The Master is not Crazy by Noam Chomsky They blamed Saudis Not Iraqis

The Master is not Crazy by Noam Chomsky

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Noam chomsky defense was

" either complete lunatics or they weren't involved." my reply below

The reasons are quite straightforward, and have been presented many times to ears that are unwilling to listen.

Uncontroversially, the Bush administration (or their Masters, in your version) intended to invade Iraq well before 9/ll.  You agree, and have even sent me some of the minor evidence to this effect.

General Wesley Clark said "Sir we made the decision to go to war with Iraq. AND WITH SEVEN COUNTIES IN FIVE YEARS

Uncontroversially, they blamed 9/11 mainly on Saudis, not Iraqis.

Uncontroversially, they had quite a struggle to gain support for the planned invasion of Iraq, and in fact overwhelmingly failed.  Almost the entire world was opposed, and even in the US in order to gain support they had to launch a huge propaganda campaign, fabricating laughable tales that soon fell apart discrediting them, etc.

Uncontroversially, if they had blamed it on Iraqis, they would have had clear sailing: overwhelming support domestically and internationally, a UN resolution, etc.

Therefore, they are either complete lunatics or they weren't involved.

They are not lunatics.

QED

"Therefore, they are either complete lunatics or they weren't involved."

If you change "complete lunatics" into "complete confidence" that everyone would fold under pressure of patriotism, or could be duped by scientific fraud and successes in Oklahoma City and other operations I would say you are correct.

As a person who understands the propensity for a population to be duped by a strong enough force, I am shocked that YOU can't see the blizzard of emotions that the media has perpetrated globally with a supporting cast of scientists, politicians, yellow journalism and the removal of ALL investigative compatibility to look deeper and independently, surely you can see confidence level increasing with these lunatics?

The Master is not Crazy by Noam Chomsky They blamed Saudis Not Iraqis

"Uncontroversially, they blamed 9/11 mainly on Saudis, not Iraqis" 

No they blamed Osama Bin Laden and he was kicked out of Saudi Arabia  and also the 

"Red Headbands" was The "Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine". 

 So no the Saudis were not blamed until much later, By that time WMD's was the next mess fraud of main stream media. 

Why isn't the "a huge propaganda campaign, fabricating laughable tales" not considered evidence of  lunatics?  

http://911truthout.blogspot.com/2013/11/911-they-are-not-lunatics-noam-chomsky.html

Sane Human

5:27 PM

 

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+danp5648 seriously dan... I don't understand what you are saying.. Your comments are completely incoherent... Noam Chomsky is exactly right.  If they had blamed it on Iraqis, the whole world would have supported them invading Iraq... A desire that Chomsky and many others clearly admit they had long before 9/11.... What he is pointing out is the simple fact that IF 9/11 was an inside job aimed at gaining the support they sought to invade Iraq... then they would have made the hijackers Iraqi not Saudi... Why do you not seem to understand this?  

danp5648

5:37 PM

They did NOT blame Saudis,  they actually blamed Osama Bin Laden and he was kicked out of Saudi Arabia and The Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, why can't you understand that?

I know what you are saying BUT your basic facts are 100% wrong.

Which "FACTS" do we agree upon? ZERO! NOTHING!
Not one fact from you or him have been correct or nor will your facts will ever become correct...  You assume their is common ground or Uncontroversial facts. That is not true.

"The desire (to invade Iraq) that Chomsky and many others clearly admit they had long before 9/11.." is not 100% true. The desire was ALL OF THE MIDDLE EAST.  THAT's why the video "seven countries in five years" was included above, it  debunks the Iraq only "desire" Why can't you understand that? 

I disagree with you on everything you say, even your hypothetical stories and hypothetical outcomes. Why? because its not correct and not even close. That's the bottom line. 

Sane Human

5:52 PM

 

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+danp5648 Did the government say that 19 men hijacked planes and crashed them into the twin towers and the Pentagon?

Did the Government provide us with the identities of the 19 alleged hijackers?

Were those 19 men that the government identified as the perpetrators of 9/11 of Saudi Arabian decent or were they not?

These are Uncontroversial facts... 9/11 according the "official story" was carried out by 19 SAUDI ARABIAN men... 

danp5648

6:07 PM

 

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+Sane Human

NO it not 19 SAUDI ARABIAN NO NO NO

Atta the ringleader WAS  Egyptian Egyptian Egyptian.  You do understand??  

Mohamed Mohamed el-Amir Awad el-Sayed Atta was an Egyptian hijacker and one of the ringleaders of the September 11 attacks

Get you facts right!

"Did the government say?" Can you please say exactly who and what you are talking about or stop everything until you do? Did a report say? Please mention the title. But NO the government DID NOT SAY. NO  

Abdul Rahman al-Omari living Florida has four children. 
Abdulaziz al-Omar was living in Jeddah has four children.

Abdul Rahman al-Omari (Arabic: عبدالرحمن العمري‎, ʿAbd ar-Raḥman ... He had moved out of his Vero Beach, Florida residence with his wife and four children on September 3, 2001, but it was quickly arrested by The FBI then named Abdulaziz al-Omari as a hijacker,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Rahman_al-Omari

Ziad Jarrah WAS Lebanese. 

Add an "i" you get  Abdulaziz al-Omari a fake person who happen to have
Abdulaziz al-Omar  Florida address and he sued and won.  

Robert Fisk 9/11 Osama Bin Laden Meeting Ziad Jarrah WAS Lebanese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVuonQP1oNc

Bobbo Seas

6:27 PM

 

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+danp5648 ppl really have lost all common sense and critical thinking abilities!!! It hard to understand how ppl still think Iraq was responsible for 911 Israel has everything to do with 911!!!

danp5648

6:54 PM

+Bobbo Seas He thinks that because the fake 19 hijackers were Saudi Arabian (which they were not)  9/11 it was not insider developed because that's a stupid mistake..  Part 2 Just because the desire for an Iraq invasion was high does not mean 9/11 was insider developed., it clearly makes it more possible because of 9/11. The question falls on LIHOP let it happen or MIHOP make it happen.  Both argument are not correct. The desire was much larger. 

While everyone else blamed the Jews via Urban Moving Systems, Odigo Messanger.

Abdul Rahman al-Omari living Florida has four children. 

Abdulaziz al-Omar living in Jeddah has four children.