Why does Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory refused to give out data on 9/11

Why does Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory refused to give out all the data on 9/11 and Why does the 9/11 Truth movement play along?

Extra dark large demarcation line question and response 

Hello-

I don't see anything strange, but you can obtain the digital waveform data at the IRIS Data Center website (www.iris.edu/data). This site is geared to scientists who use the waveform data all the time, so it may be a bit difficult to figure out.

from:		Dan Plesse <dan.plesse@gmail.com>
to:		Lisa A Wald <lisa@usgs.gov>, clryan@usgs.gov

Lisa,

    Are you saying the extra dark large demarcation line is normal? Thanks
http://s1222.photobucket.com/user/danp5648/media/LDEOEditedoutoneEarthquake61.jpg.html

Shouldn't the sentence be

"ground shaking BY the WTC towers" and not
"ground shaking OF the WTC towers"

What could be cause of shaking OF the WTC towers if the towers are the cause.

"Collapses of the two WTC towers generated large seismic waves,
observed in five states and up to 428 km away The north tower collapse
was the largest seismic source and had local magnitude ML 2.3. From

this, we infer that ground shaking OF the WTC towers was not a major

contributor to the collapse or damage to surrounding buildings."
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2001EOSTr..82..565K

 Indira Singh  9/11 surrounding buildings earthquake damage report

Dear CTBTO, Lamont Doherty Earth Observatory continues to stonewall

9/11 Earthquake epicenters and depth data was removed completely and you are never going get it!

The 9/11 book I am reading now 9/11 Deceptions Paperback by M P. Lelong  says the blast was over by WTC 6  just after the plane hit the south tower. Do anyone have an clear example of this via youtube or any video or inside the 7060 page Oral Histories PDF ? 

My main question right now is to locate the 9/11 Earthquake epicenters and depth information? Why?

Normally full longitude and latitude has two digits to the left of the period followed by 3-9 digits to the right. For Example LAT 44.916 LONG 10.934 is NORTHERN ITALY.

The only longitude and latitude provided to the public has been 40.71°N and 74.01°W
"Location of the World Trade Center is 40.71°N and 74.01°W."

No longitude and latitude data has been provided to the public at all and USGS asks you to assume the location is already known and does NOT NEED VALIDATED OR PROVEN.

"The missing Latitude and Longitude data

South Tower:
 Latitude:40.711044436950424 Longitude:-74.01313304901123

Keywords:   
6605 Education, 7219 Nuclear explosion seismology
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2002AGUFM.S11D..03K

This might have been removed

"is not possible to infer (with detail sufficient to meet the demands of civil engineers in an emergency situation) just what the near-in ground motions must have been."

"A "sharp spike of short duration" is how seismologist Thorne Lay of Univ. of California at Santa Cruz told AFP an underground nuclear explosion appears on a seismograph"

"The missing Latitude and Longitude data

South Tower:
 Latitude:40.711044436950424 Longitude:-74.01313304901123

North Tower:
 Latitude:40.71207726282092, Longitude:-74.01320815086365

WTC building 7
 Latitude:40.71319952788825, Longitude:-74.01155591011047

If you study earthquake data one thing they report on is depth. Depth is one of the biggest data points and what do we have hear is another missing and major missing data point! Why do they show the time in both UTC and EDT ??? Because the Depth column was removed and replaced by a guy who just so happens to be studing nuke, bombs and 9/11. Cover up # 5 !!

 Dimitri Khalezov detected Nuclear events on 9/11, so were is his data?

Evidence and eye witnesses have revealed through their oral testimony that seismic activity or "rumbling" happened before the towers starting down. Search the 9/11 Oral History page for more evidence.DELGADO:

there's another plane coming. So we all looked up and what we saw was tower, I guess, 2, the south tower, begin to do this [?]. The top kind of did this and there was a horrendous rumble."

"Now, your hand is showing that it's kind of tilted in one direction. What direction did it tilt? A. It was tilting towards us, so it had been to be tilting eastward. Q. East? A. Maybe southeast. I'm not sure because at this point it's total pandemonium. At that point we hear the rumble and, you know, this is it. I figure I'm dead. I thought this tower was going to topple."

7060 Page PDF torrent File
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLRWlNQlNKWkRzSWs/edit?usp=sharing

7060 Page PDF direct File
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLRWlNQlNKWkRzSWs/edit

9/11 Earthquake Data.zip
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLb042a3p2X2VqYmM/edit?usp=sharing

Does anyone know who the Finnish Military Expert is? 

9/11 Rumbling Reports and Witnesses Right Before Impact and WTC Collapse

Smithsonian blooper 9/11 Witness Rumbling Sounds right before Report 

Nuclear Demolition of the WTC Evidence Too Much Tritium

Yet Another Line of Evidence Shows Demolition

Were Explosives the Source of the Seismic Signals Emitted from New 

York on September 11, 2001?

Dear CTBTO,

        What data elements did you record on 9/11? The Seismic spikes are nuclear events which was recorded but was covered up and cover story was enacted and all seismic events were label as impacts. Even the rock formations were explained as compression event with a sign saying a lava flow created the objects by the 9/11 museum and Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory continues to stonewall.

Dear LDEO: 9/11 Earthquake epicenters Data on Depth and Location is Missing
http://investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com/2014/03/911-nuclear-explosion-seismology-and.html

Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory zip file
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLb042a3p2X2VqYmM/edit?usp=sharing

Judy Wood also believes these seismic event are impacts and most likely A&E for 9/11 Truth. Judy Wood, NIST and A&E all actually agree on something.

Karl Pavloff Dr. Rousseau is an expert on measurement of acoustic waves.

Rousseau says that the seismic waves measured on September 11th proves that the 3 buildings were brought down by controlled demolition. Specifically, in a new scientific article published by the Journal of 9/11 Studies, Rosseau writes:

The seismic signals propagating from New York on September 11, 2001, recorded at Palisades (34 km) and published by the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University (LDEO), have here been subjected to a new critical study concerning their sources. The aim of this paper is to demonstrate that the nature of the waves, their velocities, frequencies, and magnitudes invalidate the official explanations which imply as sources the percussion of the twin towers by planes and the collapses of the three buildings, WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/resources/RousseauVol34November2012.pdf

Interview 567 – Andre Rousseau on the Seismic Evidence of 9/11

http://www.globalresearch.ca/seismic-evidence-implies-controlled-demolition-on-911/5313720

• Dan Plesse For Example LAT 44.916 LONG 10.934 is NORTHERN ITALY.

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  Damian Hamill No idea what the data is or whether it is missing. Ask the seismologists. There - I have answered your question. Now you answer mine. Why is there ZERO sign of a nuclear flash? Why was there no nuclear blast? Why no radiation illness? Why did the tower...See More

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  Damian Hamill If a nuclear blast had gone off in the towers how
  Many people looking at it do you think would have lost their eyesight Dan?

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  Damian Hamill How would firefighters sitting above a nuclear explosions walk out unscathed?

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  Damian Hamill Finally, do you have a brain?

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  Damian Hamill The fact that EVERY SINGLE SIGN of a nuclear explosion was completely absent on 9/11 does not deter Dan Plesse from declaring it was a nuclear explosion on the grounds that he thinks there is some seismic data missing. This is a truly spectacular level of idiocy.

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  Dan Plesse "No idea what the data is or whether it is missing"
  
  I made a graphic for you moron.
  
  http://investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com/.../911-nuclear...
  
  Having no idea is not answer.
  

  
  

  

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Great audio. Also liked this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73eNo2UbCY8 I'm wondering why you're still pursuing this? We've already developed the complete scenario for demolishing the towers. My personal opinion, because USGS and Cahill did not provide evidence of thermite, is that Dr. Jones is part of the cover-up. He worked intimately with cold fusion and related elements. He knows what happened. He worked at DoE for a decade. You're creating great stuff Dan. I wish you well. :)

Nuclear Demolition of the WTC: Too Much Tritium i.e fission bomb yield booster

www.youtube.com

Tuesday 2:10pm

Can you ask the USGS for the depth and location data? Has anyone else thought about this missing data before?

depth and location of seismic readings?

Not the USGS. You would need to contact the Lamont-Doherty Cooperative Seismic Network. I'm sure they have that data.

Tuesday 7:06pm

Can you ask them? The point of my last article was Lamont-Doherty Cooperative Seismic Network. does have the data but will not give it out. Never published it and you will never get it. Try it. Check that out. My emails are all coming from Lamont-Doherty Cooperative Seismic Network..

Yes Depth land location of Seimic readings.

Tuesday 8:41pm

If they won't provide that data you probably know why.

I called Michael Gold at home and that didn't go over well. I'll try calling Lamont offices tomorrow.

Wednesday 12:16am

great! good luck. record it if you can.

I can't . But I'll make several calls. :)

Thursday 1:07pm

I think first someone has to produce that document, or provide a credible source for the document. A .jpg of anything isn't evidence of anything, unfortunately. The seismic evidence has verifiable sources, right? Indeed, it does.

one thing at a time :)

Here is more info http://mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/official-2001-fbi-docs-on-urban-moving.html

Zionism Stinks: The official 2001 FBI docs on Urban Moving Systems and the 9-11-2001 Dancing...

mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot.co.uk

Jeff I don't think you will get the data you are looking for and I am sure no one has though of looking for it.

Yes, I will. I know who has it and I know how to get it. It's been published too. Just takes time. These guys publish everything.

publicly

I believe so too.

So you are on the case?

sure, you should write a kind letter to Mr. Won-Young Kim at Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University 61 Route 9W, Palisades, New York 10964, U.S.A. or try calling him at (845) 365-8387 or emailing at wykim@ldeo.columbia.edu

I wouldn't mention conspiracies

Just curious for the information and can't find it when it's normally always provided

he's probably a nice guy

Thursday 4:04pm

did you just write to kim?

"Just curious for the information and can't find it when it's normally always provided" I like this!

Sounds like you found nothing

You already contacted Kim personally?

yes but he never responds

Cahill responded once

So what happened?

He only has to respond to letters. And will. And his data, or explanation for lack of it, is what you want. It'll cost you 50¢ and ride to the Post Office to get it. :)

He get's 1000s OF CALLS AND EMAILS< maybe :)

Only responds to mail

How do you know that?

I spoke to the media representative

you can even stay home and hand a letter to the postman and save on gas!!!! ;)

So you close the case by asking me to send a letter?

I expect he'll provide the data, or a link to his published papers, which I can't find, but do exist. I don't know what to look for but he's published on this in a peer reviewed journal. lol., you want me to write the letter?

YES!

OK, but it'll take me a day or two and a response could take a week or three.

or more, or less

sounds great

thanks

Chat Conversation End

Maxwell Bridges

Chat Conversation Start March 23rd, 12:10am Have you searched the 7060 pages of 9/11 Oral Histories yet? https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLcG13X0xNR3JuVHc/edit?pli=1 http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Todd_Zinser_Office_of_Inspector_General_Department_of_Commerce_Investigate_why_NIST_created_a_fraudulent_report_on_WTC7/?dUuyGcb Monday 11:55pm I downloaded them but lack the time on a computer to read them. I tried converting it for my Kindle and it kept crashing. On my to-do list. // Tuesday 10:32am I rewrote an article called USGS Data Nazi - a play on Soap Nazi. If you ask them for the Earthquake data depth and location they will reply but without the goods. Try asking them yourself and see what you get. http://investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com/2014/03/911-nuclear-explosion-seismology-and.html 9/11 Earthquake epicenters and depth data withheld | Taking back the Narrative investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com Thursday 1:51pm You wrote: "Can you ask LDEO for the depth and location data. So far got zero! Maybe its the way I ask. They say Kim has the data." I know not of what you speak, neither for LDEO nor the data. // Thursday 4:06pm Jeff Prager wrote up template body of email "Just curious for the information and can't find it when it's normally always provided" wykim@ldeo.columbia.edu or try calling him at (845) 365-8387 Thursday 6:28pm The point is, I don't know what you're talking about. I wrote about here http://investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com/2014/03/911-nuclear-explosion-seismology-and.html 9/11 Earthquake epicenters and depth data withheld | Taking back the Narrative investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com 1:13am How Did Fire Fighters fly 1306 feet on 9/11? http://investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com/2014/03/outstanding-911-questions-list.html Outstanding 9/11 Questions list | Taking back the Narrative investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com 15 minutes ago do you understand that the exact location of seismic data was never released now? I won't be back. Her unwavering support of holograms in the face of so many contradictory facts had her on my shill list since day 1 when she was getting banned from "9/11 debates." It doesn't stand up. Aircraft at the WTC wasn't even my hobby-horse, but it is the truth. Her concept of everything being planted doesn't stand up to what is possible. What she claims is impossible actually is in the realm of the possible, which physics proves. She having an BS in ME got burned pretty bad on that front. "The exact location of seismic data was never released now"? I do not follow. seismic data has geo location data up to 12 digital numbers the depth amount was also not released and you can't find 9/11 seismic data in any record with other seismic information.

9/11 Single File PDF of Oral histories by the New York Times

Version 1 9/11 Single file 7060 Pages of Oral histories
Version 2 9/11 Single file 7060 pages  9/11 Oral Histories

The oral histories "did people see 2nd plane" results
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=134&Itemid=60

Andrew Johnson Jim Fetzer podcast 9/11 Oral History podcast 

Version 2 file size 9/11 7060 Pages of Oral histories 64540kb

• http://investingnideas.com/7060_Pages_Oral_histories_Version2_64540kb.pdf
  
• Maxwell Bridges Dear Mr. Plesse,
  
  In the Norma & Maxwell show from last week, I did indeed look into the oral histories.
  
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  I haven't read the 7,060 pages of oral histories of 9/11. However, when I insert "plane parts" into the PDF search of this file, I get this list of first-responders who mentioned seeing plane parts: T. Fitzpatrick, M. Delgado, M. Guttenberg, S. Gregory, S. Hess, Wernick, J. Drury, J. Gombo, G. DeSimone, R. Goldbach, F. Gribbon, L. Tierney, K. Zarr, J. Chiafari, K. Martin, M. Hazel, T. Smith, R. Saulle, R. Norris, and T. Brown.
  
  Is Ms. Rae accusing all of these first responders as being liars or the perpetrators? Is Ms. Rae suggesting that these witnesses were triggered into associating observed debris with airplanes because "plane parts" was dropped by the interviewers in stilted questions?

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  Dan Plesse Maxwell Bridges Holy crap those are good results. The copy I just downloaded for a test was not working at all.
  
  The copy of the PDF I downloaded should have just played a rick roll video.

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Useful for searches across all the 9/11 the oral history PDF's. 

search results keyword "rumble"

"I hear the rumble, and I heard a rumble that we thought was another plane. That's what immediately everyone said, there's a plane 15 M. DELGADO coming, there's another plane coming. So we all looked up and what we saw was tower, I guess, 2, the south tower, begin to do this [?]. The top kind of did this and there was a horrendous rumble."

"Now, your hand is showing that it's kind of tilted in one direction. What direction did it tilt? A. It was tilting towards us, so it had been to be tilting eastward. Q. East? A. Maybe southeast. I'm not sure because at this point it's total pandemonium. At that point we hear the rumble and, you know, this is it. I figure I'm dead. I thought this tower was going to topple."

7060 Page PDF torrent File
http://investingnideas.com/oral_histories_7060_pages.pdf

7060 Page PDF direct File
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLRWlNQlNKWkRzSWs/edit

PATH Train dispatcher for the E Train heard this Rumble 9/11 1010 Wins 1:04 Mark

I searched and did not download the PDF.

"airplane parts"

http://investingnideas.com/oral_histories_7060_pages.pdf

GREGORY

I was listening to the tape this morning of the people calling up and they were describing the plane that hit the building. Actually, so many people saw it. They actually described the plane as it came in. They said it was a military-type plane and it was green and it was this. I mean, I never saw the color of the plane.
http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/Gregory_Stephen.txt

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East Harlem explosion registers

East Harlem explosion registers on earthquake seismograph
According to the Columbia’s Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, the explosion registered a magnitude .5 and matches 9/11 WTC 7 earthquake.

Read more: http://pix11.com/2014/03/12/east-harlem-explosion-registers-on-earthquake-seismograph

Matches 9/11 blast WTC 7 Blast

Earle, Paul USGS Jun 18 to me

Good morning Dan,

As I mentioned in my last e-mail, I have not done any work on the 9/11 explosions. Retrieving and analyzing these data would take considerable time and has been done by another researcher (Kim). I do not plan to follow up on this. A large archive of seismic data can be found here: http://www.iris.edu/dms/nodes/dmc/data/types/waveform-data/ perhaps the data you are looking for is there. I'm sorry I do not have time to explain how to analyses and process these data.

Given the small coupling of seismic waves into the ground from non-buried surface exposions, I do not think any more useful information can be extracted from them.

World Trade Center Some New Chemicals fused iron spheres

Some New Chemicals fused iron spheres were Mentioned by Dr. Cahill

My Private Emails Steven Dutch ,Noam Chomsky and FEMA Jim 

From: Dan Plesse [dan.xxxx@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:24 PM
To: Dutch, Steven
Subject: So What happened to real scientists on 9/11?

So What happened to real scientists?

Some New Chemicals were Mentioned by Dr. Cahill Such as Fused iron Spheres

(Exposing Dave Thomas, Ryan Mackey, Sergei Dudarev and Zdenek Bazant as Moon bat Crazy)

1.  Scientist Sergei Dudarev, : "Unusual Magnetic Forces" Caused Twin Towers Collapse
2. Dave Thomas and  Judy Wood theory of thermite creation: Just Pure Happenstance.
3. 9/11 Dr. Cahill Iron found in the air! and not reported
4. MIT Pancake Theory,  
5.  (Purdue's) "Flash Flood Theory" liquid did it.
6. Steel grew and the building fell theory. NIST
7. Steel floor(s) bent or bowed down and the building fell theory NIST
8. Zdenek Bazant PhD's "Pile Driver" Theory
9.  Dean Warwick Global Infrasound Caused Twin Towers Collapse
10. NASA's Ryan Mackey says 9/11 Pile Driver Theory could be a solid or a liquid.
11. Judy Wood's Electromagnetic Beams Common Knowledge at Aquiess
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn1JkRxBDS0





He does not answer.

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Dutch, Steven <dutchs@uwgb.edu> wrote:

So you have no personal experience to justify believing in conspiracies. Also you have no problem accepting reports of the towers being brought down by aircraft as truth. Right?

Steve Dutch

Reply:

Sorry about your survey not going well. Reporting as things actually happened should not be defined as anything but telling truth. So no I am not going to answer your survey question. 

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Dutch, Steven <dutchs@uwgb.edu> wrote:
So you believe there was a conspiracy to bring down the twin towers. What personal, first-hand basis do you have for believing that plots like this exist? Not what you read, not what someone told you, not how you fit things together, but actual, personal experience or observation that there are plots like this in the world. You choose to believe the interpretations of 9/11 in terms of controlled demolition or particle beams. Why? What experience have you had to convince you the world works this way?

I could see if you'd been framed for a crime you didn't commit, or had a bad tour in 'Nam where you say reports being falsified, but so far I have asked this question at every opportunity, and I have not found a single person - not one - who can tell me any experience they personally have had with a conspiracy on this scale, or any personal experience that justifies such beliefs. Most, I'd be willing to bet, have never faced a single moment of real danger or discomfort in their whole lives.

Steve Dutch
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Dutch, Steven <dutchs@uwgb.edu> wrote:
Well, that's interesting, but you didn't answer my question. What personal experience have you had that leads you to take conspiracies seriously? I mean, have you ever had a personal experience other than hearsay? I hear all kinds of babble after major events, but I simply assume most of it is people repeating misinformation to fill air time.

Steve Dutch
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Dutch, Steven <dutchs@uwgb.edu> wrote: So malfunctioning electrical equipment = a plot to bring down the twin towers? Has there actually been a catastrophic electrical failure at SUNY Stony Brook?

What's really funny is conspiracy believers miss the real conspiracies. Listen to the commercials on any talk show that deals in them, Or the ads on conspiratorial web sites. Fly-by-night diet and medical fads, dubious investments, questionably legal tax-avoidance schemes. Who stands to profit from 9-11? Follow the money.

9-11 truthers tend to be far left like Cynthia McKinney or libertarian. (Tend, not invariably). I'm going to guess you're libertarian. So I challenge you to contact Ron Paul or some other major libertarian figures and ask them specifically what they plan to do to protect individuals from abuse by powerful private sector interests. What do they plan to do to shut down bogus RIAA lawsuits, patent and copyright trolls, etc.? Since these reforms don't require any major restructuring of the Government, they could be enacted right now. So ask them what laws they have introduced. Ask them what laws they plan to introduce. My guess is none.

Steve Dutch

U.S. General Admits to Remote Control of Airliners Could Also Confirm 9/11 Drone Photos

People are saying that Flight 370 was remotely hijacked otherwise I would have never known about these  "Bush administration" comments of remote technology which was made available via the  lone gunman 9/11 predictive programming episode.
Oct 2001 = Another technology that the Bush administration is keen to probe would permit an air traffic controller to take over a distressed aircraft and land it by remote control. pg 3
http://www.willis.com/documents/publications/Industries/Aerospace/GAB+-04_10_2001.PDF

U.S. General Admits to Remote Control of Airliners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHrcdihDW_0

Photo Forensics: 9/11 NYPD Drone for Lazy People | Taking back the Narrative
http://investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com/2014/02/photo-forensics-911-nypd-drone-for-lazy.html

9 11 Jumper photo under 1400% magnification turns into CIA Drone NIST NYPD FOIA

9/11 Roll #3 1.jpg 9/11 NYPD Drone 911 Photo of smoking gun small jet plane military
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLMkFaWE45bGZsVjQ/edit


http://s1222.photobucket.com/user/danp5648/media/nypdDrone2.jpg.html

Operation TRIPOD Giuliani The equipment was already there at (Pier 92) WNYC

Operation TRIPOD Giuliani The equipment was already there (Pier 92) WNYC

Dear Kirk (mouth piece for the government) Mitchell,

While reading your book "The Spin Doctor" I found some ironic statements as far as spin goes on page 246 regarding the NTSB and FBI. For one the Black Box Signal was reported to be broadcasting i.e
NY Document reporting the Black Box signal was located here http://goo.gl/fRzvRa

On Page 261 you quoted without correction four black boxes while the amount should have been two with a total four functions.

On Page 260 you failed to name of the drill operation TRIPOD. New York City Office of Emergency Management (OEM) by the way was located in WTC 7 and was evacuated to (pier 92) early and then "pulled" at 5:20 pm on 9/11.

TRIPOD exercise is supported by "The Office of Justice Programs, through the Office for Domestic Preparedness". The Office for Domestic Preparedness was the effort assigned to Dick Cheney by George W. Bush on May 8, 2001.

9/11 Commission Hearings Special Coverage from WNYC
Giuliani "The equipment was already there (Pier 92), so we were able to establish a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center. "

There could have been a separate FEMA team for the scheduled 9/12 bioterror drill and another earlier team for September 10th, or 11th , a drill which we have learned is named Operation TRIPOD. It seems that prior to the Giuliani testimony there has been scant mentioning of the bioterror drill.

You spin was "It was cancelled" however the drill was management of a disaster from "point B" i.e first-ever Trial Point of Dispensing (a) drill and most likely the reason for source of all the anthrax rumors on 9/11.

NEW YORK CITY OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HOLDS TRIAL POINT-OF-DISPENSING DRILL (TRIPOD)

Drill for Distribution of Medication In the Event a Biological Attack Had Been Scheduled for September 12, 2001
http://www.nyc.gov/html/oem/html/news/02_05_22_tripod.shtml

Black box follow up:
http://s1222.photobucket.com/user/danp5648/media/BlackBoxFollowup3_08_2014.jpg.html

http://goo.gl/fRzvRa

My Email to FEMA  Jim Chestnut about thermite explosions which where filmed.
http://goo.gl/rgTnlt

Again he creates his own spin based on what he can see, basically claiming blindness to avoid the truth and seeing a thermitic reaction.

Page 259 "No audio from the video that recorded the collapse registered any such burst of sound and no witness came forward claiming they heard an explosion" Again more spin.

1. First NIST never asked the public to come forward.
2. Witnesses were record on national broadcast 1010 Wins reporting hearing explosions and seeing WTC 7 exploding
3  New York University medical student with the name Daryl, interviewed on 1010 WINS
Starts at 1:16:00 Witnessed and broadcast what he saw http://goo.gl/MZ1Uxk 



4. Amy Goodman Filmed at WTC 7 during a period the sound and video of WTC 7 during collapse initiation and the video was edited with sound removed.
Amy Goodman says she was NOT at WTC 7  http://goo.gl/NX7vnQ



So just who is spinning Kirk?

9/11 Why Nuclear and Why Not Conventional

 

 

Keith Kampschaefer 9/11 Truth Movement - All Theories Welcomed

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Some of you know I am strongly supportive of the conventional, controlled demolition theory with the footnote, "some 'behind the counter' technologies or concoctions used." I hope you'll share this with with as many as you can and inviting explosives experts, both military and industrial to the conversation. Let's keep the heat on these 2nd generation 'paperclip' scientist who committed this atrocity of the ages. Thanks folks. Keith

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  Atahan Ganduu Wait, who?

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  Keith Kampschaefer The biggest problem I have with Nuclear weapons is the radioactive contamination that it leaves behind. Calvin Raven Eagle do you have anything that would explain how they could have use nukes and not receive and uprising about radiation levels?

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  Atahan Ganduu Wait who are we talking about and what did they do?

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  Keith Kampschaefer No, and I have NOT read your MOUNTAIN data regarding your hypothesis. Is everything piled high to be considered equitable content?

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  Atahan Ganduu I just wish I knew what you are talking about

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  Keith Kampschaefer If you have a comment addressed to someone specific, please include at least a first name to cut down of the confusion of who is taking who. Thank you. I assumed Calvin was talking to me after i asked about nuclear radiation. I don't think the radiation part was answered unless I missed something.

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  Tracy Lowtemp Blevins I myself swallowed and breathed a lot of the WTC fumes, and I don't have cancer. And cancer rates are not skyrocketing in the Ground Zero neighborhood. This is because inhaling iron particles doesn't give you cancer. It gives you scarred lungs.

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  Kim Mantenga I like that OP Keith Kampschaefer. I'm with you !

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  Maxwell Bridges Dear Mr. Keith Kampschaefer,
  
  Conventional controlled demolitions have several issues in being able to account for the evidence.
  
  First of all, destruction is one level of planning and implementation, while "overkill pulverization" is another and is a logistics hurdle in the short time bomb-sniffing dogs took holidays in the days preceding 9/11.
  
  Second, the brisance (Brisance is the shattering capability of a high explosive, determined mainly by its detonation pressure) to achieve such pulverization from chemical-based explosives and incendiaries would have very loud. A nugget of truth from Dr. Sunder of NIST is that such would have been deafening at 1/2 a mile, yet we have no reports of survivors and witnesses suffering damaging hearing loss.
  
  Third, the duration of under-rubble hot-spots need to be accounted for. Sure, the 200,000 gallons of diesel fuel under the towers was available, but there's a contradiction between alleged heat and fresh air sources under the pile and how long it could burn so reportedly hot. The presence of unspent-from-original-purposes chemical-based explosives/incendiaries does not mathematically extend how long improbable diesel-fueled fires burned.
  
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