You can't in all honesty believe you can determine "chopper is not reacting to it at all" with the lowest resolution CNN DUB release 14 while knowing a few HIGHER versions exist which show the chopper PAUSING for a while and start flying sideways as the drone starts to fly by the towers. Next the chopper starts to following the as they BOTH pass out of frame. You have seen the higher resolution CNN versions?
Photos of black choppers again
https://photos.app.goo.gl/boaWMdBFfqv7H0U73
Photos 9/11 NYPD Chopper verses black chopper
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YjPZOSXNrFqSi2As2
Example #1
11 septembre 2001 WTC 9/11 – CNN NIST Dub #17 - RoofCam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvpwUUWEAl4&t=31s
I have no idea how two choppers at 8:56 could behave differently.
1. One chopper pausing for whole second and flying sideways
2. THe second chopper NOT pausing at all and still be the same object for you..
If objects do different things they have to be different.. It seems reasonable unless you are not seeing the details do to a bad monitor.. Maybe a high resolution monitor can you see pauses better.. Maybe its a blind spot..
Explain this too
https://photos.app.goo.gl/EyZFDB5rdUI0CB0B3
CTV 9/11 Second Plane White Mark = Not Flight 175
https://photos.app.goo.gl/v7XSwV4FbP0jGU1u2
The black chopper above the smoke and was also above the shot,
Therefore "No chopper is seen until 8:56 am." is NOT correct
We need that area covered higher up before 8:56 and better resolution.. This resolution is WORST I have ever seen..
The circling drone should seen again and again every 4 minutes or so or less I forget the minutes between 8:56:37 is the first circle..
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Qr4QBZK3WoosT1qJ2
Just enough lateral explosive force exerted on the South Tower to not only enable survival of people in South Tower Lobby but also an easy escape around the debris field before the North Tower Collapse minutes later..
""People inside the South Tower felt the floor vibrate as if a small earthquake were occurring. Instinctively, they sought shelter behind the massive pillars in the lobby, then everything went black. The vibration lasted for about 30 seconds.
The doors were knocked out, and a huge ball of flame created by the exploding diesel fuel from the building’s own supply tank shot from the elevator shaft and out the doors of the South Tower, consuming everything in its path."
Does someone know name of this witness?
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Hello Dan... That report came from people inside the lobby who successfully evacuated the building. Those who were outside the building also felt the vibration as it passed through the ground.
If I recall correctly from my master's degree classes, there were several diesel tanks stored on the building roof as a precaution following the previous bombing attempt in the underground garage. It was believed that the fuel would be safer on the roof. However, when the planes hit, their own jet fuel combined with the building's diesel supply to rain down a mixture that created an inferno. That fireball, at least in part, brought down the structure.
People died not only from the explosion and demolition, but also from less likely causes, such as concussion shock waves, which traveled into tunnels that otherwise remained relatively intact.
I hope that answers your question.
Best,
Donna Donna Maurillo<donna.maurillo@sjsu.edu>
Dan - I just went to the 9-11 museum. Have you been?
THE FIRE The fire is the most misunderstood part of the WTC collapse. Even today, the media report (and many scientists believe) that the steel melted. It is argued that the jet fuel burns very hot, especially with so much fuel present. This is not true. http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/jom/0112/eagar/eagar-0112.html
Very factual reasons how each plane took down the WTCs - "Thus, the failure of the steel was due to two factors: loss of strength due to the temperature of the fire, and loss of structural integrity due to distortion of the steel from the non-uniform temperatures in the fire." What a terrible loss!
The key to undermining these straw arguments is the molten materials displayed to the public at all museums, the missing seismic data and claims that "The Sept 11 2001 events are not in the NEIC catalog" reason the 13 stations in NYC area was "too sparse" to collect data and the military grade arson materials found in the dust.. These are more factual because you see each of items in dust samples, missing records at NEIC and molten materials at each museum. 46% of 3,100 victims were never found and the 46,000 floor trusses are missing.. Those "factual reasons" are assumptions i.e a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, but without proof or evidence..
True enough - when those buildings went down they were obliterated! So fast! I saw the buildings burn then collapse on themselves.
More interesting is the South Tower Lobby Survivors looked up and witnessed blue sky. All 110 floors above went every place but the lobby area and the same story happened in the North Tower.. If you at the bottom center of each tower you walked out, if you were any place else you went missing.. https://youtu.be/j9RsibP6vL4
""People inside the South Tower felt the floor vibrate as if a small earthquake were occurring. Instinctively, they sought shelter behind the massive pillars in the lobby, then everything went black. The vibration lasted for about 30 seconds.
The doors were knocked out, and a huge ball of flame created by the exploding diesel fuel from the building’s own supply tank shot from the elevator shaft and out the doors of the South Tower, consuming everything in its path."
""People inside the South Tower felt the floor vibrate as if a small earthquake were occurring. Instinctively, they sought shelter behind the massive pillars in the lobby, then everything went black. The vibration lasted for about 30 seconds.
The doors were knocked out, and a huge ball of flame created by the exploding diesel fuel from the building’s own supply tank shot from the elevator shaft and out the doors of the South Tower, consuming everything in its path."