Saturday, June 6, 2020

911RedPill verses Mick West Trolls


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A couple of years ago I gave a talk on how there's lots of ways of making iron-rich microspheres, and hence the claim that finding them in building dust is evidence of explosives being used is pretty specious.


First its not just "evidence of explosives" . Thermite so far has only been used in HTA Arson cases and that was reported all throughout the 90's as per the news reports in the Wall Street Journal.

Second your "iron filings" would have to be found in the WTC dust all many more times then the iron-rich microspheres which also included MN and zinc which were are anti-corrosion metals added to the protection of metal surfaces from corroding in high-risk (corrosive) environments and would resist turning into rust in the first place. Does steel turn into iron filings even when mixed with other alloys? Copper or Cu for example. Mick West theory is that iron filings of the right size fell at the right distance past a flame and reacted but did not create rust but maintained the same material i.e an iron to create iron-rich microsphere which still flammable but avoided all the fires and flames a second time to be found later.
 

RJ Lee found the microspheres in amounts up to 6% inside the skyscraper across the street from WTC 2. Other scientists estimate a total of 10-100 tons of microspheres altogether throughout Lower Manhattan. These spheres were so abundant that RI Lee used them as a signature component of the WTC Dust. RJ Lee notes that the microspheres were created during the event and not by welding operations during the clean-up of Ground Zero.




Yet RJ Lee believes the microspheres were produced from burning and flaking iron within the building. 'The formation of iron and other type spheres at temperatures obtainable by the combustion of petroleum or coal-based fuels is not a new or unique process' Lee correspondence with Ron Wieck

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@woden1809 No they did not! full quote '...The iron is heated red hot or hotter and subjected to hurricane force blast furnace like wind. The iron flakes are liberated as small particles and some iron is vaporized...The formation of iron and other type spheres at temperatures obtainable by the combustion of petroleum or coal based fuels is not a new or unique process. ' Notice you forgot to add the sentence that stated 1. The iron is heated red hot or hotter 2. subjected to hurricane force blast furnace like wind. .. The combustion of petroleum or coal is a blast furnace is not new but it is outside the context of 9/11.

When you burn iron that has a small surface area you get iron Oxide not spherical iron microspheres https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNgyQD6FIFc





So is your claim that Mick faked this experiment?

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The spheres and residue after Mick's experiments are a combination of iron oxide and Iron.




@woden1809 Name someone else who found iron micro-spheres after a steel wool reaction.




@Simply Vibrations Then you should be able to keep reusing the resulting fuel and make more reactions. Has he done that? Also name someone who found iron micro-spheres or any spheres for that matter resulting from steel wool reaction.

"Other ways that can be created like rust or flecks of iron". You can't burn rust or Iron Oxide. Strike one. Why would the towers shed iron flecks like shedding skin cells? Strike Two.





So you can't get iron from iron ore? Because that is mostly iron oxide. Aside from that, pick up a flake from a steel girder sometime, or just any old carbon steel that's outside. break it... you'll likely find un-oxidized iron inside.

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@Paulie200 Iron ore is not reacting i.e burning in air mixing with oxygen to create iron, hence the word burn. If you break steel and you should find steel inside not iron. To get iron you have remove the carbon content. The only people who follow mick are bigger fools. You are using stupid examples.

RJ Lee One type, which comprised about 6 percent of the samples, was spherical iron and silicate particles that indicated very high temperatures ("WTC Dust Signature Study" pp. 4, 24, 17). USGS "The primary metal and metal-oxide phases in WTC dust are Fe-rich [iron-rich) and Zn-rich [zinc-rich) particles. Frank Greening said "discovered fe/mn alloy microspheres"


That 6% figure is demonstrably false. And most of the spheres studied had plenty of oxygen, meaning they were largely iron oxide.
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@Mick West So now you are questioning USGS paper or was that RJ Lee figures ?? "plenty of oxygen" then the iron rich part would read oxygen rich would it not. Elevated Tritium Levels at World Trade Center pdf says it all 1. No tritium signs at [the] WTC, 2. fire and emergency equipment not been the source, 3. 767–200 source: T2 was efficiently oxidized to HTO and then immediately vaporized do to heat. i.e not the source of Elevated Tritium!


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