Vasquez was on TWA Flight Number 3. It took off from JFK that day, destined for St. Louis. Vasquez saw an aircraft next to them as they approached the Twin Towers.
"So this really shiny object," he explained. "It would just like drop and disappear, and it was like out of control, down and up."
SAWYER: We had seen a plane coming in from the other direction earlier. I had noticed it. Had you, Charlie? I didn't know if that plane had been circled wide and came back from another direction, but we all watched it, and I just assumed... BILL BLAKEMORE reporting: And then I saw the second plane hit the tower and this flash of light.'
The other five items are all excerpts from interviews or statements by eyewitnesses. Three of them – Kerry Cashelof, James Murphy and Brian O'Flaherty – I hadn't seen before, but the other two – Jennifer Spell and Tom Vallebuona – are familiar.
I don't know who Cashelof is, and I suspect his name has been misspelled as there is no other information about this guy out there. The book contained a link to the original source, an old eBay blog I think, but that link was no longer working. In any event he was talking about the plane making a u-turn. He also claims he filmed this, but there is no record of that. As it stands, this statement isn't worth a whole lot, but I thought I'd relate it to you anyway in case you've missed it. Maybe you have more details?
Then comes James Murphy, who is a firefighter and an excellent eyewitness. The interesting thing about this is that he too uses the same expression as Kai Stevenson: "It looked like it was coming up the East River" and adds "it was coming from the south". It's the same figure of speech.
• James Murphy "We were watching it. We could see it from here. We have an unobstructed view. The other guys came up too. All six of us were on the roof. Then we saw the second one come up. It looked like it was coming up the East River from here. I guess it was coming from the south. I thought it banked over the East River, which is what it looked like. I thought it made a left over the East River and went right into it going from east to west. But as it turns out, it came from the south. Then we saw it just go right into the building and explode. I remember talking to Eric. I remember Eric saying something, 'Oh, my God, there’s another plane.' I was saying to him, 'That plane is closer to us. It’s really not a big plane going towards the building.' Two seconds later it rammed into the building." Firefighter James Murphy. https://ia801300.us.archive.org/24/items/GrossmannTwentyTwoAndAHalfPlanes/Grossmann%20-%20Twenty%20Two%20and%20a%20Half%20Planes.pdf#page=47
Third comes Brian O'Flaherty, a FDNY Batallion Chief. The interesting thing about his statement is that he comments on UA livery, stating that the dull gray and blue colour schemes don't shine much in the sun. He too mistook it for possibly a military or cargo jet.
• Brian O’Flaherty "Just then out of the corner of my eye could see this plane just remember the dark it was in the shadow it looked low thought what the heck is the guy doing watched it watched him turn and crash right into the south tower. I said thought that that second plane that went into the south tower was military plane like transport or small cargo military. The reason thought that found out later the sun never shined off it was dark color plane it ended up found out later it was why it was United Airlines. They paint their planes dull gray and blue didn’t see any shine off the plane when it went from dark to sun." Battalion Chief Brian O’Flaherty. https://ia801300.us.archive.org/24/items/GrossmannTwentyTwoAndAHalfPlanes/Grossmann%20-%20Twenty%20Two%20and%20a%20Half%20Planes.pdf#page=47
Next up is a familiar face, amateur videographer Jennifer Spell. I wasn't aware until now that she too had seen the "second plane" come up over Brooklyn a little earlier. I'm now confident that this is what your friend Marc Birnbach saw as well – or he talked to others who saw it. The blue circle plane came in over that part of Brooklyn around 8:54-8:55 then continued up north. It was probably flying low enough to attract attention from a lot of eyewitnesses, and they assumed the same plane went around in a circle, came back and hit the South Tower. In reality, however, it was another plane that hit the tower. But I still think this plane made a wide loop just like we've discussed before.
Lastly, we've got a full transcript of Tom Vallebuona's statement. There is nothing new in this, but I wanted to include it nonetheless as he is very clear about the plane making a turn down there. In fact, he repeats it twice. First he says, "I watched it sort of lumber around on a turn. It was almost over our heads..." and then he repeats, "It seemed to make a turn and it was coming over our heads". Very clearly the plane was making a turn before it lined up for attack. That's not consistent with the official trajectory.
• Tom Vallebuona "After I hang up the cell phone, a plane came over our heads. I watched it sort of lumber around on a turn. It was almost over our heads... So the plane seemed to come, but it was in front of us, really close. You couldn’t get the perspective of the size of the plane because I saw two engines. It seemed to make a turn and it was coming over our heads, and it seemed to go slow and I’m saying to the aide, Steve, what’s going on, what’s that plane doing because it still hasn’t registered. We were there for a couple of minutes. And all of a sudden, it was like it just took off across the bay. I couldn’t believe how fast it went. At first, I thought it was just somebody trying to take a look at Manhattan. And it just went right across right into the building. It looked like it got sucked into the building. You couldn’t even see it disintegrate. It just went so fast and it looked like it just disappeared in the building and I heard it seconds later." From the August 2002 Firehouse Magazine https://ia801300.us.archive.org/24/items/GrossmannTwentyTwoAndAHalfPlanes/Grossmann%20-%20Twenty%20Two%20and%20a%20Half%20Planes.pdf#page=48
As you know, I think the blue dot plane went all the way up to the northern tip of Manhattan or even the Bronx, then circled around in a u-turn up there, came back down on the New Jersey side where Lopez and also the Radio Lady (who was with "Charlie" the anchor in the studio) saw this plane flying south on the western side of the Hudson River. Vallebuona then spotted it as it was making it's southern u-turn and lined up for attack.
The plane vanished right there, and it did not hit the tower. I think they pulled off a vanishing act as the plane was equipped with "adaptive camouflage" stealth technology. The reason it was "lumbering" over Vallebuona's head is that it was waiting for the attack plane (UA175) to come in from the south. It then went into stealth mode and flew alongside attack plane but whilst UA175 did a sudden turn to the left and hit the tower, the stealth drone simply continued up the East River, and that's where the tracks end.
MY PARTNER CALLED HIS WIFE JUST STOOD THERE
STARING AND THEN WATCHED EVENTUALLY THE SECOND
PLANE SAW IT IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS CIRCLING COMING
SOUTH THEN CAME BACK NORTH STRIKING THE SOUTH SIDE OF
TOWER NO GOT PRETTY SICK TO THE STOMACH AT THAT
POINT
My initial thought was this was a terrible accident, but I requested that these people start to respond to the World Trade complex and that I would meet them down there. We were observing the evacuation when we actually saw the second plane come down, flying north to south, actually turn around. And then we lost it momentarily behind the buildings, and then the next time we saw it, it was headed straight for the south tower.
My initial thought was this was a terrible accident, but I requested that these people start to respond to the World Trade complex and that I would meet them down there. We were observing the evacuation when we actually saw the second plane come down, flying north to south, actually turn around. And then we lost it momentarily behind the buildings, and then the next time we saw it, it was headed straight for the south tower.
Daya-Dominguez
Gabriella Daya-Dominquez (Husband worked in the South Tower of the World Trade Center on 9/11)
"My husband in the meantime, what was occurring with him at that moment was he was just entering his office. He was about 200 yards from the building. He saw the plane coming very low overhead. He saw it make a U-turn and bank right into his building. At that point he said he knew that this was not an accident, this was an attack and all hell broke lose. The pandemonium in the city was already going on. First with the North Tower. People were just standing there staring. They weren't really running, they were just watching. But by the second tower hitting people started running frantically. http://web.archive.org/web/20081009204612/http://www.arlingtonva.us/departments/Libraries/history/LibrariesHistoryOralHist911Citizens.aspx
Vallebuona: I don’t know if it was quite over our heads or coming over Staten Island. So the plane seemed to come, but it was in front of us, really close.
"It seemed to make a turn and it was coming over our heads, and it seemed to go slow and I’m saying to the aide, Steve, what’s going on, what’s that plane doing because it still hasn’t registered. We were there for a couple of minutes.
And all of a sudden, it was like it just took off across the bay. I couldn’t believe how fast it went. At first, I thought it was just somebody trying to take a look at Manhattan. And it just went right across right into the building"
The one you sent tonight was interesting though. That Melville NY guy who talked about the second plane going south, turning 180 degrees and then going into the South Tower. That was posted on 9/11 at 1:42 PM. It's too bad we don't have this guy on audio tape. All we know is that he's Ken from Melville, Long Island. (That's nearby you, isn't it?)
________________________________ Guys..... it is horrible!
Looking at the World Trade Center burning (North Tower) from my companies building at about 9:00am, I see another aircraft going south. It was hard to get an altitude judgement from my view, but then the plane started turning left 180 degrees. I first though it was taking ariel shots, and again it's hard to get an altitude judgement with two hugh buildings in your view. The next thing I see is a plane headed straight for the (South Tower) corner of the building and then a big orange explosion.
I site I will very forget.
Then to see both building collapse...... words cannot express that view.
I'm truely in shock! __________________ Ken (EastCoast) ________________________________ Last edited by EastCoast; 09-11-2001 at 03:04 PM.
The 9/11 BlacklistTell me Dan is giving you Kudos and actively sending people to your channel f**king you over....if i made any kind of error you could have mailed me...but no you make a video....if i didnt give a shite about your work would i be saying check out your channel....?????
The 9/11 BlacklistFirstly i fully understand that you have basically showed to the world i have taken your work and full of expletives have said i've deliberately gone out to undermine your work....after praising you and your work within the episode that is ridiculous....your secondly telling the world and me it was a second plane you've always stated it was a second plane and i've f**ked up there.....and thirdly you've taken this isolated part out of the whole 30 damn minute episode and said i've deliberately done tihngs to ridicule your work....and fourthly i notice you've had great pleasure in splashing Discovery Studios f**Ked me over everywhere....any mistakes i may make i would apologise and fuckin correct them....but you havent even remotely given me any opportunity to even do that or even explain if there was a misunderstanding....jesus you've posted here,in the comments you've emailed me and now you throw me to the lions....when knowing your channel has been banned from YouTube in the past already i'm driving traffic towards you again....plus i even took the time to watch and comment on the Dream of Drones vid which would have never made it to YouTube...finally....what have you gained by bypassing me and posting that video...you do realise people are just gonna watch it and think christ!...how has this channel fucked him over oh i know i'll check it out!
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A DREAM WITH CIRCLING DRONE SEPTEMBER 11TH UPDATE 4 EAST RIVER PLANE
FAA Cell phones traces and Witnesses all say the second plane on 9/11 was circling the towers
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A DREAM WITH CIRCLING DRONE SEPTEMBER 11TH UPDATE 4 EAST RIVER PLANE
FAA, Cell phones traces and Witnesses all say the second plane on 9/11 was circling the towers
Cell phones traces and Witnesses all say the second plane on 9/11 was circling the towers and the fact is on video, so why hide this fact? https://www.bitchute.com/video/Kcp06Y8w6rTy/
Your opening posts contains no coherent thought, no identifiable argument, just screenshots of screenshots with no narrative that ties them together.
I just watched the first few minutes of your new video. It's a strain on the eyes and ears, and an abomination to the mind. I kind of learned that 8 cell phone calls were placed from a drone that circled southern Manhattan. That's when I tuned out.
I don't think the world will be improved if I make a screenshot of such mental corruption.
The 8 calls were documented calls from flight 175, so you got that wrong. So you confessed to having seeing and audio problems and you also confessed to having attention deficit disorder. Every video clip is commonly held public domain audio and visual material you have seen your whole life, so all of sudden you having problems with it? Nope, I think you are lying about the "problems" you are having.
The fool's errand is me responding to you who is clearly not equipped to making judgment calls on any topic. Can you please just go away and bother someone else.
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