Thursday, February 22, 2018

September 11th Attacks Mick West Not Jet Fuel You Idiots


A three-foot stalagmite of steel, which looks for all the world like a drip candle, sits next to one of the immense steel columns that held up the north face of the tower.





September 11th Attacks Mick West Not Jet Fuel You Idiots




Daniel M. Plesse show me these fragments..
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Daniel M. Plesse How did you take this photo and when? Is the spherical MN/FE is was reported above? Nice spherical but what is it connected with? It looks like another spherical impression next to it.. Do you have web site with these photos on it?Manage
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Tracy Blevins You're focusing on what looks like spherical things but ignoring the majority of the sample, which is sharp edged.
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Tracy Blevins If you still support any sort of thermite hypothesis, then let me tell you right now that you need to drop it.
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Daniel M. Plesse Tracy Blevins Just to fill you in I have been searching for stories about stalagmites and they exist and so do the photo of them. 
https://www.nytimes.com/.../a-nation-challenged-the-site...
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Tracy Blevins What's your theory?
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Tracy Blevins Daniel M. Plesse This says melted steel beam, but it's not melted, and it's not the result of molten steel that cooled.
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Daniel M. Plesse Tracy Blevins "This says melted steel beam, but it's not melted, and it's not the result of molten steel that cooled." Wrong!

Its a FDNY display table, check out the video and check if the spherical contents for Manganese. 

FDNY WTC North Tower Molten Steel ON Display
https://youtu.be/D1dMsKnBQFU?t=14m26s

http://911truthout.blogspot.com/.../911-molten-steel...
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September 11th Attacks Mick West Not Jet Fuel You Idiots


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Daniel M Plesse danplesse@gmail.com

7:47 PM (4 hours ago)
to metabunk, bcc: Michael, bcc: Manuel, bcc: Pub, bcc: newyork, bcc: John, bcc:
Noam


Mick West com@mickwest.com

8:09 PM (4 hours ago)
to me
Concrete can't actually melt like lava. 

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 4:47 PM, Daniel M Plesse <danplesse@gmail.com> wrote:



Daniel M Plesse danplesse@gmail.com

8:26 PM (4 hours ago)
to Mick
Youtube videos shows people cutting Concrete and wrong again!! 

Thermal Lance cutting-melting concrete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV4r7OKkXmU

Mickwest mick@mickwest.com

10:04 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
Cutting is not melting.  It’s kind of like burning. 

Daniel M Plesse danplesse@gmail.com

10:47 PM (1 hour ago)
to Mickwest
Its melting while cutting. video says
"The lance is made of iron tube, with iron rods within it, running the length of the tube. The principal is "to burn the iron lance, by first heating the tip with an acetylene torch, then blasting pure oxygen down the tube, causing the iron to ignite - creating a temperature at the tip, between 3,000 - 4,000 deg C. Hot enough to melt anything that currently exists on the Planet Earth". Check out the molten lava streaming away from the burn area. Inconsistencies in the concrete cause it to spit and explode."

Mickwest

11:06 PM (1 hour ago)
to me
It’s not like lava, it partially chemically decomposes. Lava is just molten rock. 

Anyway, there was no molten steel found. Just some vague accounts.  

Daniel M Plesse danplesse@gmail.com

11:55 PM (38 minutes ago)
to Mickwest
molten steel was found by Dr. Cahill in his air samples and photographed here by the Fire department
Can you see the photos below? Wrong again!



Mickwest

12:10 AM (22 minutes ago)
to me
Microspheres were an expected result of the fires. Also many other sources like welding and grinding. 

Daniel M Plesse danplesse@gmail.com

12:31 AM (1 minute ago)
to Mickwest
1. Frank greening spheres  "welding and grinding" happen 40 years ago,
rust would have oxidized the spheres..  So Not do to grinding or welding

Frank Greening Dust Study 2017
Dust on shirt "the Mn/Fe ratio for these particles is consistent with WTC structural steel."
http://911truthout.blogspot.com/2013/11/911-molten-steel-debunked-think-again.html

2. Cahill spheres were fused with other components in the air..
Glass in the center of the droplets for example.. not do to fires!
http://911truthout.blogspot.com/2017/01/professor-thomas-cahill-9-11.html

3. Lava means liquid and red hot, not literally lava from the lower layers of the earth  


Mick West

1:26 AM (31 minutes ago)
to me
Why would the spheres be oxidized if they were inside the building? Steel wool has similar diameter,
yet it lasts for decades. I've got some in my garage from ten years ago. 

Daniel M Plesse danplesse@gmail.com

1:57 AM (0 minutes ago)
to Mick
Steel wool does not last, I have steel wool and its full of rust. Steel wool is not of similar diameter.The building was not sealed during the welding and grinding period..
Welding and grinding period was done out in the rain and snow 40 years ago.

Cahill spheres were months after 9/11 and 1,800 feet away..   USGS found them too

Mick West

1:59 AM (24 minutes ago)
to me
There's a variety of possible sources, including fires. RJ Lee expected to find them. 

Daniel M Plesse danplesse@gmail.com

2:23 AM (0 minutes ago)
to Mick
Actually the fires could not create core column spheres.

RJ said just the opposite
"The particles in WTC Dust have a unique size, morphology and association,
not observed in ordinary building dusts. 

The asbestos, metals, organics, and quartz are found in abundances
that are outside of normally expected ranges for a class A office building. "

https://www.metabunk.org/files/WTC-Dust-Signature.Asbestos.Final_.121503-1.pdf

Wrong again  

Mick West

2:46 AM (42 minutes ago)
to me
He also said:
"What about the iron microspheres? The iron has a thin layer of rust flakes that can easily be removed by
 sticky tape. The iron is heated red hot or hotter and subjected to hurricane force blast furnace like wind.
The iron flakes are liberated as small particles and some iron is vaporized. Like drops of water, the iron
 flakes form molten spheres that solidify and the fume also condenses into spheres, the most efficient
geometrical form. … The formation of iron and other type spheres at temperatures obtainable by the
combustion of petroleum or coal based fuels is not a new or unique process. These spheres are the
same as iron and alumino-silicate spheres in the well-studied fly ash formed from contaminants in
coal as it is burned in furnaces. – Rich Lee""

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Daniel M Plesse danplesse@gmail.com

3:27 AM (1 minute ago)
to Mick

1. No  hurricane force blast furnace like wind on 9/11.. Made up conditions..

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 The formation of iron and other type spheres at temperatures obtainable by the combustion
of petroleum or coal based fuels" 

2. Basically testing any tail pipe of any car should show this to be false.

 3. 
Has nothing to core column spheres. Has nothing to do Cahill.

Mick West

10:27 AM (3 hours ago)
to me
Sure there were winds. find makes winds. Big fire makes big winds. 


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Mick West

4:41 PM (17 minutes ago)
to me
You can see the wind caused by the fire. 

Daniel M Plesse danplesse@gmail.com

4:55 PM (3 minutes ago)
to Mick
That is NOT a hurricane wind.
That is NOT what RJ was talking about.

Monday, February 12, 2018

Chief Investigation Staff 9-11 Second Plane turned in a circle around New York City


911Truth Now1

"turn on a code that says he is in trouble. " code 7500 was being sent via ACARS for 20+ planes on 9/11.. One pilot was forced to start squaking 7500 on 9/11. 1. 8:14 Why is 20 degrees right important? Answer: 20 degrees right takes AA11 OFF flight plan and away from the towers and right at NEADS HQ. 2. Rome NY is NEADS HQ. 3. N47BA Learjet 35 FAA said air traffic controllers lost radio contact with the plane at 9:44 a.m military began its pursuit of the ghostly civilian aircraft at 10:08 a.m. = 24 minutes http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/oct99/crash26.htm?noredirect=on 4. 9/11 plane were not hijacked first they were : NORDO, b. transponder changes, and c. off course starting at 8:14, flying over military bases. Flight 11 flew over four Air National Guard Bases 1.109th Airlift Wing Address: 1 Air National Guard Rd, Schenectady, NY 12302.. 2. Stewart Air National Guard Base Maguire Way, Newburgh, NY 12550 3. 105th Airlift Wing 4. Hancock Field Air National Guard Base 174th Attack Wing Betty Ong called from 904-555-0004 which can't function in the real world DOJ Faxed Team 7 document. 5. At 20 minutes the hijacking takes place. NORDO start time is at 8:14.. 6. 30 minute mark is the accidental queue of Atta. Response radio announcements do not provide location data or identification of the caller. (Atta sounds like Isreali guy and 8:14 is the last moment and the start of NORDO. ) 8:14 + 24 = 8:38 is right over Stewart Air National Guard Base 1 Maguire Way, Newburgh, NY 12550 FAA Flight 175 circles around the towers, T1A B33 Four Flights- Phone Calls and Other Data Fdr- Entire Contents- FBI 302s 843 http://911truthout.blogspot.com/2018/02/9-11-secret-planes-ntsb-data-does-not.html
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My entire workplace witnessed the 2nd plane crash. It looks like the first one hit near the top of the building with the anntenna. The second circled around and hit the other building somewhere near the middle.

posted by Cavatica at 6:34 AM on September 11, 2001

https://www.metafilter.com/10034/Plane-crashes-in-to-the-word-trade-center


J. David.Canoles Manager Air Traffic Evaluation and chief Investigation Staff Federal Aviation Administration United Airlines Flight 175 UA175 was a Boeing 767 which departed Boston with a scheduled destination of Los Angeles. It was the second aircraft to crash into the World Trade Center. A review of FAA Air Traffic Control radar data showed that UA175 departed from Boston and headed west towards Los Angeles. UA175 turned left and headed east, flying through Newark Airports airspace. By this time, the transponder had been turned off. Mr. Canoles characterized this as indicative of knowledge of the aircraft and air traffic control procedures. UAt 75 turned in a  circle around New York City. Mr. Canoles cheractenzed the flight through Newark Airports airspace and the Wm as indicative of piloting skills and extraordinary navigation skills. UA175 • subsequently crashed into the World Trade Center. 


J. David.Canoles Manager Air Traffic Evaluation and chief Investigation Staff Federal Aviation Administration United Airlines Flight 175 UA175 was a Boeing 767 which departed Boston with a scheduled destination of Los Angeles. It was the second aircraft to crash into the World Trade Center. A review of FAA Air Traffic Control radar data showed that UA175 departed from Boston and headed west towards Los Angeles. UA175 turned left and headed east, flying through Newark Airports airspace. By this time, the transponder had been turned off. Mr. Canoles characterized this as indicative of knowledge of the aircraft and air traffic control procedures. UAt 75 turned in a  circle around New York City. Mr. Canoles cheractenzed the flight through Newark Airports airspace and the Wm as indicative of piloting skills and extraordinary navigation skills. UA175 • subsequently crashed into the World Trade Center. 



Sorry your channels are down. I know how that feels. Below you linked a draft version of a blogger post, which I can't view. Also Mr. Canoles from the FAA said UA 175's transponder was turned off when it wasn't. The code was changed. It's interesting what he says, but I don't lend it much credence. We have RADAR showing the plane's path, and the NY1 video showing the plane for 25 seconds before impact... if you have a good version with high contrast. You have lots of witnesses saying the plane circled around. I think their statements can be explained with the logic that the first plane came from the north; the two impacts were connected in a coordinated attack; therefore the second attack probably came from the same direction but circled around. Many of these witnesses were in the city surrounded by tall buildings. Those who saw the plane probably saw the last few seconds, when the plane was in a roll, turning. I think this makes more sense than numerous faked videos, faked RADAR, etc. Let me know what your new channel will be. You'll have to get a new gmail account -- and not link your old one in the profile info -- otherwise they will link your accounts and automatically cancel any new channels. I got a new Yahoo acct. first and linked that in the new gmail instead. Stay strong! Peace. Reply Avioding Mr. Canoles clear statements about the second plane circling around NYC which Substantiates the witnesses, who were seeing the object circling from across the water i.e no buildings blocking or high in the towers themselves i.e no buildings blocking their view while the first tower was already on fire i.e they know it can't be the first plane or another plane, really calls into question how you generate ideas.. You know where the witnesses are located and some took photograph. They all support 1. low flying plane banking in front Statue of Liberty and not the NTSB version. Also two Photos also support the concept and ignored. The goal is get the same radar data Mr. Canoles was looking at and see who was the second plane was really.. Sound Good?

Statue Of Liberty




1. The FAA guy was looking at unknown radar data.
2. transponder issue of course will not match the official story or any data point thereof..  Why would anything match up?
3. Witness were in the both South and the North Tower. Jeff Hill asked about first plane
4. witness were over water and photographed the plane which matches NY1 onAir
5. 
NY1 OnAir actually shows a low flying plane which is exactly what I am talking about.
6.  Photo #1 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLdEx1dUxuQzFMMkE/view?usp=sharing
7.  photo #2  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLMkFaWE45bGZsVjQ/view?usp=sharing

 

8. September 11th 2001 Live Second Plane Crash NY1 OnAir plus 5 Raw 6
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrJ9QDwKUk8


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According to J. David.Canoles, The NTSB published faked radar data.. Any faking is a crime and should be reported.

Chief Investigation Staff Federal Aviation Administration UA175 turned in a circle around New York City
I contact the FBI every time a new video is ready.. Emails I use are newyork@fbi.gov,
Pub Inq Web Mailbox pubinqweb@ntsb.gov

J. David.Canoles Manager Air Traffic Evaluation and chief Investigation Staff Federal Aviation Administration United Airlines Flight 175 UA175 was a Boeing 767 which departed Boston with a scheduled destination of Los Angeles. It was the second aircraft to crash into the World Trade Center. A review of FAA Air Traffic Control radar data showed that UA175 departed from Boston and headed west towards Los Angeles. UA175 turned left and headed east, flying through Newark Airport's airspace. By this time, the transponder had been turned off. Mr. Canoles characterized this as indicative of knowledge of the aircraft and air traffic control procedures. UA175 turned in a circle around New York City. Mr. Canoles characterized the flight
through Newark Airport's airspace and the turn as indicative of piloting skills and extraordinary navigation skills. UA175 subsequently crashed into the World Trade Center.

NTSB published Faked Radar Data





Radar
NTSB Flight 175 radar data RIV
FAA has another set of radar data.

No serial numbers were ever found for any of the four planes and photographs of the paint found on plane debris also rules out the flights in question. Phone calls had strange numbers 200-200-xxxx? 904-555-0004?? very strange.. private cell number were made public while public numbers were made private..

Mothers in grief flight 11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5llZbIIq-o materials found 900 feet away around another building

Cell call hand offs ranged as many as 6 cell stations

Photo Array
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fBMBtTb0vr79YSDq2 Flight 77 fragment and Flight 11 fragment
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ACDeUKqxzYZXQ5nz1 Flight 11 fragment and phone calls
https://photos.app.goo.gl/l0zPUGkzHLZiN0XG2 flight 11 fragment and phone calls

9/11 Flight 77 plane debris flight 11 fragment and phone calls FBI 302's

ELT signals might point to actual plane crashes which bodies and materials were removed and put inside other buildings around WTC.. as per mother in grief video shows. I did not watch vimeo video

One key takeaway is where is that data the FAA guy was looking at? How can we get the FAA version of events. The NTSB most likely was hijacked by the FBI and only used data that was given to them from XXX DOJ, DOD?.. The Naudet brothers story about the FBI vacuuming up videos was included for this very reason. , A real hijacking.

Was the grey red chips painted on the planes?
Call 941-623-2355 and 732-241-6974 Why Didn't Bush Attack Iraq after 9/11: Second 9/11 False Flag Attack Attempted by Bush back-to-back failed! The leaked Downing Street Memo 1. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy of an attack. http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB328/II-Doc14.pdf PRESIDENT BUSH had plans to lure Saddam Hussein into war by flying an aircraft over Iraq painted in UN colors in the hope he would shoot it down, a book Lawless world : America and the making and breaking of global rules from FDR's Atlantic Charter to George W. Bush's illegal war / Philippe Sands
Ulrik Pedersen "Professor Peter Knight of Manchester University, who heads a major international interdisciplinary research network, funded by the European Union, to provide a comprehensive understanding of conspiracy theories, takes it to be a now generally accepted fact that ‘some of the labelling of particular views as “conspiracy theories” is a technique of governmentality.’[4]

So who’s afraid of conspiracy theorists? Is it possible that certain governments want us all to be?

It is interesting to note that Professor Knight thinks that if serious conspiracy theories can sometimes be on the right track, then perhaps what they are finding should not be thought of as conspiracies. For instance, he writes, ‘it is possible that different parts of the labyrinthine U.S. intelligence agencies were involved with some of the 9/11 attackers in contradictory and ambiguous ways that fall short of an actual conspiracy, but which nonetheless undermine the notion of complete American innocence.’ The point is, those contradictions and ambiguities merit study, whatever they are called. Knight’s tantalizing idea of an ‘involvement’ that ‘falls short of an actual conspiracy’ brings me in mind of analogous definitional questions that were raised about Bill Clinton’s descriptions of his ‘involvement’ with a White House intern. Good sense suggests that what people are interested to know is what happened, not what someone calls it. Ultimately, the serious conspiracy theorist – or theorist of conspiracies, as Knight puts it – wants to know what is going on, and hypotheses about ‘involvements’ of all kinds can figure in the inquiry.[5]

We should bear in mind too, that the very name of this field was bestowed upon it by those who sought to pre-empt its development. Its actual practitioners might think their activities could be more aptly designated in one or more of a number of other, albeit less catchy, ways, such as, for instance, critical civic investigation, intellectual due diligence, investigative journalism, critical social epistemology, or critical social theory."

Report: Bin Laden Already Dead


Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.
"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.
Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.
About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some "Taliban friends," attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final tribute to the "great leader."
The Taliban source who claims to have seen bin Laden's face before burial said "he looked pale ... but calm, relaxed and confident."

Asked whether bin Laden had any feelings of remorse before death, the source vehemently said "no." Instead, he said, bin Laden was proud that he succeeded in his mission of igniting awareness amongst Muslims about hegemonistic designs and conspiracies of "pagans" against Islam. Bin Laden, he said, held the view that the sacrifice of a few hundred people in Afghanistan was nothing, as those who laid their lives in creating an atmosphere of resistance will be adequately rewarded by Almighty Allah.

When asked where bin Laden was buried, the source said, "I am sure that like other places in Tora Bora, that particular place too must have vanished."

Monday, February 5, 2018

9/11 Flight 175 Calls to RBS 055 LGDA Base Station Distance Totals



9/11 Flight 175 Calls to  RBS 055 LGDA Base Station Distance Totals


UAL GTE Phone missing details

UAL GTE Phone details of traced calls, also team 7 box 13 header 

1. This document references "weight on Wheels"  copied from MFR04026027 DOJ 
source t-0148-911MFR-00216.pdf

source . https://slideblast.com/t-0148-911mfr-00216_59d0a72b1723ddfdfdf12054.html
or 
source https://web.archive.org/web/20120320170614/http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00216.pdf

Question: the document stops after three pages,  other follow on pages are missing 

Possible missing rest of pages: Flight GTE Phone Records_t7b13.pdf 

1. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0pxVbXyB9OLQ19CMGpYcFFndjA

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