Wednesday, March 18, 2015

9/11 NYPD Showing Orange Body Bags to NTSB Photos

Orange Body Bags 

Orange Body Bags


I just found out that the body bags were at Ground Zero were orange not black therefore it looks like the plane parts were shipped out in secret using these orange body bags.. Photos of orange bags and plane parts were on facebook for awhile.. Until people attacked the person and he left.
9/11 Flight 11 and 175 Black Boxes FBI Jack Cloonan are Unknown Location
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Dear Susan NTSB  Pub Inq Web Mailbox <pubinq@ntsb.gov>, 

          I just wanted to warn the NTSB that The 9/11 The National September 11 Museum has started to display the white plane debris as "unknown 767's" so maybe its time to now to release what really happened on 9/11 before some else of authority does so without the F.B.I, NTSB.

 So far the release of white plane parts has not caused a stir as long as the signs continue to say "unknown" however the tipping point is getting close. Maybe the NTSB can visit the  National September 11 Museum the see what is on display?

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:45 PM,wrote:
Do you know the story behind this orange bags?  It looks like the NTSB was poking around. Thanks






Pub Inq Web Mailbox

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to me

No, I do not

From: Dan Plesse [mailto:dan.plesse@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 3:46 PM
To: Pub Inq Web Mailbox
Subject: Dear Susan,


9-11 White Planes Wrong Planes On Display 9/11 artifacts National September 11 White Plane Evidence of a GREAT HOAX 9/11 artifacts  National September 11th Memorial & Museum 9 11 White Plane Parts are not Flight 11 or Flight 175



Daniel M. Plesse's photo.
White Plane

White Plane 




Witness White Plane #1

George Sleigh on the phone in his 91st floor office , a British-born naval architect

 " Looking out his window, he had time to think just three things: The wheels are up, the underbelly is white," impact hole that extended from the 92nd to 98th floors. 

The underbelly of flight 11 is Not a White.

Eric Shawn "First Plane looked VERY WHITE"

Penny Elgas Plane "it came from CITGO Gas Station" and it was WHITE 

 16:42 WHITE MP3 Audio 
http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/pe_060509.mp3

George Sleigh "the underbelly is white"

AA reflects its surroundings? So what?


Penny Elgas

Penny Elgas


all those witnesses (ElKournayti, Reyes, Veronica, Mrs. Hubbard)  saw it from the south. Guess which direction the sun shines from? Add to the white plane witnesses this video and Alan Wallace, both from a similar vantage point just north of the impact point. Both saw it from the north and STILL describe it as white, so maybe it really was white... but both Wallace and the video have the plane flying in low and impacting the building, so that's not something CIT wants to hear... Hmmm, what to conclude...
http://frustratingfraud.blogspot.com/2008/02/ladies-of-13th-and-poe.html

Daniel M. Plesse MJ Black other white planes flew all over the center of NYC on 9/11 for hours. The white elephant and EB4's and the civilian Fairchild Falcon 20 are like Edward Current's WTC 7 videos. 

The Attack Of The White Planes on 9/11 Version 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlUiC19Fhec



SERIAL NUMBER ISSUE













 commented on a video on YouTube.
Shared publicly  -  Jan 1, 2014
The part shown MOD5537 with the serial number 944? is a "Aisle Path Lighting Control Module" and much weaker than the "Flight Data Recorder" or the "Cockpit Voice Recorder" which are called the "Black Boxes" (Actually Orange). If this part was found in the condition shown, there would be a whole lot of other Modules and Control boxes that would have survived the crash. The Engines, Wings, Actuators and Landing Gear would have been intact and would have penetrated the whole building and exited the other side at 500+ MPH. There is no way the fuselage would have been able to penetrate without the engines and landing gear not penetrating the interior wall. Impossible! The fuselage would have been crushed like a beer can. Plus it would be like squeezing a tomato or orange. With that many passengers, there would be so much blood and guts at the crash site that there would be a pool of it and the smell from the bodies/ parts burning would be hard to ignore. Same applies to the Shanksville Crash. I believe both were cruise missiles or Drones!

Enough people have talked about a WHITE plane for the first, third and Forth plane to rule out OC theory, so why would anyone NEED a no plane theory? Its counter productive.

No plane theory like the OC Theory BOTH help hide the details that the public needs to hear. The details rule out OC Theory so that good enough for me.
WHITE plane




If American Airlines N644AA was issued serial number 24602 therefore the part should say 24602 and not 944, correct? and what planes have Serial number of 944?? Jeffrey Lee Norma Rae do you have any idea?
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    • Bradley B Ferris probably a red herring I can't find anything.
      that label looks like something that could have just been printed up and then filled in by hand
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    • Daniel M. Plesse I can't find anything either. So far the official story dupes seem satisfied without this final step of finding out which 757 which started with serial numbers 944??.. I wonder if emailing plane part people would be the best way to find out the answer. The last time plane parts were discovered Park 51 the press got all kinds of responses from the bone yards around america. I wonder if these same people are willing to give us an answer. 

      Fraud alert 26th 
      "A check of its serial number linked the wreckage to the attack that killed 2,753 people."
      http://www.nydailynews.com/.../landing-gear-9-11-boeing... 

      By April 29th 
      "NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said they don’t know which of the hijacked planes it was from "

      " The number - BOEING CSTG 65B84045 - is a casting number so it isn't specific to one particular plane, Alan Lery of Turbo Resources International, Inc., an Arizona aircraft parts reseller, told the Post." 

      "Chuck Horning of Embry-Riddle Aviation University in Florida, also told the Post that the number cannot be traced."



      Landing gear from 9/11 Boeing jet found at 'Ground Zero mosque'
      A piece of a plane that crashed into the World Trade...
      NYDAILYNEWS.COM
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    • Daniel M. Plesse OCT gets support in any numbers of ways and I believe "no planes" and OCT work together to hide the white plane issue.

    Norma Rae "*examine the holes"
    The holes were blown up and the plane material flushed out and back unto the street. Photos capture this every step of the way.

    Remember the photos posted here with two blue trucks and body plane parts? I believe that street was filled with stuff because of an explosion that flushed everything outward. Jeffrey Harr was trying to sell it as first plane exit debris. I didn't have all the photos I have now.

    I am sure no one found definitive OCT plane parts or they would be throwing that in our collective faces.

    "Exposing the No Planes is crucial because it exposes video trickery."

    Video trickery can mean hiding the true identity of the plane too.

    Anti-witness is exactly what OCT does, so why play that game? Both OCT and "No Planes" seem to be on the same side to me.





    So this is interesting 
    http://michaelratner.com/blog/?p=22

    "FBI agents, who asked him about a 2-way radio that had been found in the hotel, a radio designed for communication with aircraft" 

    What the heck kind of radio are they talking about and do pilots have radios like this? 


    David Blackford Not Flight 11



      These ELT's means early crashes 


































      Bob and Bree "it was a military plane"

      • VERY WHITE NOT FLIGHT 11



















      • 9-11 First Plane Witness Red and White Plane NOT Flight 11

      •  
        Steve Vigilante and Doug Eisler 9/11 First Plane 737 or Air Bus NOT Flight 11. 767

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      Tuesday, March 17, 2015

      Flight 175 and Flight 11 Black Box Recovery decoding data

      Get the name of those  FBI agents who took those Black Boxes
      Firefighter Said Black Boxes Were Found at Ground Zero
      On page 108 comes the revelation: from Nicholas Demasi

      "At one point I was assigned to take Federal Agents around the site to search for the black boxes from the planes. We were getting ready to go out. My ATV was parked at the top of the stairs at the Brooks Brothers entrance area. We loaded up about a million dollars worth of equipment and strapped it into the ATV. When we got into the ATV to take off, the agent accidentally pushed me forward. The ATV was already in reverse, and my foot went down on the gas pedal. We went down the stairs in reverse. Fortunately, everything was okay. There were a total of four black boxes. We found three."  Black boxes are the Cockpit Voice Recorder and flight data recorder (FDR) For its part, the FBI is still denying everything, though with curious bit of linguistic wiggle room. "To the best of my knowledge, the flight recording devices from the World Trade Center crashes were never recovered. At least we never had them," says FBI spokesman Stephen Kodak

      The Terror Conspiracy Revisited

      Black Boxes
      We do know however that at least the ELT on AAL11 when off on impact, as reported by pilots to New York ARTCC. (edit: you can hear the report here at the 31 min mark)

      Warren Stutt that decoded data from the last few seconds of 77's dfdr.


      TRUTH JIHAD RADIO Archives

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      Sunday, March 15, 2015

      Can gravitational collapse theory Vanish Human Remains

      Fire Fighter Body Part Map 9/11 

      40 percent of the World Trade Center victims have not received any remains of their loved ones.



      JULY 14, 2002
      Are the "victims had been vaporized" or are they safe in potholes or volts
      underground or inside the 9/11 meteorites 

       Dr. Hirsch was heckled during a meeting with family members, who thought it was insensitive of him to say that many victims had been vaporized.

      No remains means No remains!

      Not "yet to be identified"
      Not "presumed killed"

      The press is selling various degrees of reasons why remains have not returned to families.. Jim Moretti could be telling the truth after all..  One excuse many are they "are among the unidentified remains stored at a repository underneath the World Trade Center site" ..

      Did they find a final resting place in potholes?  

      9/11 remains fill potholes, worker claims

      The pulverized remains of bodies from the World Trade Center disaster site were used by city workers to fill ruts and potholes, a city contractor says in a sworn affidavit filed yesterday in Manhattan Federal Court.

      Eric Beck says debris powders - known as fines - were put in a pothole-fill mixture by crews at the Fresh Kills landfill on Staten Island, where more than 1.65 million tons of World Trade Center debris were deposited after the Sept. 11 attacks.

       Was the early reports of missing people just not good PR for "Gravitational collapse theory", so did someone decided "gone with the wind" should be changed to "yet to be identified" ?

      nytimes 
      "Forty percent of the victims — or 1,113 persons —       have not been identified"
      (implies small glitch but everyone who was reported missing has been found.)
       
      or       newsday
      "1, 640 out of 2,753 have       been reported missing and presumed killed"       Whoops the Truth

      "How does a gravitational collapse remove all trace of 40 percent of  the victims?"
      "First of all, there were remains found that were too degraded to be identified."
      Too 

      I wonder if the ministry of truth has stated that 100% of the victims  have been accounted for BUT we just DON"T  have technology YET to match the victims with family members. This is a kind strange false hope just to defend a greater fraud of Gravitational Collapse Theory.

      A new report by the 9/11 Museum says that heat levels were beyond two thousand degrees Fahrenheit. I wonder how far beyond. 

      No Returned Emails explaining the "GREATER THEN 2 thousands of degrees  Fahrenheit"! Maybe  more false PR will fix it?

      I wonder if some important someplace said out loud in the media by mistake that totally vanished doesn't jive with NIST investigation results?

      I wonder if this switcheroo has gone unnoticed by the 9/11 Truth Community? I think it has! Government has secretly won again!

      New official wording from the ministry of truth and cruel new twist:
      Has yet to identified or       too degraded to be identified! Known Unknowns 

      The Unknown Known

      Do families believe that since they never got remains by default the remain must be apart of the
      7,900 bags of unidentified fragments will be stored in the museum repository 70 feet below ground.

      I wonder if 7,900 bags of unidentified fragments exist at all.

      " And of the nearly 22,000 human fragments recovered at Ground Zero, 37 percent haven’t been matched to victims." What does that mean? It means 37 percent of the DNA given by family members has not been traced to fragment. Another words that should mean gone without a trace. Can gravitational collapse theory Vanish Human Remains ?

      " 1,100 families who never received any remains at all."
      http://www.ufanyc.org/cms/contents/view/10967

      Never found or in one of the 7,900 bags?

      "The remains of 1,115 of the 2,753 people killed in the 2001 attacks have yet to be identified."
      http://nypost.com/2014/05/10/911-remains-returned-to-world-trade-center-site/

      The reason the families never received any remains at all is because they have "yet to be identified" ..
      another new low.

      "1,115 victims to magically disappear. Not even a shred of skin, a fragment of fingernail, or a shard of bone from any of these bodies was ever recovered"
      http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/01/911victims/

      Is the city Medical Examiner’s Office playing word games or maybe a shell game? Trust us, no one has vanished but why not just fake it? What would happen if a single family member tested the remains and found out that the remains they received was total bullshit and the remains turned out to be a dog or a cat. Its happen before.

      Could it also  mean these are the undocumented workers or can something change DNA and that's why it don't match? How can this be..

      "In early March, on his watch, firefighters found the remains of six men from Ladder 4: Daniel O'Callaghan, Joe Angelini, Michael Haub, Sam Otice, Mike Brennan and John Tipping. They were buried beneath the rubble of the south tower." I wonder if this is true.

      9/11 Hijacker Side Notes

      Different Flights       UA 7950
      Al-Ghamdi was booked on another United Airlines flight on the very day of the attackSept 11, 2001  Los Angeles International Airport for San Francisco International Airport on UA 7950
      Sept. 20, 2001 from Casablanca, Morocco to RiyadhSept. 29, 2001 from Riyadh to Damman, Saudi Arabia. 
      Summary of Pentbom Investigation,’ Feb.29, 2004 (classified version)
      Both Al-Mihdhar and Hazmi were in San Diego Parkwood Apartments, located at 6401 Mount Ada Road, Apartment 150, San Diego, CA.
      https://web.archive.org/web/20080302183441/http://rawstory.com/news/2008/FBI_documents_contradict_Sept._11_Commission_0228.html

      The Shadow Factory


       Five wrong menAbdulaziz Al OmariThe second Abdulaziz Al Omari is a pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines

      Khalid Al Midhar, may also be alive.
      Saeed Alghamdi
      "       Asharq Al Awsat newspaper, a London-based Arabic daily, says it has interviewed Saeed Alghamdi"
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saeed_al-GhamdiMohald Alshehri,
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohand_al-Shehri      Abdulaziz Alomari,
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdulaziz_al-Omari      Salem Alhamzihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_al-Hazmi
      The Saudi Embassy source named the four men -- all with Florida ties -- as victims of mistaken identity by U.S. investigators. They are:
      Saeed Alghamdi, who investigators said was aboard Flight 93 when it crashed in western Pennsylvania. Alghamdi has been linked to an address at Pensacola Naval Air Station, a flight school in Vero Beach, a Daytona Beach apartment complex favored by Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University students and Delray Beach.

      Prince Saud al-Faisal said an investigation in Saudi Arabia showed that the five men -- all Saudis -- were not aboard the four jetliners that crashed in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania on Sept. 11http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2001-09-21/news/0109210388_1_saudi-arabia-hijackers-saudi-embassyRumbling witness Side Notes

              Inside the South Tower: Eyewitness AccountsLauren Smith Story #1

      "      Smith jumped, stumbled and fell into the open lift shaft. She was pulled out by firemen with five broken ribs and a punctured lung but made it out before the building collapsed."
      https://sites.google.com/site/911stories/insidethesouthtower:eyewitnessaccounts


      Lauren Smith Story #2


      "Trapped in an elevator in the south tower, she had fallen into a shaft when the building shook. A group of firefighters found her and, lowering one man down by his ankles, pulled her to safety. She escaped from the building moments before it collapsed "
      http://www.boston.com/news/packages/sept11/anniversary/wire_stories/0911_firehouse_revisited.htm
      From the floor, he grabbed a firefighter and asked for help. The firefighter said, "Let go, let go. I got to get out," DelBianco recalled. "He's beating my hand. I'm holding on."
      https://sites.google.com/site/911stories/insidethenorthtower%3Awitnessaccounts,lobb

      Johannemann video:
      "What happened was, I was down in the basement, all of sudden we heard a loud bang. And the elevator doors blew open, some guy was burnt up, so I dragged him out, his skin was all hanging off, so I dragged him out and pulled him outta the parking lot [inaudible]"       https://web.archive.org/web/20061015184759/http://www.abm.com/ilwwcm/resources/file/eb000c0fdc64a5c/Alliance-911.pdf
      VCF money paid to the Firemen totaled $559,197,606.41, which is about 1.9 million for each of the 294 claimants.
      http://letsrollforums.com/happened-9-11-firemen-t24265.html

      If you want the truth you have to fund the truth. 
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