Thursday, June 16, 2016

9.11 Review of Plane Witnesses and Rumbling Sounds

9/11 Maps Large Video, Radar from 911datasets.org 

Inside 9/11 Oral Histories I didn't find 767's or 737's. Maybe they removed some pages that contained witnesses. They say the total pages are 12,000 pages, but I have only 7060 pages.. or 4,900 pages might be missing.. I found one match that sounds like Bri's silhouette plane  but not much else.. No 767, 737 was found at all.. If you find something leave a comment below,,

 Brian
SAID THOUGHT THAT THAT SECOND PLANE THAT WENT INTO THE SOUTH TOWER WAS MILITARY PLANE LIKE TRANSPORT OR SMALL CARGO MILITARY THE REASON THOUGHT THAT FOUND OUT LATER THE SUN NEVER SHINED OFF IT

Bob and Bri silhouette plane 

Q. Does Bri believe she saw a military plane?

A. Bri's comment regarding the "military" plane was due to her seeing a silhouette of the plane and therefore assuming black coloration. Her initial thought was that the plane was approaching the south tower to help fight the fire. There is nothing in our recollection to suggest that events of the day occurred in any way other than seen on the video.

 
http://wtcbpc.blogspot.com/2006/09/frequently-asked-questions.html


Joined Oral Histories PDF Sources 7050

9/11 Oral History Project - All testimonies in one searchable PDF

7050 Pages by Graeme MacQueen
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7060 Pages by me
9/11 World Trade Center Joined Oral Histories Research Booklet
https://kat.cr/911-joined-oral-histories-research-booklet-pdf-t12408634.html


Task Search for

1. 767 (Zero Hits),
2. 737 (Zero Hits),
3. "the plane" (found),
4. "rumbling" (found) 


Not Searched: Pops and Flashes or Controlled Demolition Evidence 

Survey of Controlled Demolition Evidence Inside Joined PDF file 9/11
http://911truthout.blogspot.com/2015/12/911-oral-histories-search-results-for.html


F. TORRE

"because it came over my radio , people yelling to get out , they were bombing New York

 The walls shook and then we felt it when a rumbling and some people were yelling earthquake .
Brian O'FLAHERTY

SAID THOUGHT THAT THAT SECOND
PLANE THAT WENT INTO THE SOUTH TOWER WAS
MILITARY PLANE LIKE TRANSPORT OR SMALL CARGO
MILITARY
THE REASON THOUGHT THAT FOUND OUT
LATER THE SUN NEVER SHINED OFF IT IT WAS
DARK COLOR PLANE

S. GREGORY
They actually described the plane as it came
in. They said it was a military-type plane and it was
green and it was this. I mean, I never saw the color
of the plane

A. BARTOLOMEY

One person actually
said that it was like a military style plane that
actually shot missiles into the building.

ALAN COOKE
EMT "THEN WHILE WAS STANDING IN THE PARKING LOT

THAVS WHEN SAW THE PLANE CRASH INTO THE SECOND
TOWER" 

"ONE OF THE FIRE BALLS OR WHATEVER
HAD TO HAVE MADE IT AS FAR AS THE SOUTH STREET SEAPORT
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT TIME IT SEEMED LIKE AN
EXPLOSION WAS COMING FROM THERE THOUGHT AN
EXPLOSION WAS COMING FROM THERE " 


THOUGHT WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT THERE WAS AN
EXPLOSION AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER THEN THOUGHT
THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE AT THE SEAPORT" 

Firefighter Jackson and Firefighter Zechewytz.
They were outside looking at the sky.
Firefighter Jackson said, "Wow, look at this
airplane. It's flying so low."

E. RODRIGUEZ

 I heard, it sounded like I thought another plane had struck the building. This
loud bang and then it sounded like a locomotive, or like when I used to live in Howard
Beach, when the planes used to come in at night, flying right over the house. Everything

started shaking and I heard like a thunderstorm. Somebody screamed it’s coming down.


N. SWEETING


I remember saying to the other
coordinator, Steven Pilla, that we saw the plane
go by, and my first thought again was oh, my God,
this pilot must have been blinded by the smoke or
distracted and then he crashed right into the
building.

Shortly thereafter Scott said, "What's
wrong with the flight patterns around here?" I
said, "What are you talking about?" And the
south tower blew up. Scott said, "That was a
plane." I said, "Scott, it was not a plane. It
was probably another bomb." He said, "No, I saw
it. It was a plane."

"Are you sure you saw a
plane?" He was like getting angry. He wanted to
make sure that it was a plane that Scott saw.

Scott . HOLOWACH

At that time Chief Ganci was behind me and he
thought there was another explosion in the north tower
and that's when I turned around and said Chief, listen,
there is a second plane that hit the other tower. He 
was like no no no no, we have another explosion. I
said no, Chief, I witnessed it. I watched the plane
hit the other tower. He is like are you sure. I said
Chief, I'm 100 hundred percent positive I watched the
second plane hit the other tower.

A. MONCHERRY

FBI Agents were telling us to move our vehicle from the corner of Vessey and West,
cause there was debris from the airplane which they needed for evidence. I guess it was
NTSB, they wanted the area secured.

J. PFEIFER

Lispenard and Church for a
gas leak in the street. We were there for a while
checking on the gas leak, and then we heard the loud
roar of the plane come over, and we turned around and
we looked and we saw the plane coming down, heading
south towards the Trade Center, and made a direct hit
on the Trade Center

At one point the Fire Safety Director, Mike
Hurley, asked us if we wanted the building evacuated.
Hayden and said do you want to evacuate the buildings?
He said yes. I turned to Mike and I told him evacuate
the buildings. But
right before the south building collapsed, we heard a
loud rumbling noise, But standing out there, at one point, we just
heard a loud, thunderous, rumble sound, and that's when
people really were saying run, run. I must have had my
back to the building or was talking to one of the
Chiefs because I never saw it. I just heard the sound
and ran about 50 yards west up Vesey Street towards the
river and got about half a block at most and dove
behind a car or between cars in the street. and I hear pop,
pop, pop, which sounded like gunfire to me. Then right
after that I hear people screaming get down, get down.
It's not normal. I worked in the ghetto long enough
that you get down I looked down the block and I
saw some law enforcement taking a guy away in handcuffs
and he was very agitated.

T. GABY
A. I saw it coming in, I heard it, and bang, it
hit. I proceeded to try to call my wife to tell her to
stay home on the cell phone. It didn't work. I went
into I believe the American Express Building

I walked into the rest room, went to the
bathroom and was just about ready to come out and I
heard a rumbling sound.

I b e l i e v e t h e Chief s a i d where d i d he
g e t t h a t from? He s a i d from OEM. We were t r y i n g
t o d e t e r m i n e e x a c t l y how he g o t it. I n
r e t r o s p e c t , how d i d he g e t i t ? He was walking
towards u s . Was he coming towards us anyway and
he g o t it o v e r h i s r a d i o ? I t h i n k he t o l d me he
g o t it from P e r u g g i a .

D. NIGRO
At some point after our arrival and after we
had moved to the west side of West Street, I heard a
loud roar of a jet, looked up and saw the second plane
impact the south tower.

D. TIMOTHY
I guess like -- to me it sounded like the
8:45 from Jamaica station going to Atlantic -- to
Flatbush Avenue, the Long Island Railroad, just
some big train just right over your head, like a
whole bunch of locomotives just running right
over your head.
I looked up, and the building just
tilted and started coming down.

R. ZARRILLO
Vesey Street
stepping over airplane pieces, several bodies and
whatnot.
Q. Can you describe how much debris was around?
A. There was what looked like the front wheel
assembly of an airplane. Unknown the size of the plane
that had hit, it just looked like it was one pair of
wheels on an assembly, pieces of metal with rivets in
them,

The second plane came in. It was the
biggest noise I ever heard in my life.
Q. Did you see the plane?
A. Yeah. We saw it, we heard it, we felt
the heat from it, the debris.

M. DONOVAN 5
We were actually still on Church Street. We
heard the plane briefly, the earth shook, the
buildings shook, a tremendous fireball overhead.
I thought there was a bomb or an explosion. A
tremendous fireball, flaming debris, pieces of
the airplane, fuselage, landing gear, pieces of
the building
M. RUPPERT

We were watching the tower burn when
the second one hit. We actually saw the second
one hit and the plane burst into flames. Not
even a minute later we were sent in to the box.
So we went through the tunnel.

Ladder Company 9 Battalion Chief Malkin

A little while later, I guess it
was about a quarter to 9, somebody came in and
said they saw the plane coming over quarters and
then they said they saw it hit the Trade Center. (the first plane)

T. HOPPEY

West Street, probably three
minutes or so after he had told us to go in,
that's when we heard the rumble. I looked up,
and it was just a black cloud directly overhead.
At that point I was thinking it was a
secondary explosion. It looked to me like it was
much lower than where the planes had gone in.

J. DELENDICK 
We heard a rumbling noise, and it
appeared that that first tower, the south tower,
had exploded, the top of it.

E. CACHIA

It actually gave at a
lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit,
because we originally had thought there was like
an internal detonation explosives because it went
in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then
the tower came down
J. SULLIVAN
A. Out of the corner of my eye, I saw a plane
coming, and I actually said to Mike Hazel, I said,
"What is this guy going to do? Is he going to try to
fly under the smoke?

why isn't he flying around the
building on the windward side instead of, you know --
it looked like he was trying to duck under the smoke,
but then he banked and hit the building, and that was
that.

MALLERY

WHATS GOING ON BRIEFING THEM
SAID IT SOUNDS JUST LIKE THIS THIS IS
EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE HERES ANOTHER ONE
THINKING IT WAS THIRD PLANE MEANWHILE THE SOUND TO
ME WAS FOUR DISTINCT EVENTS THEY ALL SOUNDED THE
SAME THE TWO PLANE CRASHES AND THE TWO COLLAPSES
EXCEPT THE COLLAPSES LASTED LONGER

W. MERA
So we walked up, grabbed extra cylinders, all our gear. We
were walking up Vesey and we saw parts of the plane on
the ground still burning.

Note:
(the 
Humphrey flash was the other side north side of south tower 
I was hoping that it was in front of the impacting plane)
Humphrey
the plane came from the south, so
I saw very little of the plane. I only saw a flash
going on the side of the building where the opening is,
and then the explosion. 

Ippolito
At first we thought it was the plane hitting,
but we at this point -- we knew the plane was already
in the building, and we heard rumbling.
The building started to shake. We all ran
into the stairway, into the B staircase again, and the
building started to shake and lights went out. Just
got this tremendous rush of air coming up through a
staircase.

and that's when the building came down. I
heard an explosion and turned around and the building
was coming down.

Loper
Anyway, it's then that I was looking at the
north tower that I saw what I thought looked like a
seagull in the distance almost and it went into the
south tower and the south tower exploded in a huge
fire ball.

Cain
The plane wheel was in the street. You could see the
plane in the building. We went to about West
Street, in front of -- West and Liberty, just before
the pedestrian bridge where Chief McCay

P. HYLAND
Church and Vesey. We were coming across and we walked down. 
We had to go down tothe command center. We carried all our tools, the
bottles, everything, and as we're walking down, part of
the plane engine was sitting right in the street, still
burning. I said, look, this is the plane.

THE WITNESS FIREFIGHTER JULIAN TIMOTHY
JULIAN
BATTALION CHIEF LAKIOTES WHAT COMPANY
THE WITNESS LADDER 118
BATTALION CHIEF LAKIOTES

 THING YOU KNOW SECONDARY DEVICE
WAS CONVINCED FOR WEEK IT WAS SECONDARY
DEVICES
YOU KNOW AND JUST HEARD LIKE AN EXPLOSION
AND THEN CRACKING TYPE OF NOISE AND THEN IT
SOUNDED LIKE FREIGHT TRAIN RUMBLING AND PICKING UP
SPEED AND REMEMBER LOOKED UP AND SAW IT COMING


P. FALLUCCA
but I saw the big fire ball. The stuff was coming down
across the street. It looked like a meteor came flying
across the street. They said it was the engine. I
don't know what it was. It was a big fireball or
something from the plane I guess, came from across the
street in front of our rig, and as we get out of the
rig, there's a cop, city police officer, in the He's telling us, 
"I'm getting out of here. Ijust saw a rocket." He said he saw it come off the
Woolworth Building and hit the tower.

JAMES FODY

Engine Company 9 on Canal Street. I was only there
about ten or fifteen minutes. One of my members was
out in front of quarters and witnessed the plane come
over the city and witnessed the plane hit the
building.

NORRIS

WE WATCHED ANOTHER PLANE COME IN
FELT THE PLANE WAS COMING UNDERNEATH THE PILLAR OF
SMOKE THAT WAS COMING OUT OF THE FIRST TOWER BUT
OBVIOUSLY IT VEERED INTO THE TOWER AND IT TOOK ANOTHER
HIT
WE ACTUALLY FELT LIKE RUMBLING SENSATION
OVER IN BROOKLYN 

COYLE
THE TOWER WAS IT LOOKED TO ME
THOUGHT IT WAS EXPLODING ACTUALLY THATS WHAT
THOUGHT FOR HOURS AFTERWARDS THAT IT HAD
EXPLODED OR THE PLANE OR THERE HAD BEEN SOME
DEVICE ON THE PLANE THAT HAD EXPLODED BECAUSE
THE DEBRIS FROM THE TOWER HAD SHOT OUT FAR OVER
OUR HEADS IT WAS RAINING DOWN

HE SAID WHERE WERE YOU YOU WERE
THERE SAID YEAH WAS RIGHT THERE WHEN IT
BLEW UP HE SAID YOU WERE THERE WHEN THE
PLANES HIT SAID NO WAS THERE WHEN IT
EXPLODED THE BUILDING EXPLODED HE SAID YOU
MEAN WHEN IT FELL DOWN SAID NO WHEN IT
EXPLODED

CURRAN
WAS LOW ENOUGH THAT IT RATTLED THE BUILDINGS WE WERE
STANDING AT WE SAW IT COME OUT FROM BEHIND THE
BUILDINGS AND 

WE WENT IN THROUGH THE REVOLVING DOORS
THERE WAS MINI LOBBY THERE WAS LIKE BROWN HAZE
SMOKE IN THE LOBBY LOT OF THE MARBLE SLABS WERE
FALLING OFF THE WALL CRACKED THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE
IN LIKE THE LITTLE SECTION OF THIS LOBBY ONE GUY WAS
BURNT PRETTY MUCH TO CRISP A

THINK THEY SAID THAT THE FUEL WENT ALL THE
WAY DOWN THE ELEVATOR SHAFT AND WHEN IT FINALLY HIT
ROCK BOTTOM IT BLEW OUT ALL THE ELEVATORS
IS THAT IT
THATS WHAT HAVE BEEN HEARING DONT
KNOW DONT THINK ANYBODY REALLY KNOWS

WE HAD FOUND OUT WHAT GRATE THE LEAK WAS
COMING FROM AND OUR CHIEF PFIEFER WAS BENT OVER WITH
THE
GAS METER WE HEARD THE PLANE WE LOOKED UP

WE WENT THROUGH THE LOBBY ALL THE ELEVATOR BANKS
WERE KIND OF BLOWN OUT AT PROBABLY 70 DEGREE ANGLES 60
DEGREE ANGLES AND THERE IS ALL RUBBLE AND SPOT FIRES
IN THE LOBBY

VALLEBUONA
QUARTERS OF MARINE AND WE WERE WATCHING ACROSS
THE BAY WE COULD SEE THE FIRE IN THE NORTH
TOWER WHEN THE NEXT PLANE THAT WAS GOING TO HIT
THE SOUTH TOWER FLEW OVER OUR HEADS

BORRILLO
We were just about ready to
take up from that box and come back when we heard
the roar of the engines of the plane. Before we
knew it, it was overhead. Within two seconds it
hit the north tower

J. CASALISSI
We went into the building. We
went into the lobby.
The lobby actually looked like the
plane hit the lobby. From what I understand, I
was told afterwards, that a fireball shot down
the elevator shaft and blew out all the windows
in the lobby and blew out the elevator doors.


T. JOHNSON
I was milling around house watch.
Maybe about quarter to we were in house watch
watching the TV. We saw the hole in the building
of the north tower. At that time we didn't know
what was going on, so we were just watching,
watching. Then we saw the plane hit the south
tower. 

WALSH
THE BUILDING DIDNT FALL THE WAY YOU WOULD
THINK TALL BUILDINGS WOULD FALL PRETTY MUCH IT LOOKED
LIKE IT IMPLODED ON ITSELF LOOKED OVER MY SHOULDE

Firefighter Escoffry
is assigned to Ladder Company 20

I was relieved, and a few of us were
standing in front of quarters when we noticed a
plane came directly over the firehouse maybe
around 8:45, somewhere around that time. One of
the guys mentioned that the plane looked like it
was really low.

BARRETT
APPROXIMATELY 950 WE HEARD THIS LOUD
NOISE LOOKED UP AND IT SOUNDED LIKE ANOTHER
AIRPLANE WAS COMING IN THATS WHAT IT SOUNDED IT
SOUNDED LIKE LARGE ENGINE LIKE YOURE SITTING ON THE
SEAT ON THE WING OF THE PLANE

CHARLES
SO WE GET INTO JR MUSIC MEAN THE
BUILDING NEXT TO JR MUSIC WORLD AND THEYRE TALKING
AND OVERHEAR THE COP TELLING EVERYBODY YEAH IT CAME
OVER THE RADIO THAT ONE OF THE PLANES ARE HEADING
TOWARDS THE TRADE CENTER AND THAT ONE OF THE PLANES
WERE ALREADY HIJACKED 

. CARLSEN
I guess about three minutes later you
just heard explosions coming from building two,
the south tower. It seemed like it took forever,
but there were about ten explosions. At the time


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