Monday, October 5, 2015

Fair 9/11 Debates


  • Mike Phillipowsky
  • Mike Phillipowsky This is a group on Facebook. Not the U.N., Daniel. I'm not sure which 'higher authority' you're looking for.

    But I don't always catch everything. You know that. I'm doing the best I can with what I've got to work with.

  • Joe Haley
  • Joe Haley Dan, I am just bringing the attention to all the harassing comments you make. You're just as guilty if not more of breaking this rule. This is a debate group. We don't need comments such as "what, you can't read?" We don't need it and it's going to stop.

  • Daniel M. Plesse
  • Daniel M. Plesse Joe Haley You don't seem to understand sentences.. That's why you think my corrections are harassment because you don't seem to get concepts right.. You seem to enjoy harassing me for revenge for correcting you.. Asking people to read correctly is basic requirement and not harassment.. Your understanding of events even now seems limited and hopeless..

  • Joe Haley
  • Joe Haley Condecsending remarks removed(but I will cut and paste them) just so everyone can see what comments are invalid as far as the debate is concerned.



  • Joe Haley
  • Daniel M. Plesse
  • Daniel M. Plesse Jesus, It called a screenshot Joe Haley.. My God..Holy shit..

  • Joe Haley
  • Joe Haley Yes dan, I am aware of what is called, originally I was going to cut and paste, but I decided to screenshot instead. Hope that is OK with you.

  • Daniel M. Plesse
  • Daniel M. Plesse My god, why would you cut paste but delete my comment? That make so sense at all..


FROM NOTIFICATIONS

I banned Dan Pleese for many snarky ass comments, bending the rules to fit his own thoughts, making rules for every post and being a general ass.


Here's my theory of what happened on 911. It's going to become apparent very quickly that not only is there evidence 911 was an inside job,but that debunkers don't know how to deal with a Truther who has vetted his claims. Feel free to ask questions (be specific,please) ,good luck :
The Two Otis AFB F15s were suppose to do a patriotic flyover of NYC a few minutes AFTER WTC2 was hit so people would look up & think,"Just missed". NEADS leadership (Col. Marr) knew EXACTLY where all of the 911 airliners were with the information coming to him from his Superior Gen. Larry Arnold with whom he was in nearly constant communication. The Otis AFB F15s were Scrambled perfectly to arrive over the NYC & WTCs several minutes AFTER Flight 175 hit WTC2 IF the pilots had followed protocol & flew SUBSONIC,which they had every reason to think they would since they were suppose to think their scramble was merely a routine response to the Russian war games that morning (Supersonic flight PROHIBITED). But NORAD's leadership didn't know that the pilot (Duffy) had been tipped it was real (a hijacking) by the ATC (Bueno) who had called Otis Tower.
Once scrambled the pilots flew, "In the air before the radar kicked in","full blower all the way from take off","I was SUPERSONIC" [Quotes- Pilot Duffy] which meant they would have arrived over NYC BEFORE Flight 175 hit WTC2. NEADS Commander Col. Marr noticed & quickly had them REDIRECTED into a holding pattern over the ocean to WAIT for Flight 175 to hit. They were in that pattern when WTC2 was hit (9:03). The 911 Commission covered it up by moving the dot (location @ 9:03) on the map of the Otis fighter's flight route from it's REAL location WITHIN the holding pattern to just before the holding pattern,but now the numbers don't crunch right.
Langley's just too close to DC (6 min by F16) & they needed an excuse to send the F16's NE farther away from DC to let FL77 hit from the SW. It was suppose to be 93,but it was 40min delayed,so FAA Scoggins made up the Phantom 11 report to cover for the late 93. Col. Marr put up Langley's Supervisor of Flying Capt. Borgstrum because he would have prevented an SOP scramble & tipped the pilots to FL77 which would have them thinking there were 2 hijacked planes heading towards DC at the same time from opposite directions. That would have sent them straight to DC itself. Gen Arnold repeated original plan to the commission (Langley scrambled for 93)-[2nd public hearing 5/23/03] inadvertently confessing to 911.
The main points are: 1. The holding pattern the F15's from Otis AFB where put in ,officially claimed to have occurred between 9:08-9:13,actually occurred earlier and was made necessary because the pilots UNEXPECTEDLY flew faster than the conspirators planned.
2. The unexpected 41 minute delay of flight 93 made the 9:21 false 'phantom 11' report necessary because it was Flight 93 that the F16s from Langley were suppose to out chasing to draw them away from Washington,DC,to allow Flight 77 to hit the Pentagon.
3.Langley's Supervisor of Flying,Capt Borgstrum was ordered to fly in an UNARMED F16 to ensure there was no Supervisor of flying during the Langley scramble. This resulted in the F16 being sent out over the Atlantic and unreachable ! 
4. NORAD officials made the mistake of repeating the original plan to the 911 Commission (Langley scrambled because of Flight 93-which hadn't even been hijacked yet !). A de facto confession.

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