Tuesday, January 31, 2017

Extraordinary Temperatures at Ground Zero


9/11 New Chemicals
Dust: The Inside Story of Its Role in the September 11th Aftermath

How Did twin Towers get as hot as Kilauea?

Quotes

"Gerry Fornino, FBI bomb technician, says that "heat was 3,000 - 4,000 degrees”. down the street in a car. "

"9/11 Museum Scientists determined heat levels in excess of two thousand degrees"

"A descent beneath the World Trade Center is a passage into a grotesque landscape of stalagmites formed by dripping metal, entire office floors"

9/11 Museum Scientists determined heat levels beyond 2,000 degrees

Daniel M Plesse danplesse@gmail.com

3:30 PM (2 minutes ago)
to Thomas, bcc: Mick, bcc: David, bcc: Beldar, bcc: Frederic, bcc: 9/11, bcc: mark, bcc: Sehrawat, bcc: J
Dear Thomas, what were the "New Chemicals/ compounds" released during the collapse and fires mentioned at the ACS meeting? I don't think fused iron spheres count as new compounds. Any new elements releases during or after 9/11. thanks 

One molecule, described by the EPA's Erik Swartz, was present at levels "that dwarfed all others": 1,3-diphenylpropane. "We've never observed it in any sampling we've ever done,"

In 2010, he published his findings in a book "Dust: The Inside Story of Its Role in the September 11th Aftermath."
His cause of death is unclear. The autopsy report has not been completed, his son, Jason, told the Daily News
WTC aersols ACS 2003.pdf
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLd0dpb1o3aGdpckU/view?usp=sharing


https://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs-0050-02/fs-050-02_508.pdf

https://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/chem1/WTCchemistrytable.html


UNSEEN JAW DROPPING - 9/11 THEY KNEW 2017
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/16977031/UNSEEN_JAW_DROPPING_-_9_11_THEY_KNEW_2017


Researchers said one molecule they detected had never been found in air before. 
"Fires at Ground Zero smoldered for three months and reached temperatures as high as 1,800 degrees, creating what one scientist characterized as a "chemical factory" that brewed new compounds. One effect was a sort of mini-ozone hole phenomenon, in which chlorinated compounds scavenged hydrogen and other atoms off neighboring molecules, transforming them into volatile gases." 
"Thomas Cahill, an air pollution expert from the University of California in Davis, said that starting on Oct. 3, 2001, air monitored a mile north of Ground Zero showed "unprecedented ambient levels" of fine particulate matter, sulfur, acidic aerosols, heavy metals and other dangerous compounds."
One molecule, described by the EPA's Erik Swartz, was present at levels "that dwarfed all others": 1,3-diphenylpropane. "We've never observed it in any sampling we've ever done
," 

Editors Note: Hundreds of Building Fires have occurred, incinerating thousands of computers, the claim that burning computers produce significant 1,3-diphenylpropane is just silly.. 


http://911encyclopedia.com/wiki/index.php/World_Trade_Center_Dust_1,3-diphenylpropane_Content


9/11 Museum Scientists determined heat levels in excess of two thousand degrees and not compression as earlier reported



Johnson, Kirk
New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y. [New York, N.Y] 11 Sep 2003: A.20.

Scientists studying the smoke from ground zero said that the mixture in many cases was simply beyond human experience. One compound, for example, called 1,3-diphenyl propane -- apparently forged by the intense pressure and heat of the fires and collapse -- had never been seen by scientists..   

The plume was so hot from the intense fires, which smoldered for three months after the attacks, that only sporadically, scientists said, did it touch down anywhere beyond ground zero. Hot air rises, and it went up fast.

Thomas Cahill

Headshot of Thomas Cahill
Professor Emeritus
One Shields Avenue
Physics Department
Davis, CA 95616
Office: 301 Physics Building
Phone: +1 (530) 756-6146
Email: tacahill@ucdavis.edu
Personal Website: http://delta.ucdavis.edu/
University of California at Davis. DrCahill
"“Dr. Cahill stated, “soil and glass were boiling” at Ground Zero well after September 11th, 2001 and up to and including October 30, 2001 and beyond.[2][8] To vaporize or boil soil and glass rather extraordinary temperatures must be reached and maintained.”"

44th floor, he said, a man with a megaphone told people there was no problem.
''His exact words were, 'Our building is secure. You can go back to your floor. If you're a little winded, you can get a drink of water or coffee in the cafeteria,' '' said Mr. Domingo. He and a group of other Morgan Stanley employees rode an elevator back up to the 60th floor and returned to their desks. ''How stupid were we,'' he says.
When the second plane smashed into his tower right above his floor, throwing a filing cabinet into his back, he headed for the exit again and passed the same man with the megaphone, now assuring people they would get out alive

"pilots could have punched in a four-digit code that would have made the letters "HJCK" appear on the controller's screen."
"
cockpit and one to record the aircraft's last 25 hours of flight operations."
"
 pulled the plug on the electrical circuit to the boxes, "American Airlines Flight 11, had pushed a button that turned on the microphone and allowed controllers to hear some of the struggle to control the plane"
"
beacons don't work unless they are submerged"

NFPA 19.2.4* Exotic Accelerants. 
Mixtures of fuels and Class 3 or
Class 4 oxidizers (
see NFPA 430, Code for the Storage of Liquid and
Solid Oxidizers
) may produce an exceedingly hot fire and may
be used to start or accelerate a fire. Thermite mixtures also
produce exceedingly hot fires. Such accelerants generally
leave residues that may be visually or chemically identifiable.
Exotic accelerants have been hypothesized as having been
used to start or accelerate some rapidly growing fires and were
referred to in these particular instances as high temperature
accelerants (HTA). Indicators of exotic accelerants include an
exceedingly rapid rate of fire growth, brilliant flares (particularly
at the start of the fire), and melted steel or concrete. A

study of 25 fires suspected of being associated with HTAs during the 1981–1991 period revealed that there was no conclusive scientific proof of the use of such HTA




Frank Greening

9:24 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
Do you have a photo of nano-thermite at Ground Zero?

There were tons of plastics in the Twin Towers, and you know it.

Plastics are very flammable, and you know it.

Please stop wasting my time with your trivia

What’s your point?

From: 911Truth Now [mailto:dan.plesse@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 5:00 PM
To: Frank Greening <greening@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Dear "had never been seen by scientists"

11:10 PM (15 minutes ago)
to Frank
No evidence of plastics, museums say so.. hence the photo..

Get dust, use magnet you have nano-thermite evidence..

The claim was made by Dr. Cahill so he says

"Scientists studying the smoke from ground zero said that the mixture in many cases was simply beyond human experience. One compound, for example, called 1,3-diphenyl propane -- apparently forged by the intense pressure and heat of the fires and collapse -- had never been seen by scientists."

Why don't you contact him..or follow the links or review the dust.. Do something..



Frank Greening

8:24 AM (2 hours ago)
to me
Guess what:  I have spoken with Prof Cahill. I think he has many things correct, but he is wrong
about chlorine.

Also,

Guess what: I just got a very good sample of WTC dust and I did the magnet trick.

Guess what: no nano-thermite chips

911Truth Now dan.xxx@gmail.com

11:00 AM (0 minutes ago)
to Frank, bcc: Thomas
Nice no details..   

Albany State Museum reported few items were found.. Did you contact them? Every employee
 should have a least a desk, a computer and a chair.. So what happen to the 50,000 or so office supplies? Somehow you have been avoiding that issue for 16 years.. Same with Cahill..
 

"I have spoken with Prof Cahill."
 How? by email? by phone? or by what means?
Did you talk about the new chemicals he said he found? 

Yes  or no? 
1. Fused spheres of iron (Yes or No). 
2. His "One compound, for example, called 1,3-diphenyl propane -- apparently forged by the
intense pressure and heat of the fires and collapse -- had never been seen by scientists."
(Yes or No)

Two people have died playing around with the dust. I told Thomas Cahill and he
 was happy death was close by. 

Part II

dust details..

How and where was the dust collected.. By whom?  Did you video tape yourself? What was found?
Did you report this online, YT, someplace?
(Yes or no)

More Cahill fused iron spheres

Frank Greening

2:37 PM (35 minutes ago)
to me
Since you choose not to believe anything I tell you, and keep demanding that I answer you, as if I’m under interrogation on a witness stand, this conversation is over

From: 911Truth Now [mailto:dan.plesse@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 11:01 AM

911Truth Now dan xxx@gmail.com

3:12 PM (0 minutes ago)
to Frank
You never provided any evidence and you never answered a single question therefore no conversation existed in the first place.  This is par for the course..











Grand Illusion: The Untold Story of Rudy Giuliani and 9/11

Bernard Kerik,  Chris Rising, Thomas Antenen, Chief of Staff John Picciano, Santiago and Craig Taylor


 "I was turning around to talk to [Picciano] when I heard the revving of an engine," Kerik recalled. "Somebody said the plane slowed down as it got to the tower."
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/giuliani-group-top-cops-barely-dodged-death-towers-fell-article-1.930887

" I was there, standing right next to 7 World Trade Center that housed Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s Office of Emergency Management. The front had been damaged by the explosion"

"I never saw the second plane because it flew into the south side of the building"

"Police Department aviation unit on the radio say that a second jet airliner had just hit the south tower."

9/11 NYPD Special Operations Division Communications Second Plane


"About three minutes later, the mayor arrived."

http://www.newsmax.com/Remember911/bernardkerik-9-11/2011/09/09/id/410390/

" Two minutes later, the mayor's vehicle pulled up.

"he said he saw a second jetliner crash into the south tower"  Giuliani said.


"It seemed like a minor earthquake," Giuliani said.


R. SMIOUSKAS
"As he arrived on the scene in Lower Manhattan, he
said he saw a second jetliner crash into the south tower."

" The ground was shaking. I fell to the floor. My camera bag opened up. The
cameras went skidding across the floor. The windows
started exploding in."

" I'm thinking it could have been a nuclear"


CNN


"Giuliani, whose car was about a mile away from the World Trade
Center when Flight 175 hit, saw the explosion but assumed it was
coming from the wreck in the first building. "

"The city's medical examiner told him most people in the towers were "vaporized."
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/04/06/moussaoui/index.html?iref=newssearch

"AT THAT TIME GETTING OUT OF THE RIG
TOLD THE
PROBY YOU STAY HERE DONT GO OVERTHERE NOW THERES MORE PEOPLE JUMPING MORECHAOS BUT YOU START HEARING THIS CRACKING NOISE
AND THUNDERING
NOISEAT THAT TIME WITNESSED MAYOR GIULIANI
AND
HIS ENTOURAGE COMING DOWNFROM THE SOUTH END"

THEY WERE COMING DOWN WEST SIDEHIGHWAY WEST SIDE HIGHWAYSOUTH HE GETS OUT OF HIS CAR THERES ABOUT
TEN OF
THEM THEYRE RIGHT WHERE MY RIG ISAT THAT TIME YOU HEAR ALL THIS
CRACKLING AND THUNDERING
NOISE WE LOOK UP AND
YOU SEE THE FIRST
BUILDING THE SOUTH TOWERCOMING DOWN " 

" Behind the van I remember seeing Mayor Giuliani, numerous Chiefs.
Q. At this time?
A. Yes, when I was there just prior to that. I
seen, it was very crowded, it was all the command
Chiefs. Assistant Commissioner Gregory was there. I'm
not sure who else, I don't know, a lot of Chiefs, it

5
J. TRAVERSO
was so crowded. Everybody in the command sector was at
that command post area.
As the debris started falling, it had to be
from building two, because the second plane hadn't hit
yet. People started running, what I did I dove down
into the corner of the van and covered myself.
Q. In the van itself?
 "

tremendous roar, explosion, and saw
that the first of the two towers was starting to
come down


Frank Greening

2:30 PM (1 hour ago)
to meJohnAnthonyLisamarkMattDavidFredericNoam911mapsAlanThomasRichard
Dear “has been seen by lots of scientists”:

1,3-diphenyl propane is a styrene dimer. It’s present as an impurity in polystyrene and is liberated in significant amounts when polystyrene is incinerated.

But I guess there wasn’t any polystyrene in the World Trade Center…..

Dear Plastics Expert, 

        Frank Greening believes that by burning polystyrene you can create 1,3-diphenyl propane gas.. Is this true? What gas or gases are produced by burning 
polystyrene if not true.. 
Dear "had never been seen by scientists" 
http://911truthout.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-search-for-earthquakes-explosions.html

Dan


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From: Frank Greening <greening@sympatico.ca>
Date: Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: Dear "had never been seen by scientists"
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