“We know that the highest recorded temperatures in the twin towers were around 1800F . “ not true
“"Consequently, the museum conducted additional research, analyzing the heat levels that had created the fused material. Scientists determined that, at heat levels in excess of two thousand degrees Fa...
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“"Consequently, the museum conducted additional research, analyzing the heat levels that had created the fused material. Scientists determined that, at heat levels in excess of two thousand degrees Fahrenheit"
Omitting part of a quote from your source to provide further credence to your own theory is just as dishonest as editing your source. This was the FULL quote (capital letter is my emphasis
"The museum hired specialist to perform forensic testing and analysis of two large composites and several smaller pieces that had broken off. All tests for microscopic traces of human DNA were negative, BUT THE MUSEUM KNEW THAT THESE TESTS WERE SOMEWHAT INCOMPLETE because scientist could test only the composites outside the surface: testing the interior risked destroying the artifacts. Consequently, the museum conducted additional research, analyzing the heat levels that had created the fused material. Scientists determined that, at heat levels in excess of two thousand degrees Fahrenheit, the possibility of there being human remains withing the composites was exceedingly remote”
As you can see they were testing for human remains on the artifact and , to their own admission , their test was incomplete. Also on page 216 on the same source it said “Bits of paper and edges of filing cabinets that weren't melted poke out on the surface” So it was hot enough to fuse metal but not hot enough to burn the bits of paper? very telling! Furthermore NIST said that the highest temperature they recorded was 1800F and further stated that in normal building fires and hydrocarbons generate temperatures can be as hot as 2000 degree Fahrenheit!
“In no instance did NIST report that steel in the WTC towers melted due to the fires. The melting point of steel is about 1,500 degrees Celsius (2,800 degrees Fahrenheit). Normal building fires and hydrocarbon (e.g., jet fuel) fires generate temperatures up to about 1,100 degrees Celsius (2,000 degrees Fahrenheit). NIST reported maximum upper layer air temperatures of about 1,000 degrees Celsius (1,800 degrees Fahrenheit) in the WTC towers (for example, see NCSTAR 1, Figure 6-36).” FAQs - NIST WTC Towers Investigation
“Aluminum in molten form in air looks just like molten lead. So aluminum is out and a stupid thing to say.”
You are an imbecile! how dare you call me stupid after making such ignorant comment. Here is why you are wrong again!
"But aha!", the truther will say, "molten aluminum is silver—not bright orange!" Richard Gage, founder of Architects & Engineers For 9/11 Truth, made this observation in a lecture of his:
"We're told by NIST that this substance must be melted aluminum from the airplane. But, melted aluminum looks like melted aluminum! It's silvery. It doesn't glow in daylight conditions."
It is correct that aluminum is silver at relatively low liquid temperatures—but heat it past a certain point and it glows bright orange. An article on 911Debunkers.Blogspot concedes this, but goes on to argue that it's bright orange only within its container; once poured, it immediately silvers. AE911Truth makes the same assertion:
"Molten aluminum appears silvery when poured in daylight conditions, even if initially heated to the yellow-white temperature range in the crucible."
911Debunkers links to a video showing this to substantiate their claims. In the video, a guy heats molten aluminum to 1800*F, or almost 1000*C, and while it is bright orange within its container, it instantly turns silver when he goes to pour it.
The obvious drawback to this demonstration is that he's using a very small quantity of aluminum. This is like half a Pepsi can's worth of aluminum. It's like he found three paper clips in his desk and he's like: "Alright, time to melt these babies down and do some science!"
You can find other videos of larger quantities of molten aluminum that aren't just bright orange within their container, but remain bright orange as they're being poured. Here's a video
of an aluminum manufacturing factory, posted by LA Machines on YouTube. As we can see, the molten aluminum is a very bright orange color, and we see no signs of it turning silver as it's being poured. I mean Christ, I almost had to put on a pair of sunglasses just to watch this video!
That was another source for poured molten aluminum. Notice it’s color!. Here are more pictures of molten aluminum
“No one has done a metallurgical analyzes” We don’t need a test to know what the bright red light is and what remains in the that area. Steel was only material remaining at the core area of both towers.
there is no indication that picture was taken near the core area of any tower. Anyway Just think about what the debris pile would've looked like and consisted of. It's not like everything after collapse would be neatly partitioned, like "Over here, in this area, we have the steel, and over there, in that area, we have the aluminum." No, all of these different building components would be mixed together and intermingling.
Quote A Skeptical Human | Anton Dybal
“Number one, I've been unable to find any lab test results conclusively proving that this thing does, indeed, contain previously-molten steel. “ Yes we NOW have these test results.
“Number one, I've been unable to find any lab test results conclusively proving that this thing does, indeed, contain previously-molten steel. “ Yes we NOW have these test results.
So what does he do with these results? He conflates the search for human remains with molten steel and anything else that helps him feel better about 9/11. Its all about feelings. I am sorry your feelings are hurt, but you are WRONG and this is only one small example.
Fire Fighter Scott Schrimpe Molten North Tower Core Tower has a public display Table which shows you are wrong again!
Part #1 SOMEWHAT INCOMPLETE was about the search for human remains NOT molten steel evidence. The possible discovery of human remains is likely not possible because the heat was too high. i.e BEYOND 2,000 degrees!! Hello!!!
The fused material they did test was COMPLETE. Jerk!
The quote was about human remains and also high temperatures. "Consequently," means different topic then human remains i.e MOLTEN STEEL..
“ Consequently, the museum conducted additional research, analyzing the heat levels that material. Scientists determined that, at heat levels in excess of two thousand degrees Fahrenheit, the possibility of there being human remains withing the composites was exceedingly remote”
Part #2 I said "molten aluminum is silver—not bright orange!" Is still correct! I You are using smelting equipment or foundry equipment to show what happened on 9/11. People were NOT using smelting equipment or foundry equipment to show orange glowing objects to a camera.
Show ME or ANYONE bright orange aluminum WITHOUT using smelting equipment or foundry equipment anytime on earth. Go outside, light a fire and pile on the aluminum pipe and SHOW the results like a normal person!
Part #3 "there is no indication that picture was taken near the core area " Wrong again
The location was the core and photos are online.
Harry
The location was the core and photos are online.
Harry
Ground Zero Photographs (September-October 2001)
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Ground Zero Photographs (September-October 2001)
Ground Zero Photographs (September-October 2001)
In closing, none of what you believe is true.
“ No, all of these different building components would be mixed together and intermingling.” Nope steel was in the center. wrong!
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