World Trade Center Stalagmite

 “can you identify a metal merely by looking at it? “
He labeled it “melted steel box beam from north tower” and you can see it is a stalagmite. Top part is under text and broken off part is on the bottom. You can see into the object. So that’ s what a World Trade Center stalagmite looks like!

Who said he was just looking at it? He lives with the material. That sample he lugs around is heavy. He said that he it was on the basement floor “stacking up”.


“ yet your evidence is one that merely refers to ‘metal’
It was not my evidence and I made no claims about what James Glanz said. It was just a reference to stalagmites and heat under the trade center were the most likely material was steel. Case in point was Scott Schrimpe stalagmite find which of course was a stalagmite of steel.

grotesque landscape of stalagmites formed by dripping metal

This was James Glanz evidence so why don’t you ask him what material he thought it was or who he was talking to. James Glanz (@jamesglanz) | Twitter https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000360665966
Dear James Glanz you wrote "A descent beneath the World Trade Center is a passage into a grotesque landscape of stalagmites formed by dripping metal" did you see this landscape or was or told to you by FDNY *Scott Schrimpe who continued to *talk about stalagmites coming from the core columns while under the trade center or other people?
“your claim is that there was molten steel” no those claims are from people who were there. Molten riven steel and stories of lava are from Les Robertson “Les Robertson Confirms Molten Metal in WTC Basement” and the NYPD museum and tests were done by the National September 11 Memorial & Museum: Home which stated greater then 2,000 degrees. FBI stated around 4,000 degrees audio mp3 statement. Gerry Fornino, FBI bomb technician, says that "heat was 3,000 - 4,000 degrees”.
http://www.sonicmemorial.org/public/freshkills/audio/forninomelting.mp3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjmHqES_lto

Dan Plesse

13m ago

You skipped over this

"The museum hired specialists to perform forensic testing and analysis of two large composites and several smaller pieces that had broken off. ... Scientists determined that, at heat levels in excess of two thousand degrees Fahrenheit,"
This statement alone should be enough to open a new investigation and fits with molten steel core column video below and statements by FBI and everyone else you disagree with.  

“You are saying that there is no possible way that label could be incorrect, that every single part of (his story) it has been factually verified?”

That is right. It is verified molten steel core column because he’s showing this object to public in open environment free to public without anyone disagreeing with his story or disagreeing with the labeling or the material that he is displaying. Chances are 99.999% that he’s correct and you are wrong to question him and his story, and the object. You will never contact him and question anything directly because you know you are wrong. All you do type on a keyboard. If you have problem, go get the object and test it. 

‘AHA, molten steel! Clearly evidence of a conspiracy,? Nope wrong again! Evidence of molten steel means it was HTA arson cold case.

Evidence of molten Iron Manganese Alloy according to Frank Greening’s paper matches up to the alloy of the WTC structural steel and thus is evidence of High Temperature Arson crime and should be investigate by the FDNY!

I noticed that you have agreed with idea the weight to size radio can eliminate aluminium as the material Scott is showing to the public. The heavier the object is to its size is a factor in determining type of material. So you don’t need tests for weight, a scale will do. So you are wrong on extreme testing requirements.

“So the one piece of ‘melted steel’ that was tested turned out to not be melted at all.” Sisson, Richard D <sisson@wpi.edu said it was attacked by liquid slag which is a molten iron material.
Liquid Slag - an overview !

What do you think liquid slag is? Did you even listen to him? The evil female narrator said it didn’t melt.

Do you know the difference between a female and male voice? You are even more damaged then I assumed. What is wrong with you?

“Does Concrete Melt ?” The answer is Yes!! Does Concrete Melt ? review answers here. So you are wrong again!.

“you should not be able to see into them because there would not be voids.“ wrong again #3 I am not talking about voids? You can see into this object because it is broken off at the bottom, it’s like seeing the rings of of tree. The color shows is one material and that material is not the color of aluminium . No one has even seen a aluminium stalagmite? Can you show be that aluminium can create a stalagmite in the first place? Chances are no you can’t!

“ VW engine block which contains magnesium that has been placed on a fire” The engine block is not seen being placed on any fire. I don’t see any evidence of this in this video and you can’t verify those claims.

“how would you know that a firearm” The point was the steel was melted down. The handle of the gun could be another material. Other guns could have been half melted. NYPD also has melted guns on display. http://www.sonicmemorial.org/pub...

“Robertson doesn’t believe in any of the truther claims “ It was his claim not truthers. The Truthers just refer back to him.

“ 1) can you identify a molten metal merely by looking at it? “ YES In his case molten steel means it was discovered by workers and pointed out to him and the color should match up and seeing the liquid move should also match up to molten steel. So YES!

“So you are saying that there wasn’t molten steel? “ I didn’t not make a claim one way or the other. Changes are 99% is was the molten core columns like Scott Schrimpe, FDNY said it was. via its color, weight and location. No other material made up the bones of the World Trade Center. It is a process of elimination. Where would other materials have come from? Was tower made of aluminium? Is that your claim?

Professor Sisson was going to do follow up studies and his email says he failed.

Sisson, Richard D <sisson@wpi.edu>

Wed, Jul 13, 2016, 2:57 PM

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The World Trade Center was a Giant Soup of Vaporized Materials

Brian Good

Original Author · Apr 12

It has to do with Mr. Oucchy’s claim that the report has no merit.

The source for NIST’s claim that they did not analyze the collapses is Catherine Fletcher’s letter of 9/27/07.

She said that

“NIST has stated that it did not analyze the collapse of the towers." (p. 4, last paragraph)

"We are unable to provide a full explanation- of the total collapse." (p. 4, top)

NIST terminated their collapse models at the point of initiation because the models "are not able to converge on a solution." (p. 3, bottom)

NIST “did not find evidence that any of the recovered core columns experienced temperatures in excess of 250°C” (that’s 480 F — not hot enough to weaken the columns. p. 3. middle)

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Dan Plesse

Just now
 Huffington Post dust study found metal complexes (sub-micron chromium, aluminum/iron matrices) 

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/Sept11DustReport.pdf

Actually molten core columns are public and video with FDNY commenting that the steel was found molten are also public but that is not the main issue. Mr. Astaneh-Asl said the Steel Was Evaporated!!! missing ! Basically it was a giant soup  of vaporized materials making new chemicals on the fly i.e RJ Lee quote "Some metals, plastics and other materials were vaporized thus producing new chemicals that were deposited onto the surfaces of solid particulate matter, such as asbestos, quartz, and mineral wool. These dust and heat-processed constituents are not typically found associated with typical office building environments." Dr. Cahill also talked about new chemicals on 9/11 . Dust: The Inside Story of its Role in the September 11th Aftermath By Paul J. Lioy Page 154 "Some new chemicals were mentioned by Dr. Cahill such as fused iron spheres" Likely the fused iron spheres where from core columns as Frank Greening said "Furthermore, the m/fe ratio of the particles is consistent with WTC structural steel". the mn/fe sphericals were sometimes found inside glass sphericals via Mark Basile Chemical Engineer said in his report. Thus sphericals were created from core columns and during 9/11 and rust or iron oxide can't create the mn/fe sphericals.. Why do you avoid this evidence? Molten Core columns are even seen on youtube via FDNY.

9/11 FDNY formerly liquid iron found WTC molten steel

You sir have been debunked!

 

The World Trade Center was a Giant Soup of Vaporized Materials

Dan Plesse

Just now

Actually molten core columns are public and video with FDNY commenting that the steel was found molten are also public but that is not the main issue. Mr. Astaneh-Asl said the Steel Was Evaporated!!! missing ! Basically it was a giant soup  of vaporized materials making new chemicals on the fly i.e RJ Lee quote "Some metals, plastics and other materials were vaporized thus producing new chemicals that were deposited onto the surfaces of solid particulate matter, such as asbestos, quartz, and mineral wool. These dust and heat-processed constituents are not typically found associated with typical office building environments." Dr. Cahill also talked about new chemicals on 9/11 . Dust: The Inside Story of its Role in the September 11th Aftermath By Paul J. Lioy Page 154 "Some new chemicals were mentioned by Dr. Cahill such as fused iron spheres" Likely the fused iron spheres where from core columns as Frank Greening said "Furthermore, the m/fe ratio of the particles is consistent with WTC structural steel". the mn/fe sphericals were sometimes found inside glass sphericals via Mark Basile Chemical Engineer said in his report. Thus sphericals were created from core columns and during 9/11 and rust or iron oxide can't create the mn/fe sphericals.. Why do you avoid this evidence? Molten Core columns are even seen on youtube via FDNY.

9/11 FDNY formerly liquid iron found WTC molten steel

You sir have been debunked!

Dark Areas of 9/11

Louis Vaught

Original Author · 2h ago

Again, the problem is that you can’t just look at the shape of the core of the building.

The building’s structure is one large design, and every part interacts with every other part. Just because the core of the building “looks like” a traditional steel braced frame doesn’t mean that part of the building is a traditional structure, and it won’t behave the same as one.

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Dan Plesse

5m ago

The point is in your world the core is missing, right? Only a crazy people believe the towers did not have traditional steel braced frame core and you are one of these “people”. Congratulations! Explosions which went off in tandem with the airplane impacts which caused the “behavior” i.e the dust monster seen below and 54% still missing people with no meaningful decline in more people being found in 18 years is evidence of explosives. Also reports include explosives in other buildings at around 10:45 by CNN and BBC . “Military Controlled Demolition” was the best description so far by Implosion World. The body part spatter analysis shows the Fire Fighters entering the building later had their parts spattered across the city in all directions and in distances 1306.912 feet.

The dark areas are the locations of six explosives grouped together targeting the core