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What Is the 24 hour DEN (Defense Event Network) terry
"At 8:21, American 11 changed course, heading northwest," Lie #1
The truth is American 11 [changed] was OFF course starting at 8:16. The intended flight path for American 11 was never mentioned by [9/11 Commission, any blue pill review of 9/11] due to the massive cover-up from all who speak of 9/11. The only way a flight can be determined to be off course is by knowing the intended flight path of the flight and comparing that path with radar data. Terry Biggio's "I have never experienced such a serious deviation before" started at 8:16 according to
radar data and published intended flight path by USA Today.
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It looks like FAA ROC was doing nothing, so Dan Bueno took it upon himself to get some fighters only to run into a larger blockage of NEADS AUTHORIZATION. Terry Biggio contacted FAA's ROC right away and that should have been enough to send defenders up in the air and Flight 11 didn't even pass Albany yet.
Terry was the Operation’s Manager-in-Charge on 9/11
New York Air National Guard Maj. Jeremy Powell
Master Sgt. Stacia Rountree
The crisis was reported right away to the FAA ROC at 8:24 by the people in charge at Boston. Terry was in charge. Terry was relaying everything in real time to FAA’s ROC. The ROC’s job was to contract NEADS. It was NEADS job to contact all Interceptor Groups under their command and poll them for readiness. NY Air National Guard fighters were being sent to Iraq. So they were ready and were being sent on missions across the globe and so were the NJ Red Devils and the NJ Vipers. NEADS didn't have to limit themselves to Otis, but they choose that option anyway. The best option was to send everyone and whoever could find flight 11 first wins point.
Actually Audio tape shows NJ Fighter Interceptor Groups were being called to battle stations. I wonder who called them? Why bother with Otis who sent their fighters out into the Atlantic ?
NEADS was evacuated on Sept. 12 thanks to a floatplane.. Suddenly they are aware. “We weren’t really focused on the inside” Yes you are you liars.
This is a conversation between Boston Center (Terry Biggio; civilian air traffic control for New England) and the FAA’s Herndon Command Center (“Tom”), which must have taken place after 8:34 a.m. EDT on 9/11 - 12 minutes before AA11 crashed into the WTC. Biggio relates that they had tried to contact
… (more)My Correction
[Terry was in charge of Boston and he WAS not just a "civilian air traffic control for New England] Terry was the guy in command of Boston Center and he started reporting to ROC who does all the intercepts with the military. ] The question is what happened inside the ROC?
You avoided the key conversation between two unknowns which is recorded as help was denied BECAUSE Otis requires NEADS authorization, which the whole question is based on. When did the denials begin and why are civilians expected to follow military rules?
“This proper call was initiated at 8:38” When you call 911 the call is always proper with few exceptions. The idea that FAA calls to NORAD weren’t proper and therefore should have BEEN ignored and shouldn’t be investigated is another crime on top of the original crime of treason by the military. Few people in the world are this evil but it is evil at the heart of this disaster and this question. What kind of evil would require anything during a crisis? What kind of evil stands by this idea that this behavior is okay?
Then you avoided the reason why they didn’t have any luck. What happened? Do you know? Could it be that they were denied for the above reasons?
“must have taken” is an estimate. The question is why don’t you know for sure?
FAA counterparts at Cape Cod is “CAPE2″.
“ not knowing that (in contrast to Otis) Atlantic City was no longer hosting fighters on alert.”
This totally BS and you know it. 177th Fighter Interceptor Group was fully operational The Red Devils 177th Fighter Interceptor Group was fully operational and so were the The Vipers, belonging to the 119th Fighter Squadron. The Vipers and The Red Devils were in the air on 9/11, bombing and firing their weapons that morning. You have no idea what you ARE talking about. The Red Devils were VERY busy that morning. The Red Devils would be very offended with your BS!!
Military DID deny help = Otis requires authorization. Who was requiring authorization at Otis and WHERE is the recording of this conversation?
“IF this were an inside job and the military knew what was happening, “they” could have launched the Otis fighters upon Biggio’s request - it would not have made a difference.”
You don’t know what time the refusals started or why the 119th Fighter Squadron or the 177th Fighter Interceptor Group weren’t redirected from their bombing runs to the Trade Center and who decided NJ or NY Fighter Interceptor Groups weren’t called first or why NORAD was called at all. I don’t think any NY/NJ Interceptor Groups were called at all on 9/11. NORAD/Otis should have contacted NEADS not the FAA or Otis should have contacted the NY/ NJ Fighter Interceptor Groups themselves and not leave it in the hands of the FAA.
During a crisis no questions should be asked beyond a few finalizing bits of information and the military should have jumped at chance to do something right for change. They should have contacted all fights on bombing runs and redirect them to the crisis. What happen was an inside job!
There was no need to embarrass yourself publicly, Plesse.
“the key conversation …”
You merely claim the conversation is “key” - key to what, and how do you come to this judgement - based on what standards? In my judgement, the few lines you show there are of no relevance whatsoever.
“…between two unkno
… (more)If you still CAN”T SEE IT let me know!
If you still CAN”T SEE IT let me know! I don’t think you saw Evidence #1 for some fuck up reason. Anyway !
Cape Cod ATC then had to contact their Otis ANG counterparts. Who are these people? In Summary Boston ATC contacted, Cape Cod ATC which is turn contact their Otis ANG which didn’t know to contract NEADS first? It sounds like bullshit to me. Your time elements are also 8:36 and 8:38 is also bullshit.
“Otis WAS scrambled” is bullshit when intercept fighter groups in NY/NJ were flying to Iraq or on bombing runs were VERY active and in the air.
You also refuse to say “177th Fighter Interceptor Group” and 119th Fighter Squadron in your reply. Why is that?
Lets review
at about 8:24 a.m., controllers heard two radio transmissions from it, with the voice of a hijacker declaring, “We have some planes” [see 2].
Pete Zalewski, who is handling Flight 11, says that after the second of these: “I immediately knew something was very wrong. And I knew it was a hijack.” He alerts his supervisor. Lino Martins.
Notice “something was very wrong” should be “a hijack”. What does Lino Martins at do at 8:24 a.m.?
- (see (8:21 a.m.) September 11, 2001 Boston Controller suspects something seriously wrong).
- ↑ (see 8:24 a.m. Boston Center)
- ↑ (see 8:25 a.m. September 11, 2001 Boston Center Starts Notifying Chain of Command)
Over an FAA teleconference, Terry Biggio, the operations manager at Boston Center, reports to the FAA’s New England regional office the “We have some planes” comment apparently made by a Flight 11 hijacker at 8:24 a.m
The Red Devils 177th Fighter Interceptor Group was fully operational and so were the The Vipers, belonging to the 119th Fighter Squadron.
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