Tuesday, April 8, 2014

The New York Times 9-11 Oral Redacted Histories

disintegrated

"She said the ambulance disintegrated."

Oral Histories All PDF's

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLcG13X0xNR3JuVHc/view?usp=sharing

"Why are so many histories severely redacted?
1. Take Rene Davila for instance (File No: 9110075)-- almost ten pages of redacted testimony.
2. Take Ronald Coyne (File No: 9110395)-- about four pages of redactions.
3. Take John Coyle (File No: 9110406)-- a paragraph completely redacted."
http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2007/11/why-so-many-redacted-911-wtc-oral.html

New York Court of Appeals heard oral argument in the matter of The New York Times Company v. City of New York Fire Department.

The New York Times Company v. City of New York Fire Department 2005 New York Court of Appeals


OVERALL, a very large percentage of these reports have major redactions.What are they hiding from us?? They aren't taking out gruesome descriptions, or reports of explosions-- because these are left in.They aren't taking out names.I can only imagine that mostly they are taking out the most highly incriminating testimony that tells of the towers being blown up-- quite possibly to all matters relating to nukes.

http://www.nycourts.gov/ctapps/decisions/mar05/13opn05.pdf

The appeal court ruled that the Fire Department would be given the opportunity to show the trial court portions of the oral histories that should not be disclosed because they would "cause serious pain or embarrassment to interviewees if they were disclosed."

Apparently the trial court ruled that many portions met that standard. We will never know what they said and why it would cause serious pain or embarrassment.

Page 15 of 22 of the opinion is where that was said.

Here's a paper on the case.

http://www.citylaw.org/studentcomments/Published%20Version.doc

The 911 calls and dispatch calls were also protected from full disclosure. If there had been a real investigation I could perhaps see this, but since local, state and federal law enforcement have not done real criminal investigations, and the people need the information to do what the authorities have failed to do, the ruling is wrong.

There's no telling what has been covered up but we have every reason to suspect that statements inconsistent with the official story would be redacted for that reason.

WORLD TRADE CENTER  TASK FORCE  INTERVIEW 
RICHARD ERDEY 
Interview Date:  October 10, 2001 
Transcribed by Nancy

WORLD TRADE CENTER TASK FORCE INTERVIEW 
PARAMEDIC MARK HARRIS 
Interview Date: October 11, 2001
Transcribed by Elisabeth F. Nason




Mark Harris
WORLD TRADE CENTER TASK FORCE INTERVIEW
EMT EDWARD MARTINEZ
INTERVIEW DATE JANUARY 24 2002
TRANSCRIBED BY ELISABETH NASON page 6875




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G. ASAEDA Page 889

WORLD TRADE CENTER TASK FORCE INTERVIEW 
EMT PATRICIA ONDROVIC 
Interview Date:  October 1 1, 200 1


WORLD TRADE CENTER TASK FORCE INTERVIEW
EMT STEPHEN HESS
Transcribed by Elisabeth F. Nason




WORLD TRADE CENTER TASK FORCE INTERVIEW
EMT DULCE McCORVEY
Interview Date: October 3, 2001
Transcribed by Laurie A. Collins

https://archive.org/stream/911OralHistoryProject-AllTestimoniesInOneSearchablePdf/911truthFull#page/n155/mode/2up


Saturday, April 5, 2014

The Pros and Cons of Judy Wood

                        The Pros and Cons of Judy Wood



I'd like to get people's opinions about Dr. Judy Wood's theory of directed energy being responsible for WTC buildings rather than thermite/thermate.
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  • Norma Rae Imo, they an advanced weapon to turn most of the internal guts to dust. Otherwise, one would expect a tall pile in the middle consisting of the core columns. There were 47 core columns per floor. Multiply that by 110, that makes 5170 core columns. The concrete floors would have crushed further down and we would see a visible pileup in the middle. It simply wasn't there.

    Was it DEW? I don't know. It seems very plausible that it was something with frequencies that we couldn't see that caused the demise. It's hard to say exactly what they used since we aren't privy to all their top secret technologies.

    As far as Thermite, I do believe that they used redundancy in their execution. I think the thermite or some explosive/squibs ensured that the collapse would occur vertically.
  • Dan Plesse The problem is Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory refuses the release their location and depth data and because the top tier 9/11 snakes colluded with the criminals, 99.9% 9/11 Truth Sheep also have no idea what data is missing or what the problem is. Dr. Judy Wood's theory maybe sound but she never bothered to look at samples or write a scientific paper or show evidence beyond making general statements. The same general statements appeared on National Television and she believes that these National News reports strengthens her argument. If the news organizations never said anything, Dr. Judy Wood wouldn't be around at all.


Judy Wood Pro's

1. Stairwell B
2. Reminder of the News
      A. dustified objects
           1. New York State Museum online version
               "No recognizable desks, file cabinets, chairs or computer terminals for the many
                 thousands of workers employed in the twin towers (WTC 7, WTC 3,4,5,6? ) were ever
                 found!!!
      B. burned car photos
      C. PATRICIA ONDROVIC's eyewitness account of anomalies such as spontaneous, combustion
3. Hurricane Erin 2001

Judy Wood Con's

1. Seek and destroy Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth at all costs
     A. No HTA Arson or heat
          1. No history HTA Arson by insurance carriers using thermite
              a. Erik Larson, "High-Heat Arson Fires Swiftly Raze Buildings But Leave Few  
                  Clues,"   Wall Street Journal, October 7, 1993, A1.
              b. Unsolved Mysteries' TVshow 'King of Arsonist"
              c. Windsor Tower Madrid WAS HTA Arson
     B. No Explosions
          1. 7060 Page New York Times Oral History word count
2. Don't do hard science. Dust and samples. Air reports.
3. random creation of thermite theory
4. Pancake theory to explain rock formations.
5. Never shows contradictory evidence.
6. unknown undefined source
     A. 9/11 Scientist Sergei Dudarev, : "Unusual Magnetic Forces" caused the collapse
     B. Dean Warwick 9/11 Space Beam 
7 . Earth's magnetic field “dip” on September 11, 2001?





Judy Wood NIST Agreement list
1. Seismic activity was from non dustified objects
2. Rock formations was from falling non dustified objects
  • Tracy Blevins I have given you the images that I'm prepared to give you. In the future, I will have better images.
  • Dan Plesse Hopefully you can cut open your samples. so we can see what the insides look like.
  • Dan Plesse My sample shattered on impact because gas pressure was inside the object still. The top half is still missing.

    I should reurn and continue to look but it could have turned back into dust or something.

    Still zero interests from the truth movement at looking at these samples.
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    • Tracy Blevins Isn't that interesting? Early on, everyone was desperate for the dust. After the thermite theory came out, everyone now thinks they already know what happened, so the inquiry basically stopped.
    • Dan Plesse It could be some form of strange conditioning which everyone seems to be effected by and thus everyone turns into a broken record of some kind.

  • Dan Plesse Atahan Ganduu Why don't you form you own option? For now on I am NOT going to reply to Judy Wood concepts. She also uses compression theory for the rock formations for when the building does hit the ground so she uses whatever she feels like. She knows that parts seismic data are missing and so do you and time elements were faked. For all the belief in fake evidence why do Wood's followers believe in seismic data so much? Why did NIST report talk about the seismic data? Why do so many 9/11 not know about the missing seismic data?

    Wood's and the official theory agree on too many points and her followers borrow too many debunked concepts i.e body part were flowing in around buildings with the dust.

    Outstanding 9/11 Questions List
    http://investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com/.../outstanding...

  • Atahan Ganduu Discussing the pros and cons of researchers is a distraction away from discussing evidence of what happened on 9-11
  • Dan Plesse Atahan Ganduu The Pro Cons discusses the evidence and in context of who believes what, when and why. Because Woods agrees too much with NIST via 1. Both don't use results from Dr. Cahill 2. No explosion witnesses 3. HTA arson evidence is normal or does not exist and only plays with photos and never sight sources i.e PATRICIA ONDROVIC's eyewitness account of anomalies such as spontaneous, combustion I would not keep sighting her work mindlessly like a drone. That my friend is a waste of time. You seem to be worst offender on facebook, so can you please stop. Thanks!
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Tuesday, April 1, 2014

9/11 Drone Photo Radar Request Sent

Drone Photo Radar Request to 9/11 Maps Vincent
Goal connect radar data to the plane in the photo.

So here is my 9/11 Drone Photo Radar Request

I need this plane location on radar, if you find it. I have defined it as a drone.
I made many videos about this too.

Video of Photo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAAuQXwbpbY

Police NYPD Photo FOIA
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLMkFaWE45bGZsVjQ/edit?usp=sharing

other drones or the same one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1yQfgEElmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAptfuPr4_w

Piper Cub At WTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5aID31Lvlw

NYPD Chopper too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnP29vCUeLA

I would like to know where this chopper was in relation to "Flight 175"

thanks
Does the Red Circle mean the location of Flight 175? Or Sending location?
Does Jerry get a reply back?

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On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Vincent MOREAU <vinzmoreau@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dan,

I mapped the 4 pdf files for each airplane: 
  • 1 DCC 1739 Radar Track Data AAL77 Radar Track.pdf
  • 2 DCC 1738 Radar Track Data UAL93 Radar Track.pdf
  • 3 DCC 1740 Radar Track Data AAL11 Radar Track.pdf
  • 4 DCC 1737 Radar Track Data UAL175 Radar Track.pdf
As you can see, The FlightExplorer software flightpath of UAL175 is the same than Radar Track Data files.

The true question is WTF with AA77??!!!

Le 16 mars 2014 à 23:51, Dan Plesse <dan.plesse@gmail.com> a écrit :

Can you explain this this graphic so I can tell other people about it? When some says " It was tracked on primary radar from takeoff to crash." What do I say? Thanks Dan.
<ua175fe.jpg>

Dear Cynthia Mckinney,

Do you happen to know what happen to the NJ Urban Moving Employee 35mm Film of the attacks on 9/11 which New Jersey Police processed and gave to the FBI? What did the police see on the film? What does the FBI show? thanks

Possible outcome is this plane:

Police NYPD Photo FOIA
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLMkFaWE45bGZsVjQ/edit?usp=sharing

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