Tuesday, April 29, 2014

9/11 Wargames Vigilant Warrior Drone Version 3




Hello Dan,

Sorry for the late,
I work to identify the plane of the photography.
But first, i would tell you that i not approve your methodology.
If i understand, you pretend the plane of the photo is a drone, circling around the WTC and then crash into WTC2.

It’s not my way to study a case, sorry.
Why having the conclusion first and then ask for corroborate your theory???
It’s the NIST method :D
There are 3 important airports around WTC: JFK, LGA & EWR with a lot of traffic before 2nd crash!!! Please consider that in your analysis.

First, did you try to know the location of photographer?
I did it and think he must have been perched somewhere in Renwick St, or Spring St. around 40.7259 -74.0082. (Look Roll #2 12.jpg and see the others buildings and advertising panel in front of WTC7) near 1 mile from WTC.
So help to locate the exact Point of View (POV), and calculate dimensions of airplane considering angles & distances.
Same thing with the model of aircraft and time of picture (know your estimation: 8:56)

4 candidates:
08:50 - Beacon 6520 landing LGA  alt: 1750m, distance from POV: 10000m
08:54 - Beacon 3107 landing LGA alt: 1600m, distance from POV: 8320m
08:57 - Beacon 5667 AAL1088 landing LGA (A/C: MD80) too low to match
08:59 - Beacon 344 N28HE landing LGA alt: 1220m, distance from POV: 7430m, but very low speed (about 240km/h). A copter? NYPD Chopper?

Your question (ACARS): "Does the Red Circle mean the location of Flight 175? Or Sending location? "
It’s the Sending Location, from a RGS (Radio Ground Station), it’s usually the nearest RGS who send the message to the airplane.

Did you used the Google Earth kml file of 9/11maps? (see link below)



Thx,
Vincent


Le 28 avr. 2014 à 09:53, Dan Plesse <dan.plesse@gmail.com> a écrit :

Dan Plesse <dan.plesse@gmail.com>

5:58 PM (9 minutes ago)

to Vincent
​ The methodology is based on plane don't normally look like this and witnesses and seeing ALL the features on the photograph i.e strange nose
and star like black spot.

Blue logo plane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH78TRSIb_A








How far was Sean Mutagh 5 Penn Plaza from "Flight 11" flight path.

Did "flight 11" curve or follow a straight line?

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Monday, April 28, 2014

David Handschuh No Plane Guy on West Street

5 hours ago
this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq1-BCeNcm0
911 FOX - an eye-witness says it was a bomb, no plane
www.youtube.com
that guy in my opinion is one of the best eyewitnesses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAzzHjLYjuA
Original No-Plane Witness On 9/11
www.youtube.com
cut that 1st clip with ya video editor
they try and get the planers argue with the no planers, both happened if you ask me
were was he again? He says something in the beginning.
find out
outside and liquor store
the liquor store
24 - 25
see if he has a good view
25 long street ?
THey didn't ask for his name too.
going for a shower now
hes contracting their bullshit lol
Talk later
they want him to go away
Listen to 1010 wins 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfE_jU4iG44
9/11 1010 Wins Host sees planes on T.V, Reporters on the street see nothing! Very Funny
www.youtube.com
the media mix up witnesses from the 1st plane up with the second too
to fuck with your brain
watch out for that
I fuck up 1010 wins recording
they want to cement in ya head a plane hit the second building
they even correct people that say 737 and say maybe it was a 757 like in one of those last clips for the 1st plane
time to go
talk later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHrbQ0u3xzk
911stealth David Handschuh Propelled in Air a Block by Explosion & Saw No Plane
www.youtube.com

10 minutes ago
he was blown up
huh
that David Handschuh was lookin directly at the impact zone on the second claimed impact and says he had seen no plane
that too
took a photo
hmm said standing on West street

that was his view
says he saw no plane lol
clearly there was no plane or he would of heard it coming and then saw it
I have to go to bed
its ridiculous there was no plane
he said someone told him it was a plane, he had a perfect view tho haha
Chat Conversation End

Robert J. Fisch — amateur photographer
"My name is Robert. I was having breakfast at Joe Junior's in the West Village when a crowd starting to form outside. In short order, we learned the World Trade had suffered some catastrophe. After taking a look at the black gash in the facade of the building, I abandoned breakfast and ran to my apartment across the street and grabbed my camera. It was loaded and ready (I'd just gotton back from Florida several days before). I snapped a few pictures and saw the second plane in my viewfinder. I snapped it instinctively. I had no idea it was going to hit the south tower."

Contributor's location on 9/11: New York City (12th street and 6th avenue NOTE from 911conspiracy.tv and perspectivist YougeneDebs: 40d 44m 09.20s N, 73d 59m 52.73s W. Ground elevation is 73ft)
Contributed on: August 3, 2002
Cite as: Robert Fisch, Image #515, The September 11 Digital Archive, 3 August 2002, http://911digitalarchive.org/images/details/515.

Robert Fisch explosion photo with bird "My camera was trained on the towers when the second plane came into view. The picture I took of the airplane should be in the repository. As viewed from the north, the plane appeared to vanish. When the building erupted in flame, I still had this "disconnect" in my mind and at first refused to believe the plane I'd just seen hit the building. After a few seconds when the sound wave reached us, it was fairly clear that was what happend [sic]."

Cite as: Robert Fisch, Image #516, The September 11 Digital Archive, 3 August 2002, http://911digitalarchive.org/images/details/516.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC38kv1Zigw
Proof No Planes On 9/11
www.youtube.com
worse cgi ever
the plane passes in front of the crane then wing dissappears


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Friday, April 25, 2014

The 9/11 World Trade Center one acre Floor scam


The 9/11 World Trade Center one acre Floor scam


 Dear Larry Leeder You have duped and misdirected into focusing on the floors. First its NOT " why a one-acre,." its only 60 feet long and 30 feet long on the sides. The core area was different and DID NOT have this configuration. Only morons don't know about the WTC floor scam.

The main issue is the core columns NOT the stupid floors.

Please explain what happen to the core is the right question? Airplanes could not and evidence has shown that the "planes" attacked enough of the core columns to do anything.

Leslie Robertson "Central core started down first" 2002 Stranford
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CYF2EsaChU

Jim Gartenberg Core WTC 1 blown out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVLuH3Plr1k

The inner core connections cover up, Stairwell B missing for NIST 9/11 Truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3GRKBhR6lw
Leslie Robertson "Central core started down first" 2002 Stranford

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Could a truther please explain, with calculations, why a one-acre, four-inch-thick slab of concrete falling 8-10 feet would not completely overwhelm the floor joists of the floor below.
I'll start you off: Average weight of a cubic foot of concrete is 150 lbs. Each floor was aprroximately one acre (43,560 square feet) and the floor slabs were four inches thick. 43,560 X .3333 = 14,520 cubic feet.
14,520 x 150 = 2,178,000 pounds. or, 1,089 tons. Each floor. Now, obviously, the openings for the elevator shafts, stairwells, etc. must be subtracted, but I'll let you carry on the work of refining the calculations, since it is, after all, your assertion. I just wanted to get it into your brain what a shit-ton of mass that is, on its own, not to mention all the furniture, walls, people etc, AS WELL AS the same mass duplicated from the floors above, falling one storey on to an identical slab secured to both the perimeter and core columns with 5/8" (.625") diameter bolts.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/floors.html


  • Larry Leeder Sorry, Dan Plesse. The Towers were about 200' on a side, and you haven't addressed the question.
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    • Dan Plesse Nope 60 feet. The rest was core columns and inner connections which look like core columns but the inner connections were "T" shape while the core was box shape.
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    • Larry Leeder So, you're saying the outside footprints of the Towers WEREN'T about two-hundred feet on a side? This is news the world should hear, because even truthers accept the size of the buildings.
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    • Dan Plesse 60 feet out from the core column area.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World_Trade_Center_Building_Design_with_Floor_and_Elevator_Arrangment.svg


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