Why does Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory refused to give out data on 9/11

Why does Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory refused to give out all the data on 9/11 and Why does the 9/11 Truth movement play along?

Extra dark large demarcation line question and response 

Hello-

I don't see anything strange, but you can obtain the digital waveform data at the IRIS Data Center website (www.iris.edu/data). This site is geared to scientists who use the waveform data all the time, so it may be a bit difficult to figure out.

from:		Dan Plesse <dan.plesse@gmail.com>
to:		Lisa A Wald <lisa@usgs.gov>, clryan@usgs.gov

Lisa,

    Are you saying the extra dark large demarcation line is normal? Thanks
http://s1222.photobucket.com/user/danp5648/media/LDEOEditedoutoneEarthquake61.jpg.html

Shouldn't the sentence be

"ground shaking BY the WTC towers" and not
"ground shaking OF the WTC towers"

What could be cause of shaking OF the WTC towers if the towers are the cause.

"Collapses of the two WTC towers generated large seismic waves,
observed in five states and up to 428 km away The north tower collapse
was the largest seismic source and had local magnitude ML 2.3. From

this, we infer that ground shaking OF the WTC towers was not a major

contributor to the collapse or damage to surrounding buildings."
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2001EOSTr..82..565K

 Indira Singh  9/11 surrounding buildings earthquake damage report

Dear CTBTO, Lamont Doherty Earth Observatory continues to stonewall

9/11 Earthquake epicenters and depth data was removed completely and you are never going get it!

The 9/11 book I am reading now 9/11 Deceptions Paperback by M P. Lelong  says the blast was over by WTC 6  just after the plane hit the south tower. Do anyone have an clear example of this via youtube or any video or inside the 7060 page Oral Histories PDF ? 

My main question right now is to locate the 9/11 Earthquake epicenters and depth information? Why?

Normally full longitude and latitude has two digits to the left of the period followed by 3-9 digits to the right. For Example LAT 44.916 LONG 10.934 is NORTHERN ITALY.

The only longitude and latitude provided to the public has been 40.71°N and 74.01°W
"Location of the World Trade Center is 40.71°N and 74.01°W."

No longitude and latitude data has been provided to the public at all and USGS asks you to assume the location is already known and does NOT NEED VALIDATED OR PROVEN.

"The missing Latitude and Longitude data

South Tower:
 Latitude:40.711044436950424 Longitude:-74.01313304901123

Keywords:   
6605 Education, 7219 Nuclear explosion seismology
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2002AGUFM.S11D..03K

This might have been removed

"is not possible to infer (with detail sufficient to meet the demands of civil engineers in an emergency situation) just what the near-in ground motions must have been."

"A "sharp spike of short duration" is how seismologist Thorne Lay of Univ. of California at Santa Cruz told AFP an underground nuclear explosion appears on a seismograph"

"The missing Latitude and Longitude data

South Tower:
 Latitude:40.711044436950424 Longitude:-74.01313304901123

North Tower:
 Latitude:40.71207726282092, Longitude:-74.01320815086365

WTC building 7
 Latitude:40.71319952788825, Longitude:-74.01155591011047

If you study earthquake data one thing they report on is depth. Depth is one of the biggest data points and what do we have hear is another missing and major missing data point! Why do they show the time in both UTC and EDT ??? Because the Depth column was removed and replaced by a guy who just so happens to be studing nuke, bombs and 9/11. Cover up # 5 !!

 Dimitri Khalezov detected Nuclear events on 9/11, so were is his data?

Evidence and eye witnesses have revealed through their oral testimony that seismic activity or "rumbling" happened before the towers starting down. Search the 9/11 Oral History page for more evidence.DELGADO:

there's another plane coming. So we all looked up and what we saw was tower, I guess, 2, the south tower, begin to do this [?]. The top kind of did this and there was a horrendous rumble."

"Now, your hand is showing that it's kind of tilted in one direction. What direction did it tilt? A. It was tilting towards us, so it had been to be tilting eastward. Q. East? A. Maybe southeast. I'm not sure because at this point it's total pandemonium. At that point we hear the rumble and, you know, this is it. I figure I'm dead. I thought this tower was going to topple."

7060 Page PDF torrent File
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLRWlNQlNKWkRzSWs/edit?usp=sharing

7060 Page PDF direct File
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLRWlNQlNKWkRzSWs/edit

9/11 Earthquake Data.zip
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLb042a3p2X2VqYmM/edit?usp=sharing

Does anyone know who the Finnish Military Expert is? 

9/11 Rumbling Reports and Witnesses Right Before Impact and WTC Collapse

Smithsonian blooper 9/11 Witness Rumbling Sounds right before Report 

Nuclear Demolition of the WTC Evidence Too Much Tritium

Yet Another Line of Evidence Shows Demolition

Were Explosives the Source of the Seismic Signals Emitted from New 

York on September 11, 2001?

Dear CTBTO,

        What data elements did you record on 9/11? The Seismic spikes are nuclear events which was recorded but was covered up and cover story was enacted and all seismic events were label as impacts. Even the rock formations were explained as compression event with a sign saying a lava flow created the objects by the 9/11 museum and Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory continues to stonewall.

Dear LDEO: 9/11 Earthquake epicenters Data on Depth and Location is Missing
http://investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com/2014/03/911-nuclear-explosion-seismology-and.html

Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory zip file
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLb042a3p2X2VqYmM/edit?usp=sharing

Judy Wood also believes these seismic event are impacts and most likely A&E for 9/11 Truth. Judy Wood, NIST and A&E all actually agree on something.

Karl Pavloff Dr. Rousseau is an expert on measurement of acoustic waves.

Rousseau says that the seismic waves measured on September 11th proves that the 3 buildings were brought down by controlled demolition. Specifically, in a new scientific article published by the Journal of 9/11 Studies, Rosseau writes:

The seismic signals propagating from New York on September 11, 2001, recorded at Palisades (34 km) and published by the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University (LDEO), have here been subjected to a new critical study concerning their sources. The aim of this paper is to demonstrate that the nature of the waves, their velocities, frequencies, and magnitudes invalidate the official explanations which imply as sources the percussion of the twin towers by planes and the collapses of the three buildings, WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/resources/RousseauVol34November2012.pdf

Interview 567 – Andre Rousseau on the Seismic Evidence of 9/11

http://www.globalresearch.ca/seismic-evidence-implies-controlled-demolition-on-911/5313720

• Dan Plesse For Example LAT 44.916 LONG 10.934 is NORTHERN ITALY.

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  Damian Hamill No idea what the data is or whether it is missing. Ask the seismologists. There - I have answered your question. Now you answer mine. Why is there ZERO sign of a nuclear flash? Why was there no nuclear blast? Why no radiation illness? Why did the tower...See More

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  Damian Hamill If a nuclear blast had gone off in the towers how
  Many people looking at it do you think would have lost their eyesight Dan?

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  Damian Hamill How would firefighters sitting above a nuclear explosions walk out unscathed?

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  Damian Hamill Finally, do you have a brain?

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  Damian Hamill The fact that EVERY SINGLE SIGN of a nuclear explosion was completely absent on 9/11 does not deter Dan Plesse from declaring it was a nuclear explosion on the grounds that he thinks there is some seismic data missing. This is a truly spectacular level of idiocy.

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  Dan Plesse "No idea what the data is or whether it is missing"
  
  I made a graphic for you moron.
  
  http://investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com/.../911-nuclear...
  
  Having no idea is not answer.
  

  
  

  

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Great audio. Also liked this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73eNo2UbCY8 I'm wondering why you're still pursuing this? We've already developed the complete scenario for demolishing the towers. My personal opinion, because USGS and Cahill did not provide evidence of thermite, is that Dr. Jones is part of the cover-up. He worked intimately with cold fusion and related elements. He knows what happened. He worked at DoE for a decade. You're creating great stuff Dan. I wish you well. :)

Nuclear Demolition of the WTC: Too Much Tritium i.e fission bomb yield booster

www.youtube.com

Tuesday 2:10pm

Can you ask the USGS for the depth and location data? Has anyone else thought about this missing data before?

depth and location of seismic readings?

Not the USGS. You would need to contact the Lamont-Doherty Cooperative Seismic Network. I'm sure they have that data.

Tuesday 7:06pm

Can you ask them? The point of my last article was Lamont-Doherty Cooperative Seismic Network. does have the data but will not give it out. Never published it and you will never get it. Try it. Check that out. My emails are all coming from Lamont-Doherty Cooperative Seismic Network..

Yes Depth land location of Seimic readings.

Tuesday 8:41pm

If they won't provide that data you probably know why.

I called Michael Gold at home and that didn't go over well. I'll try calling Lamont offices tomorrow.

Wednesday 12:16am

great! good luck. record it if you can.

I can't . But I'll make several calls. :)

Thursday 1:07pm

I think first someone has to produce that document, or provide a credible source for the document. A .jpg of anything isn't evidence of anything, unfortunately. The seismic evidence has verifiable sources, right? Indeed, it does.

one thing at a time :)

Here is more info http://mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/official-2001-fbi-docs-on-urban-moving.html

Zionism Stinks: The official 2001 FBI docs on Urban Moving Systems and the 9-11-2001 Dancing...

mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot.co.uk

Jeff I don't think you will get the data you are looking for and I am sure no one has though of looking for it.

Yes, I will. I know who has it and I know how to get it. It's been published too. Just takes time. These guys publish everything.

publicly

I believe so too.

So you are on the case?

sure, you should write a kind letter to Mr. Won-Young Kim at Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University 61 Route 9W, Palisades, New York 10964, U.S.A. or try calling him at (845) 365-8387 or emailing at wykim@ldeo.columbia.edu

I wouldn't mention conspiracies

Just curious for the information and can't find it when it's normally always provided

he's probably a nice guy

Thursday 4:04pm

did you just write to kim?

"Just curious for the information and can't find it when it's normally always provided" I like this!

Sounds like you found nothing

You already contacted Kim personally?

yes but he never responds

Cahill responded once

So what happened?

He only has to respond to letters. And will. And his data, or explanation for lack of it, is what you want. It'll cost you 50¢ and ride to the Post Office to get it. :)

He get's 1000s OF CALLS AND EMAILS< maybe :)

Only responds to mail

How do you know that?

I spoke to the media representative

you can even stay home and hand a letter to the postman and save on gas!!!! ;)

So you close the case by asking me to send a letter?

I expect he'll provide the data, or a link to his published papers, which I can't find, but do exist. I don't know what to look for but he's published on this in a peer reviewed journal. lol., you want me to write the letter?

YES!

OK, but it'll take me a day or two and a response could take a week or three.

or more, or less

sounds great

thanks

Chat Conversation End

Maxwell Bridges

Chat Conversation Start March 23rd, 12:10am Have you searched the 7060 pages of 9/11 Oral Histories yet? https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLcG13X0xNR3JuVHc/edit?pli=1 http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Todd_Zinser_Office_of_Inspector_General_Department_of_Commerce_Investigate_why_NIST_created_a_fraudulent_report_on_WTC7/?dUuyGcb Monday 11:55pm I downloaded them but lack the time on a computer to read them. I tried converting it for my Kindle and it kept crashing. On my to-do list. // Tuesday 10:32am I rewrote an article called USGS Data Nazi - a play on Soap Nazi. If you ask them for the Earthquake data depth and location they will reply but without the goods. Try asking them yourself and see what you get. http://investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com/2014/03/911-nuclear-explosion-seismology-and.html 9/11 Earthquake epicenters and depth data withheld | Taking back the Narrative investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com Thursday 1:51pm You wrote: "Can you ask LDEO for the depth and location data. So far got zero! Maybe its the way I ask. They say Kim has the data." I know not of what you speak, neither for LDEO nor the data. // Thursday 4:06pm Jeff Prager wrote up template body of email "Just curious for the information and can't find it when it's normally always provided" wykim@ldeo.columbia.edu or try calling him at (845) 365-8387 Thursday 6:28pm The point is, I don't know what you're talking about. I wrote about here http://investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com/2014/03/911-nuclear-explosion-seismology-and.html 9/11 Earthquake epicenters and depth data withheld | Taking back the Narrative investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com 1:13am How Did Fire Fighters fly 1306 feet on 9/11? http://investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com/2014/03/outstanding-911-questions-list.html Outstanding 9/11 Questions list | Taking back the Narrative investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com 15 minutes ago do you understand that the exact location of seismic data was never released now? I won't be back. Her unwavering support of holograms in the face of so many contradictory facts had her on my shill list since day 1 when she was getting banned from "9/11 debates." It doesn't stand up. Aircraft at the WTC wasn't even my hobby-horse, but it is the truth. Her concept of everything being planted doesn't stand up to what is possible. What she claims is impossible actually is in the realm of the possible, which physics proves. She having an BS in ME got burned pretty bad on that front. "The exact location of seismic data was never released now"? I do not follow. seismic data has geo location data up to 12 digital numbers the depth amount was also not released and you can't find 9/11 seismic data in any record with other seismic information.