story" being proven right... whatever it is they think is the "official story."



        Dear aaldef.org,
        So far I have

         "I request all videos and photos roll inventory from these air units 3,6,12,14 because those air units were seen in the same location as flight 175.  

        I need to ask for a clean copy of that all videoa and an video inventory  from  NYPD Unit #3 - Tail Number N204PD Officers Schub and Kelhetter, NYPD Unit #6 - Tail Number N206NY Detective Semendinger and Officer Ciccone, NYPD Unit #12 - Tail number N412PD Sgt. Rowley, Detective LaGarenne, Officers Diaz and Jordan, NYPD Unit #14  - Tail number N414PD  Officers Walsh, Hayes, Gromling, and Maier on 9/11/2001


        Thank You

        I printed out their forms.

        Can you send in my request for me? 
        WTCFOIAVideos
        +danp5648
        What footage? NYPD helicopter's 9/11 footage? It's unknown if they did capture the plane on camera. One can make a FOIA ("FOIL" in NYC) request to NYPD and ask for a clean copy of that video or ask for an video inventory first.
        To make a FOIL request, please complete the request form found below for 
        http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/legal_matters/dclm_doc_production_foil.shtml

        A clean copy of all Helicopter Aviation videos from 9/11
        https://www.muckrock.com/foi/new-york-city-17/a-clean-copy-of-all-helicopter-aviation-videos-from-911-15155/draft/


        It all rest on me.. Stay Tuned!
        Case of the Missing NYPD Helicopter Photos
        https://911conspiracy.wordpress.com/2014/08/09/case-of-the-missing-nypd-helicopter-photos/

        dos.sm.Coog.InetCoog

        Mar 6 (3 days ago)
        to me
        Thank you, but we’re an office of two people and don’t have the authority or the resources to make requests on behalf of others.  This office is charged with giving advice about how the law applies – which you’ll see in the advisory opinions available through our website.

        I just looked at the New York City Police Department’s website and I don’t see a way that a FOIL request can be submitted by email.  It looks like it has to be printed out and mailed in.  It’s clear in the law that if the agency has the ability to receive email, it must receive and respond to FOIL requests via email, but so far, no one has challenged this agency on that issue.

        Camille


        Dear Camille, 


                 Does anyone keep a record of other FOIL's requests to the NYPD, NYPO, NYFD. Maybe the request for records regarding Flight 175 has already been made and of course denied or these video and photos would have public news by now.  

        Dan 

        Can you help craft the request for records? Here is what I have now. 

        Under the provisions of the New York Freedom of Information Law, Article 6 of the Public Officers Law, I hereby request a copy of records of all portions thereof pertaining to (or containing the following) All 9/11 related Photos, Videos and Audio recorded from the NYPD Air Units on 9/11/2001. NYPD Unit 3 - Tail Number N204PD Officers Schub and Kelhetter NYPD Unit 6 - Tail Number N206NY Detective Semendinger and Officer Ciccone NYPD Unit 12 - Tail number N412PD Sgt. Rowley, Detective LaGarenne, Officers Diaz and Jordan NYPD Unit 14 - Taill number N414PD Officers Walsh, Hayes, Gromling, and Maier" with regard to Flight 175. 

        I can't imagine anyone complying because the whole point of 9/11 is complying with the story of 9/11 and revealing details of a different  airplane would send shock waves internationally. This requests is a basic attempt at pulling at a single grenade pin of largest scandal in the history of mankind. It's funny that the whole process of revealing the truth rests on shoulders of a single citizen typing away at his computer.

        NYPD Unit #3 - Tail Number N204PD Officers Schub and Kelhetter
        NYPD Unit #6 - Tail Number N206NY Detective Semendinger and Officer Ciccone
        NYPD Unit #12 - Tail number N412PD Sgt. Rowley, Detective LaGarenne, Officers Diaz and Jordan
        NYPD Unit #14  - Tail number N414PD  Officers Walsh, Hayes, Gromling, and Maier 

        e-FOIL FOIL@cityhall.nyc.gov/.

        Dear Dan Plesse:

        This email is to acknowledge receipt of your request pursuant to the Freedom of Information Law received on 2/18/2015 4:42PM, for the following records:

        "Under the provisions of the New York Freedom of Information Law, Article 6 of the Public Officers Law, I hereby request a copy of records or portions thereof pertaining to (or containing the following) All 9/11 related Photo, Videos and Audio recorded from the NYPD Air Units on 9/11/2001. NYPD Unit 3 - Tail Number N204PD Officers Schub and Kelhetter NYPD Unit 6 - Tail Number N206NY Detective Semendinger and Officer Ciccone NYPD Unit 12 - Tail number N412PD Sgt. Rowley, Detective LaGarenne, Officers Diaz and Jordan NYPD Unit 14 - Taill number N414PD Officers Walsh, Hayes, Gromling, and Maier" with regard to Flight 175. 

        Please note that although the Mayor’s Office receives a significant volume of FOIL requests, the Mayor’s Office strives to respond to all FOIL requests in a timely manner in the order in which they are received. Upon receiving a FOIL request, the Mayor’s Office endeavors to identify records responsive to your request. The time required to perform this search typically depends on the breadth of records requested. If records are identified that are potentially responsive, the Mayor’s Office must review those records to determine if any are not subject to disclosure under FOIL. For more information about what records are and are not subject to disclosure under FOIL, please see: http://www.dos.ny.gov/coog/foil2.html

        We are currently investigating your request. We will provide an estimate of when we will be able to make a determination once we assess the scope of the request. Please make a note that to check the status of your request in the future, it has been assigned tracking number 2015-0053.

        Sincerely,

        Kiren Gopal
        Special Advisor to the Counsel
        Records Access Officer

        Dear Mr./Ms. Plesse,

        This is a response to your request pursuant to the Freedom of Information Law (FOIL) received on 02/18/2015 for:

        “Under the provisions of the New York Freedom of Information Law, Article 6 of the Public Officers Law, I hereby request a copy of records or portions thereof pertaining to (or containing the following) All 9/11 related Photo, Videos and Audio from the NYPD and NYFD. NYPD Unit 3 - Tail Number N204PD Officers Schub and Kelhetter NYPD Unit 6 - Tail Number N206NY Detective Semendinger and Officer Ciccone NYPD Unit 12 - Tail number N412PD Sgt. Rowley, Detective LaGarenne, Officers Diaz and Jordan NYPD Unit 14 - Tial number N414PD Officers Walsh, Hayes, Gromling, and Maier"

        Please note that FOIL requests submitted to the Mayor’s Office are only fulfilled for records maintained by the Mayor’s Office. To seek records maintained by another agency, you must submit a FOIL request with that agency. 

        If you wish, you may file FOIL requests with the New York City Police Department (NYPD) and/or the New York City Fire Department (FDNY) at the following links:

        http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/legal_matters

        http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/after_fire/fire_records.shtml

        You may appeal this determination in writing within thirty days by addressing such an appeal to Henry Berger, Records Appeals Officer -- HBerger@cityhall.nyc.gov.

        Sincerely,

        The Office of the Mayor

        Committee on Open Government,

        dos.sm.Coog.InetCoog

        9:26 AM (4 hours ago)



        to me

        Please note that while the NYPD has a form available on its website, it is not necessary to use the form, only to make a request in writing to the address provided.  Nevertheless, yes, I will print their form and mail it to you later today, along with a sample request form that my office offers.
        You’re welcome!  Have a great day.

        Camille





        Mr. Plesse:
        You should reach out to the Committee on Open Government, which advises the public on the Freedom of Information Law.
        http://www.dos.ny.gov/coog/.
        Sample Form WRONG FORM
        Dear Mr. Plesse:


        This is in response to your request under the Freedom of Information Law (FOIL) for State Education Department (SED) records regarding 9/11 videos and audio from NYPD and FDNY.

        Please be advised that SED does not possess or maintain the records you requested.  The Freedom of Information Law does not require an agency to prepare any record not possessed or maintained by the agency (Public Officers Law Section 89[3]).  Therefore, your request is denied. 

        Every state agency or government entity handles their own FOIL requests. The State Education Department would not be the appropriate entity for your request. Your request would fall under the jurisdiction of both the NYPD and FDNY. To file a FOIL request with NYPD, go to:
        To reach the Records Access Officer at FDNY, you may call 718-999-0293 to inquire about instructions.

        I hope this information is helpful.

        Regards,
        Chris Halpin



        Amy Goodman (Social Engineered Fire Department, Amy Goodman WTC 7, 9/11 Files Susan Lindauer) was another example of a broadcaster completely escaping all 9/11 Truth activists because somehow being at WTC 7 has zero meaning whatsoever. Also not reporting anything about building 7 that day or after and keeping silent somehow makes sense too. Must be a Gatekeeper, O well. Time for sleep, good night Alex Jones, RT, whoever else.

        Judge Richard Wesley said "a trial should have been conducted to at least establish from expert testimony why Tower 7 collapsed".
        http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/12/04/court-rules-negligence-didnt-cause-world-trade-center-7-to-fall-on-911/

        Somehow most 9/11 Truth Activists pass over WTC 7 Flashes, NYPD Drone, Thermite explosions and agree with with rock formations was do to compression theory  without a second thought. How is this possible? Who are these people and what happened to my people?




        The CNN flashes are fast. I try to slow them down so everyone who has missed them before can see these flashes for the next 12+ years.  9/11 Truthers are horrified. 1. Maybe because they missing all the smoking guns 2. maybe they were never looking in the first place. 3. Maybe a little of both. What I do is find what has been missed and expose the truth... The down side is the movement is they will not see anything new or figure out a way hide it away from everyone else.  My reach is as far as my nearest disciple and that reach has been choked off by ego and infighting, backbiting, you know the drill. Welcome to a movement like no other.

         








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