Daniel M. PlesseMary Pishney You watch and listen so you can report their criminal activity which I have done. CNN also edits out WTC 7 fall in real-time.
Mary PishneyYou tell me...I'm not fan of hers, nor am I an apologist for any media source. I am not glued to the tube, but spend my time reading, which is the only tie to reality and truth left in this mental imprisoned nation.
Daniel M. PlesseMary Pishney Do you know if anyone has ever asked that question? Nope! Another question is timing. When was she told? Was it at 5:00 p.m when search rescue ended so they can deal with the new dust cloud?
When I offering future advances in coldfusion server, which 99% are now common features in CF i.e the suggest of embedding Java database the CF community was openly hostile and I got phone calls from one CF members which were not friendly. I still sell old my CF products "Coldfusion Gateway with Java Gtalk and AJAX" which now are now embedded into Coldfusion as the gateway product. Java database is embedded. Coldfusion has never acknowledge anything I have done. So I dropped out.
My Programs that didn't get embedded. Java TTS
Coldfusion 10 Talking Text Voice Kevin Kill all humans tutorial part
Coldfusion 10 Speech Synthesis engine and talking CFML Example
What Coldfusion has not done is make the shopping cart easier to make and with that comment the phone should start ringing again .. "stop this nonsense at once!" Interestingly this behavior exists everywhere. i.e for 9/11 Truth i.i.e unediting the sounds of explosions, thermite reactions and showing molten rivers also get the cold shoulder from the Truther movement for not being effective controlled opposition.
There was no radiation, there was no nuclear weapons
What are these aluminum and magnesium silicates?
"Of the patients with interstitial disease, all had large amounts of aluminum and magnesium silicates in an unusual platy configuration, ranging from 27,600 to 184,000/g wet weight of lung. As a comparison, we reexamined for the presence of CNT in 40 samples taken from unrelated workers from diverse construction trades suspected for asbestos-related disease. These patients were known to have been exposed to asbestos, and most of these 40 patients had a high lung burden of asbestosfibers. Less than 10%, however, had platy aluminum and magnesium silicates similar to those seen in WTC patients. Furthermore when they were seen in the control samples, they were present in small quantities (< 1,000/g wet weight of lung)."
They keep saying "less then". Never found anyplace else would be better. At the end of this PDF they say
" Recently, however, small numbers of Carbon NanoTubes have been identified in control specimens from the tri-state area (New York, New Jersey, Connecticut) at minimal concentrations (Gordon R, unpublished data). These might originate in the combustion engines of automobiles (Lam et al. 2006)."
Yep good old "combustion engines of automobiles" explain iron micro spheres in the air and 5.87% of the dust. "They might" but no tests done and never will? iron micro spheres are evidence of vaporized iron
Hmm...., Confirmed, just as suspected - silicate-rich spherules. Undoubtedly from the concrete surroundings in the buildings core section.
From the reference PDF. Extremely high temperatures during the World Trade Center destruction "4.4. Materials from WTC with a “Swiss-cheese appearance” corroborate high temperatures, Dust particles from the WTC collapse show a “Swiss cheese appearance as a result of boiling and evaporation,”as reported in the RJ Lee report:...." "Gypsum in the WTC Dust is finely pulverized to a degree not seen in other building debris." and Mr. Steven E. ( Thermite) Jones & Jeffrey Farrer as a coauthors and both Physics. Both of them should realize the obvious.
+danp5648 I saw isolated fires at ground zero and a long, drawn out talk by some guy who calls himself a scientist, saying that people said there was molten metal. Oh and some audio about a carpet store fire somewhere that got hot enough to boil concrete.... No molten metal.
+Betsy McGee Yeah it sounds like you missed everything.
1. Leslie Robertson story about workers showing him a little river steel running to students at Stanford University in 2002,
2. Eric Catuccio not "some guy". Who says if you call these people who talk about molten steel lairs, you must be some kind of sick asshole. Sorry to say it, but I believe that too.
3. Eric Bolling vs Jesse Ventura clip is the best view of molten metal because the red lava flow remains solid with without fire characteristics for which examples are all around it and that clip was not releases by NIST, meaning that clip is forbidden.
4. High pressure water blows the nano material off which then explodes with continual secondary events characteristic high energy Energetic nano-materials
5. "carpet store fire" or "high intensity arson fire in Seattle" was talking about arsonist using thermite with calcium, silicon, and aluminum metals and iron oxide which most likely showered 9/11 Ground Zero causing the secondary fires.
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6. The HTA arson (thermite) problem was widely reported before 9/11 defined as "rocket fuel" but somehow 9/11 Truthers just can't connect the dots back to these pre 9/11 dated reports. The Narrative can't go back in time?
Bolling vs. Ventura clip - you mean the picture next to Bolling in the video?
That's just a closeup of the fire they show a minute later inside part of what looks like building 4... your "red column" is just a space filed with fire between two darker pieces. Look again.
Never heard of Catuccio, but if he believes in molten anything but can't figure out that the FACT that not ONE pic or video of it or its effects exists, is highly suspect, I'm not impressed.
Leslie Robertson is so far up in the conspiracy and the coverup he might as well be Silverstein.
What is this HOSE you're talking about? At the base of the south pedestrian bridge?
Carpet store fire and thermite are irrelevant to 9/11.
Again, another video purportedly about MOLTEN STEEL with no evidence of molten steel.
I didn't miss anything. There's nothing to miss...
+Betsy McGee "Leslie Robertson is so far up in the conspiracy.." which means his words count double when talking of molten steel. He should be covering up this fact. Do you believe his story is a lie along with everyone else? He just randomly starts talking about it because its designed to cover up something else? Do you have an alternative explanation?
Bolling vs. Ventura screenshot is from the video and later on I show the "red column" as filmed inside the effects of dust cloud and so yes I see this is the best filmed example so far of a red hot column that can be found at Ground Zero. Running steel is not allowed to be filmed or released to the public . You are missing the fact that no flame is forming that solid column or can form solid objects. Flame does not behave this way. So yes, you did miss that. Go and make fire yourself. Get away from the gas stoves and computers. find an open area outdoors and find out it can't be done.
If you can recreate a solid red column on film or show another example of something like this I will withdraw my claim. But you can't just use words. You have show by example. So by default you missed those details.
There are also two Photos of John Gross of NIST with swiss cheese column was contained in that video, did you miss that? A more detail report comprises Appendix C of the FEMA report defined as "eutectic formations".
"Carpet store fire and thermite are irrelevant to 9/11." No that is also incorrect.
Nanoenergetic metal oxide composites has always been and always be the tools of the trade of the professional arsonist. Unless you are a professional arsonist you can't say otherwise. Here is another document to back up that claim.
Jeffrey HarrPlesse- "Can you point to another video of a car fire with similar results? Secondary flashes for example?" It's a freaking truck on fire! "Energetic nano-materials"? Says who? Talk about bullshit answers...
Daniel M. PlesseWhy are you refusing so quickly to NOT show a similar example? You have all videos in the world at your disposal. Still you come up empty. Proving my point. Its not fire and it will never be.
Daniel M. PlesseJeffrey Harr Do you see the words "secondary reactions" Why are you avoid that key issue? When you avoid, it only means its because I am right.
You are also avoiding reproducing the key effects using other videos? You can even use clear arson videos to prove your point that's the effects seen are common.
Why should you? because its key to my point that you can't.
Daniel M. Plesseand then what happens ? Another reaction. Why is this so hard? The photograph above captures those secondary reactions. Do you understand?
Jeffrey HarrIt's not hard at all- I disagree with your interpretation. The hose could have blown burning plastic out, for instance. Who knows?
If you're going to assert to me that it is "Energetic nano-materials", prove it or shut the fuck up about it. "remember when you avoid, its means I am right."
Jeffrey HarrYou didn't prove shit! You make silly arbitrary claims and say you proved it because I don't find it worthy of serious research? That's hilarious!
Daniel M. PlessePut up or shut up. Bottom line. We can rule out all other possibilities using video. And you are still avoiding! Or you did do a search and could not disprove therefore you gave up. Also this explains your bad temper. Youtube is filled with burning cars, trucks, houses. Put up or Shut up.
Jeffrey HarrDoes it bother anyone that the samples used for their paper were six years old, had no verifiable chain of custody and haven't been submitted to be tested by a reputable independent laboratory?
Daniel M. PlesseJeffrey Harr Do you want newer samples? They have always had " verifiable chain" Why did debunkers use the NIST guy? Why the fuck would anyone use an inside guy to look through the dust a second time. The first time he was shilling for the government and second time he didn't bother to ignite the chips. What happened to all the scientist?
What do think is causing the reactions in the photo above? What the fuck is wrong with you?
The HTA arson (thermite) problem was widely reported before 9/11 and was defined as "rocket fuel" but somehow the public just can't connect the dots back to these pre 9/11 dated reports. Why can't the narrative can't go back in time and pick up the issues again?
No worries, I am here to save the day.
At the end I provide a dumb down version of what HTA Arson is and what it all means and how it connects to 9/11 for the common folk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KssL7vXT-Ck
In the early 1990s, quite a stir arose in the fire investigation community about the idea of High Temperature Accelerants being used in and around Seattle. Though the investigators there didn't know what they were facing, they put out a video detailing four fires that had aspects that they didn't understand and that they felt endangered firefighters. One result was that a team of investigators from places such as Sandia National Labs, Lawrence Livermore Labs, private firms in and around the Seattle area and others tested a theory that the materials found at various fire scenes might have been in large part, metal fuels with solid oxidizers. The result was that a few got ahold of this and started touting a theory that the "mob" was running around with "rocket fuel" and starting fires.
A test fire was set in Puyallup, Washington in an abandoned store that I recall was around 14,000 sq. feet. Several 5-gallon buckets of such metallic/oxidizer mixes (each of which I recall weighed more than 50 lbs.) were placed in the building and ignited remotely. The result was that the large, open building transitioned into flashover in a few minutes. The test was successful in showing such a mix could work to envelop a large volume building in fire in a short time. If my memory serves me correctly, the ceiling of the building was exposed wood. An important point that many who watched the video missed is that the overall contribution to the energy release was mostly from the wood, not the metal/oxidizer mix.
What followed that test were claims of HTA fires happening all around the country. The Wall Street Journal even had an article on the front page (I believe it was in early- to mid-1994) questioning whether a massive conspiracy existed throughout the country. A sub-headline even stated something like, "Space flight may offer an answer".
After subsequently examining investigative records of around 25 fires, I found that only 4 seemed to suggest traits of a fire that might have involved fuels that could support high temperatures. Interestingly enough, none of the four fires had characteristics very similar to one another. One may have used a commercially available thermite mix, one left behind traces of a mix of various metals such as magnesium, manganese, copper, perhaps cobalt, and others, one was in a metal plating operation containing various kinds of ionic mixes.
There's no doubt that the correct mixture of metal fuels and solid oxidizers can act as an intense "match" causing high temperature reactions, but there is no known evidence that the use of such materials has reached huge proportions as claimed. Also, the materials involved in such fires are quickly consumed and would not be expected to survive days of water application only to ignite later in small displays such as those shown in that video.
A: Yes.
The photograph of the plume that occurred approximately one hour into the fire was not the only evidence upon which the expert relied, though his reliance on the chemical analysis was certainly misplaced.
The chemical analysis found large quantities of calcium carbonate and small quantities of aluminum oxide. From this it was hypothesized that the HTA mixture was calcium sulfate (plaster of Paris) and metallic aluminum powder. No metallic aluminum was found, despite a diligent search. Some calcium sulfate was identified, but this is a component of wallboard, concrete and cinder blocks.
In consultation with a chemist, it was hypothesized that the following series of chemical reactions took place:
CaSO4 + 2 Al ---> CaO + Al2O3+S (Calcium sulfate + aluminum powder reacts to give calcium oxide + aluminum oxide + sulfur + lots of heat)
CaO + H2O ---> Ca(OH)2 (Calcium oxide, also known as lime, reacts with water to give calcium hydroxide)
Ca(OH)2 + CO2 ---> CaCO3 + H2O, (Calcium hydroxide absorbs carbon dioxide from the air to make calcium carbonate + water)
thus explaining the presence of the calcium carbonate. While this complicated reaction is certainly possible, there was no evidence to support it, particularly when one considers that calcium carbonate constitutes approximately 25% of wood ash. A more appropriate interpretation of the finding of calcium carbonate would be the following chemical reaction:
Wood + Fire ---> White Ash (25% CaCO3).
The wood ash exhibited a slightly elevated concentration of barium compounds, but that was to be expected as the samples had been exposed to rain and snow for 6 months prior to collection, reducing the relative concentration of the more soluble calcium compounds.
Elemental analysis of wood ash is not a common fire investigative procedure, but if one plans to rely on it to prove that a fire is somehow not "normal," one should at least conduct a literature search to find out what is actually "normal." Failing to do the literature search, and being presented with test results that were capable of being interpreted to the advantage of either side, the expert in this case chose to rely upon only that interpretation favoring the side by which he was employed.
The kind of interpretation put forward by the expert in this case is typical of fire investigations that reach incorrect conclusions: data that is commonplace is presented as evidence that something uncommon happened.
John Lentini, CFI, D-ABC Fire Investigation Consultant Florida Keys [www.firescientist.com]
The Wall Street Journal a few days reported a plague of high intensity
arson fires. One researcher thought they were jet fuel. But I think it
was some sort of metal fire for it razes the building in a matter of
minutes. It turns concrete into glass and melts iron beams. What was
the cause?
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Jay Arthur Woods
10/17/93
I could probably get the high temperatures and concrete and steel melting
by using thermite with calcium, silicon, and aluminum metals and iron
oxide. It would indicate its use by the lack of gypsum in the concrete and
the mixing of the steel and concrete (no obvious source of the large
amount of iron).
Daniel M. PlesseI posted this stuff last night and bought his book
MacQueen’s worked on the 9/11 earthquakes but that didn't go over well because the dumb down Truth Movement bought most of the official theory without ever knowing it . His efforts influence my videos and I made sure to record the sounds of quakes and comments of earth movement during that Tuesday morning.
Mary Pishney Daniel, your point to me is...? ALL media is controlled by five international corporations and all are puppets of the NWO.
