What was World Trade Building 7 "Pull it" 2018

when he says "Pull it" and his hands fly out, his body language says he means the building 

OEM knew about the second plane and the Towers coming down 

AT THIS POINT COMMUNICATED WITH CHIEF

PERUGGIA VIA THE LAND LINE AND WE WERE DIRECTED TO

REPORT TO 7 WORLD TRADE TO SET UP OEM BOTH MYSELF AND

EMT ZARRILLO WENT TO THE 23RD FLOOR OF 7 WORLD TRADE

AND BEGAN TO LOG ONTO THE TERMINALS AS WELL AS INFORM

THE CITYWIDE DISPATCH SUPERVISOR THAT WE WERE

ACTIVATING OEM AT THIS TIME AND OPERATIONS WERE TO BEGIN  

MOMENTS THERE AFTER WE WERE ADVISED BY THE

STAFF AT OEM THAT WE WERE TO VACATE THE BUILDING THAT

THEY BELIEVED THERE WAS ANOTHER POSSIBLE PLANE ON ITS

WAY AND PROCEEDED DOWN THE STAIRWELL OF WORLD TRADE

ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE GROUND FLOOR

AT THIS POINT WE TRIED TO GATHER ALL OUR

EQUIPMENT GATHER SOME EQUIPMENT FROM WORLD TRADE

SET UP TREATMENT AREA AT THE BOTTOM AND WE WERE MET

BY ONE OF THE DOCTORS FROM OMA DONT RECALL HIS

NAME AT THIS POINT

Explosion?

ID SAY WITHIN 20 MINUTES TO HALF AN HOUR

OF BEING DOWN THERE OR TRYING TO SET EVERYTHING UP ALL

OF SUDDEN LOUD NOISE RUBBLE AND SAND AND DUST

EVERYTHING JUST STARTED TOPPLING DOWN  

What was "Pull it" ?
2018 Barry and Hess talk of explosives and thus accounts for all damage and was not the North Tower

"The major concern at that time at that particular location was number Seven, building number seven, which had taken a big hit from the north tower. When it fell, it ripped steel out from between the third and sixth floors across the facade on Vesey Street. We were concerned that the fires on several floors and the missing steel would result in the building collapsing."

Photos if a blast going around the building 

Building 7 Blast Ring 

“I was working as a journalist for Gannett News at Ground Zero that day, and I remember very clearly what I saw and heard.”

“Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building – since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall.” Larry Silverstein's "Pull It" fits perfectly next

"I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."WMV video download (490kB)

So The Smartest thing to do is "pull it" 

2015 Summary of key evidence of man-made collapse of Building 7

1. Danny Jowenko WTC 7 is a controlled demolition
2. Foreknowledge,
3. the strange dirt reported by Leslie E. Robertson,
4. Free Fall,
5. BPAT John Gross dancing on WTC 7 debris shows clear arson,
6. eye witness on 1010 Wins,
7. Flash Witness,
8. Boom witness  Building 7 Witness Kevin Mcfadden
9. no detailed photographs of the south face,
10. not one investigator was allow near the pile,
11. removal started that night,
12. excessive heat,  The NIST “no molten metal” guy
13. strange flashes recorded by CNN,
14. witnesses Barry Jennings,
15. Micheal Hess,
16. MISSING STEEL Witness Chief Frank Fellini,
17 the drawings show the front of building was Scooped Out Shyam Sunder NIST investigator
18. OEM directors attending events at other locations, Richard Rotanz walking around building 7 looking at elevators blown down the hall, 
19. Vince DeMentri runs into WTC 7 but someone decides NOT to release the video of that adventure. 
20. NIST drawings removed  key elements WTF News | Baran Hines & Ralph Morelli
21. NIST Not releasing  3,370 files which The NIST Director determined might jeopardize public safety" bull shit
22. Police Officer Witness 
23. "Move it back, the building is about to blow up. "
24 "building is going to collapse, nothing information"
25. "WTC 7 The Building Looks blown up, Just like Oklahoma city bombing"







Jeffrey Scott Shapiro was arrested for harassing friends of John and Patsy Ramsey
"Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building – since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall."

Jeffrey Scott Shapiro
This Sounds like the "Pull it" story

"But he got up on the rig next to me and he 
said basically his concern was that he didn't want to 
lose anymore firefighters, that too many guys were dead 
already, and he basically called Mosier aside and told 
him, "Get everybody out of 90 West. Fuck the 
building. Let it go."
 "We  have a six-story building over there, a seven-story 
building, fully involved." At that time he said, "7 
has got fire on several floors." He said, "We've got a 
ten-story over there, another ten-story over there, a
six-story over there, a 13-story over there." He just 
looked at me and said, "Fuck 'em all. Let 'em burn."
Then we found out, I guess around 3:00 
o'clock, that they thought 7 was going to collapse. 
So, of course, we've got guys all in this pile over
here and the main concern was get everybody out, and I 
guess it took us over an hour and a half, two hours to 
get everybody out of there. 

Basically, we fell back for 7 to collapse, 
and then we waited a while and it got a lot more 
organized, I would guess. By then there was some heavy 
equipment showing up and the Chiefs took over"

(Debunking Larry Silverstein's "Pull it" quote page) line by line
https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/larrysilverstein%27s%22pullit%22quote

1. "that he ordered his building to be demolished!" Whenever "Pull it" falls short - other witness pick it up and nail the crime to the cross.  9/11 Debunkers:  ignore best the evidence with the hopes the memory hole and enormity of the crime will be enough to hide the crime of the century from short attention spans and other distractions.. Jeffrey Shapiro said WTC 7 was a demolition  have publicly stated that this was fact and is not even an issue.

“And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."
Who made the decision to pull? They. They is key.

Notice that issue has not been solved, investigated by NIST etc. Phone records are good place to start. "Does the FDNY demolish buildings with explosives? No". The NYFD also does not fight fires 1. Area is empty of people OR if the building like WTC 7 was empty.. So the 
"they pull their people away from buildings that are too dangerous to be near." is not correct either.

We have never, ever heard the term ‘pull it’ being used to refer to the explosive demolition of a building, and neither has any blast team we’ve spoken with.”

-Brent Blanchard said that
"similarity relates more to military explosive demolition than to building implosions"

What did Silverstein mean by 'Pull it'?  Well His body language means pull operations or they message he's selling at the time interview.  Lying is hard thing to do and most people should not try it at home.  

WTC 7 Massive fires debunked. 

   1. Richard Rotanz inspected WTC 7 from the inside.
   2. A Reporter Runs Into WTC Building 7 means No Fires 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAYU_JFYH1M
The details like fireman in the building 7 are still false. 
Richard Rotanz inspected WTC 7 building internally
(unless he is fireproof, there was no fire) 
Richard Rotanz quote "The elevator was blown out of its shaft" BBC. Is he a moron and confessing to a conspiracy? Yep.

3. So what was all that smoke? Answer WTC 7 got hit with 
Super Hot Molten Materials for example of molten or red hot materials in the dust cloud.

9/11 Molten Collection Dr. Mark Heath

Any Steel from WTC 1 was super hot

Super Hot Molten Material 

"Pull it" was only part one . The Other missing Unknowns and problems is photographs, videos of the damage to the south side. All Photos of WTC 7 is completely missing.  Photographer Steve Spak and Photographer Tom Franklin might have something. Drawings and comments of "missing steel" (7060 page Oral Histories Frank FELLINI page 3549) is all we have!! Conspiracy? Yep !! BIG blank space! NIST was only allowed show a drawing Building 7 damage from FEMA's building performance report... All video and photographic evidence is still not "safe" for public.

Who Is Steve Spak?

(WTC 7 - BBC The Third Tower - Conspiracy Files never shows a good photo but they sure talk it) even this film is edited between 39:50 - 40:00.

Who Is Steve Spak?

Two Drawings

http://www.fema.gov/media-library-data/20130726-1512-20490-2227/403_ch5.pdf Frank FELLINI page 3549 When it fell (WTC 1 North Tower), it ripped steel out from between the third and sixth floors across the facade on Vesey Street. We were concerned that the fires on several floors and the missing steel would result in the building collapsing. Only explosives could "ripped steel out" as reported by Barry Jennings and Hess Is "Pull it" used to mean "Withdraw firefighters from danger? NO!

No expert has used "pull it" or talked with anyone about "pulling it"!
"9/11 debunking the myths" will shorten the word to "pull" which is not the same. "Pull" does not equal "Pull it"
https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/%22pull%22%3Dwithdrawfirefightersfromdanger 
Lets search 7060 oral history PDF for "pull" and "pull it" anyway.Was is THOMAS FlTZPATRlCK who spoke to Silverstein?

Building 7 Timeline in seven parts are as follows. 1. Discuss what to do "Pull it" 2. Release News 3. Kick people out 4. Start flashes 5. Explosion 6. Building falls 7. clean up (Analysis of dust and debris of WTC building 7 all point to stranger then fiction causes. Comments and witnesses are rare at best. Leslie E. Robertson during a Stanford University Talk said the building turned back into it components and is the only witness to WTC 7 aftermath. While debris had strange HTA arson evidence as shown below with John Gross.

WTC 7 HTA Arson John Gross NTSB

John Gross HTA Arson Details Crimes Great Article.
http://wtfrly.com/2015/01/31/911-truth-nist-no-molten-metal-guy-melted-steel/#.VM6EYGj-kgQ 3. Kick people out evidence

World Trade Building 7 Witness Amy Goodman Interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cZMe6cS0jU

Building 7 falling down "no information guy"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvjOJdHN-hk

Firefighters kicked out on 9/11 cleanup Iron Workers update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvn1cSwOO5A

9/11 Search Rescue Kicked OUT to Watch WTC 7 FALL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgUXSL0_jb0

4. Start Flashes Evidence WPIX Flash Witness, 1010 Wins Witness CNN Flashes Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR1zzzIPfds

CNN Televised WTC 7 Demolition Squibs Flashes Right in your FACE Update 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF0jTfO168sCNN Televised WTC 7 Demolition Right in your face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Qyjki7D6Y

FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) 2004 Tapes are key limited hangout. 


Why we never needed Silverstein's 'Pull It' to prove WTC 7 was a controlled demolition and should have been left out of the 9/11 movement completely and in this instance the 9 11 debunkers are more right then wrong but more wrong then right. "Pull It" without hand movements means "pull the building" however "Pull IT" with the correct hand movement means pull the operation. 

   “I remember getting a call from the fire department commander
    Telling me that they were not sure they're gonna be able to   
    contain the fire....
    I said, you know we had such terrible loss of life
    maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it ”

During this time his hands fly out for a second. He really means  GET OUT OF THE AREA!

You never hear the question by the narrator however you do hear him talk about building 7. However it could be about anything. It would be helpful to get all the details first before jumping to conclusions.

Photographer Tom Franklin Remembers!

Core of Corruption at 2hrs 13mins and 35secs 

"building is going to collapse, no informations"

To me this means "give up" or "pull back" BUT this sets up the orders to evacuate for?

Who is this guy?

He knows "WTC 7 was empty. It will only take a few minutes." What will? BOOM!

what else ..controlled demolition!

The great getting kicked out evidence and delay
getting back in.

#2 Kicked out

Evidence #3

Evidence #4 Photographer Tom Franklin Remembers! He sure does!

At the corner of Church and Vesey, where Deborah Mardenfeld was hit..

At the corner of Church and Vesey, where Deborah Mardenfeld was hit.. "There are pictures of the second plane advancing on the south tower, its silver underbelly visible as it tilts toward its target. " (Flight 175 did NOT have a silver underbelly however many people reported this fact and assumed 2nd plane was flight 11, the flight 175 was reported as missing -- also 50% 9/11 planes were recorded cancelled 9/28/2005 and 01/14/2002 ).. i.e

"The engine portion came to rest at Church and Murray Streets; the landing gear on the roof of 45 Park Place." CAPTAIN JAMES YAKIMOVICH "WHERE WE REACHED CHURCH AND VESEY WHEN THE SECOND PLANE IMPACTED" " LOT OF CIVILIANS OBSERVING THE FIRST FIRE BURNING AND WHEN THE SECOND IMPACT HAPPENED EVERYONE WENT RUNNING LOT OF CIVILIAN INJURIES THATS ALL REALLY SAW WAS CIVILIANS INJURED OTHER AMBULANCES ON THE SCENE THAT WERE ABLE TO RESPOND AND REMOVE THESE VICTIMS FEW ESU RIGS RESPONDED ASSISTED COUPLE OF PD WITH THIS" W. MERA we're almost at Church and all of a sudden a massive explosion. Unbelievable. The sound was incredible. I remember right before that I saw a helicopter passing by.. maybe it was a helicopter, we were thinking a bomb, but we knew at this point something wasn't right. So we ended up parking on the corner of Church and Vesey. We parked the rig We were walking up Vesey and we saw parts of the plane on the ground still burning. I've never been in an earthquake, but it couldn't have been any worse than that, any major earthquake.

Debbie Mardenfeld, 30 Story #1 No Plane Parts Yet "Falling debris had ripped the flesh from the back of the American Express administrator's torso, sheared her left heel and shattered her legs. "

When Debbie Mardenfeld was wheeled into New York University Downtown Hospital—minutes after a passerby, project manager Paul Dowe, 43, found her in the rubble of the World Trade Center—  This sounds another person.. 

Debbie Mardenfeld, 30 Story #2 Blasted! 

The day after the blast, he says, Mardenfeld grabbed a tablet and wrote, "So doc, my butt is smaller?" Says Ginsberg: "She has the attitude to get through this."

"Doctors warn that Mardenfeld still faces the danger of infection in coming weeks. But if she survives, with luck she will be able to walk again—and dance at her wedding to Greg St. John next year. Dr. Gerald Ginsberg, NYU Downtown's director of plastic surgery, is optimistic. The day after the blast, he says, Mardenfeld grabbed a tablet and wrote, "So doc, my butt is smaller?" Says Ginsberg: "She has the attitude to get through this." 

Debbie Mardenfeld, 30 Story #3 There was a large tire next to her on Vesey Street?

WORLD TRADE CENTER TASK FORCE INTERVIEWEMT ORLANDO MARTINEZ
Interview Date: November 1, 2001
Transcribed by Elisabeth F. Nason

Once the second plane hit, the shrapnel from either the plane or the building started hitting the top of the bus and the area around us. Anybody who was near the ambulance ran inside the ambulance and ducked for cover. 

"A. Oh, yes. Once we started taking off, I guess

30 feet in front of us, there was a lady on the ground

by the curb and she was just waving her arms. That's

all she could wave. Her legs were crushed. Apparently

she got hit by part of the landing gear, one of the

tires of the airplane. There was a large tire next to

her."

 "forward down Vesey Street towards Beekman Hospital"

 

Stairwell B
Tina Hansen, 41 
Two men team up to carry a woman in a wheelchair to safety 

Tina Hansen is quick and nimble in her wheelchair; diagnosed with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis at age 3, she has been using one for most of her life. But when the first plane hit the World Trade Center, Hansen, a marketing supervisor at the Port Authority of NY and NJ, was immobilized by the impossible task of descending 68 flights of stairs. Although she had a special lightweight chair designed for just such a scenario (it had been given to her after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing), it would be of little use without a couple of strong-armed carriers. Says Hansen: "I didn't know how I was going to get out." http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20135405,00.html


The most important issue right now is getting a precise time element to rule out the north tower collapse. If we can rule out the North Tower collapse excuse we can put  another nail in the official account.  Can you look around? Research this? Thanks 
WAS Michael Riconosciuto's  a-neutronic bomb used on 9/11?

"Riconosciuto's talents were much in demand. He had created the a-neutronic bomb (or "Electro-Hydrodynamic Gaseous Fuel Device"), which sank the ground level of the Nevada test site by 30 feet when a prototype was tested. Samuel Cohen, the inventor of the neutron bomb, said of Riconosciuto: "I've spoken to Michael Riconosciuto (the inventor of the a-neutronic bomb) and he's an extraordinarily bright guy. I also have a hunch, which I can't prove, that they both (Riconosciuto and Lavos, his partner) indirectly work for the CIA." 

Riconosciuto's bomb made suitcase nukes obsolete, because it achieved near-atomic explosive yields, but could be more easily minaturized. You could have a suitcase a-neutronic bomb, or a briefcase a-neutronic bomb, or simply a lady's purse a-neutronic bomb. Or just pull out your wallet for identification and... The Meridian Arms Corporation, as well as the Universities of California and Chicago owned a piece of the technology."http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/bin_laden_osman.html

Dan Plesse <dan.plesse@gmail.com>	2:59 PM (8 minutes ago)
to G , bcc: Antonio.Dajer

I hope Antonio can pinpoint the exact time of all these events (power outages,  seismology) on 9/11. Other possible time stamps can be found using text messages via pagers. remember those ? haha 

https://911.wikileaks.org/files/index.html

I tried the USGS and their database which should contain the information. Emails have not been successful. 

insider reports look grim and point to an unthinkable cause.  

"It is not possible to infer (with detail sufficient to meet the demands of civil engineers in an emergency situation) just what the near-in ground motions must have been."   Won-Young Kim
Collapses of the two WTC towers generated large seismic waves, observed in five states and up to 428 km away The north tower collapse was the largest seismic source and had local magnitude M_L 2.3. From this, we infer that ground shaking of the WTC towers was not a major contributor to the collapse or damage to surrounding buildings.
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2001EOSTr..82..565K

Am I reading this right? If the towers were the caused the shaking then how can the shaking be ruled out as the cause? 

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/01EO00330/pdf

danp5648

1 week ago (edited)

+Gordon Liddy.
Shouldn't the sentence be

"ground shaking BY the WTC towers" and not
"ground shaking OF the WTC towers"

Gordon Liddy

1 week ago

+danp5648 I agree that would sound more appropriate.

There are surely many people who know the official story is a lie but don't want to risk their careers.

I do wonder if english is Kim, Won-Young's first language. 

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The title of that report "Nuclear explosion seismology, 7260 Theory and modeling" is not open to the public and I am sure if you have any swing with those folks. 

The databases would have time stamps, location, depth and strength as columns of data and recordings would fill sheets of data as many seismic waves were recording but on seismic grams. which are public. The digital recordings have NOT been located.

  

Also The Statue of Liberty was closed and yet it opened at 8:30 am before events of 9/11 started. Email with people also has not returned with good results.

The O.E.M was locked early with officers attending a committee meeting at City Hall about Jackie Robinson Park which is not the OEM's responsibility. They left the committee meeting went directly to the North Tower and on to another location avoiding their office at the 23 floor of WTC 7.  James Farmer, senior counsel to the 9/11 Commission was unable to trace the movements of Richard J.Sheier who died in 2010. 

Two groups of people attempted to enter the 23 floor became trapped after an explosion had blown the stairwell away at the 6th floor. They were filmed yelling from 8th floor for help. They were told to get out of that building.   
 

waOn Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Gerald Ginsberg <geg3001@med.cornell.edu> wrote:

Dan,
Most of the hospital adminiatrators from that time have moved on. The hospital was taken over by Cornell two years ago and that cleaned the slate. There isn't even a communications department left who might know some of this stuff. However, Anthony Ercolano is a very nice man who may still work there in administration and he may point you in the right direction.
Dr. G.

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From: Dan Plesse [dan.plesse@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 5:59 PM
To: Gerald Ginsberg
Subject: Re: Dear Gerald Ginsberg I have a small 9/11 question about

Thanks for the quick reply. I asked Con Edison also but I wonder if a Hospital Administer

would be a better source however I can't find a single email address. 

maybe Antonio.Dajer@downtownhospital.org

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Gerald Ginsberg <geg3001@med.cornell.edu> wrote:

Sorry, Sir,
I have no idea of those times at present.
Dr. G.

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From: Dan Plesse [dan.plesse@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 4:11 PM
To: Gerald Ginsberg
Subject: Dear Gerald Ginsberg I have a small 9/11 question about

Dear Gerald Ginsberg,
     
                  I have a small 9/11 question about the earthquake you reported and I was hoping you could help with the timing issue.

9::03  a.m impact Flight 175
?:??  Ms. Mardenfeld transported to NYU
?:??  Ms. Mardenfeld operation started
?:??  NYU Downtown Hospital Emergency Room Lost Power.
?:??  about hour later during Ms. Mardenfeld operation an Earthquake occurred.


The world has assumed it was the North Tower I was hoping you could help unset this commonly held belief using your memory and records of some kind.

Also was the quake felt before or after the power issue or much later.

The seismic record for BRNJ shows a very large spike btw.

Thanks for your help.


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Gordon Liddy

1 hour ago

+danp5648 Something I stumbled onto.
 Earthquakes or nuclear explosions?: seismic clues to dirty deeds

http://www.rsc.org/Education/Teachers/Resources/jesei/nuclear/students.htm

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Dr Cahill's Discovery of Anaerobic Chlorine Fueled Combustion

9::03  a.m impact Flight 175 

?:??  Ms. Mardenfeld transported to NYU

?:??  Ms. Mardenfeld operation started

10:28 a.m the North Tower collapsed

?:??  NYU Downtown Hospital Emergency Room Lost Power.

?:??  hour later during Ms. Mardenfeld operation an Earthquake

The burns were caused by something else and not fuel and 'they' are the doctors, first responders etc did not smell fuel. The game is to connect everything to normal things. Burns were not connected to Fuel and falling buildings did not cause the earthquake during Ms. Mardenfeld operations after hours have passed. The burns were at the highest degree. Ms. Mardenfeld was over by WTC 7 and was reported to be burned. Most likely blown up by a blast.


When Did NYU Downtown Hospital Emergency Room Lose Power on 9/11? I need a time stamp. Everyone assumes is has to be the North Tower. What else could it be? The doctors were operating Ms. Mardenfeld who was awarded roughly 8.6 million by the federal September 11 Victim Compensation Fund for about an hour. It seems at little late in the day to blame it on the North Tower.
http://youtu.be/4-WUfrnPh2M

Published on Jan 3, 2015

More 9/11 earthquake witnesses. Hospital lost power too.

When Did NYU Downtown Hospital Emergency Room Lose Power on 9/11?
The doctors were operating Ms. Mardenfeld who was awarded roughly 8.6 million by the federal September 11 Victim Compensation Fund for about an hour. It seems at little late in the day to blame it on the North Tower.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/04/nyr...




New York Presbyterian/ Lower Manhattan Hospital location
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.71026...

9/11 Emergency Room Documentary
http://youtu.be/hRw8HkwwLVw?t=32m41s

Code Yellow: Hospital at Ground Zero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjJsk...

NYU Downtown Hospital Emergency Room earthquake

NYU Hospital came down in police cars to help. During the day, the hospital lost power, water and phones. They did have a back-up generator so they could retain electricity.
http://www.911families.org/wp-content...

Code Yellow: Hospital at Ground Zero 

2003
Distributed by Cinema Guild, 115 West 30th Street, Suite 800, New York, NY 10001; 212-685-6242
Produced by Daedalus Productions, Inc.
Directed by Nina Rosenblum
VHS, color, 42 min.
Sr. High - Adult 
Health Sciences 


Reviewed by Michael Fein, Coordinator of Library Services, Central Virginia Community College, Lynchburg, VA 

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Gordon Liddy

1 day ago

+danp5648 Interesting, I was curious how far away it was & found this "New York Downtown Hospital, founded two years after the Broad Street bombing of 1920, sits just four blocks from the northeast corner of what was the World Trade Center."www.healthleadersmedia.com/content/83619/topic/WS_HLM2_HOM/Lessons-Learned-New-York-Downtown-Hospital-and-911.html

The # 1 factor in the development of a nuclear detonations EMP side effect is the altitude of the detonation (obviously the size of the nuke is a huge factor too). With a ground level/near ground level nuclear detonation(s) the EMP will be highly localized & far less sever than with a high altitude detonation. Circuits will only burn out if the pulse is stronger than they're designed to handle but power will be temporarily disrupted. Patricia Ondrovic stated communications in the ambulance were out for 20 mins or so after each collapse. In addition to the cars there's a report of a burnt out cell phone tower in the area (I have not investigated that claim made by Dr. Bill Deagle so I can't confirm it).

I haven't found the specific time of her surgery at NYUDH. I did find info about her injuries. "Mardenfeld almost bled to death that day and needed an immediate transfusion of 31 pints of blood. Her buttocks were sliced off, her back was split open, her intestines were punctured and her legs were crushed and fractured, among other injuries." http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/8m-9-11-victim-survivor-hit-2nd-jet-wreckage-article-1.623597

Btw, an underground detonation has no EMP so the EMP evidence alone proves Khalzov's theory, at least, partially wrong. 

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Gordon Liddy

19 hours ago (edited)

+danp5648 The link to the PDF proving radiation protocols were used on 9/11 is no longer working. Now something else comes up. Just thought I'd let ya know. I'm trying to find the info elsewhere to replace it. 

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danp5648

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+Gordon Liddy this PDF "lessons learned"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLeWJCOElMMWgxbHc/view?usp=sharing