Flight 77 success meant Flight 93 is no longer needed

 

Flight 77 success meant Flight 93 was no longer needed

Flight 93 flight plan on its onboard computer was altered and the entire system was changed mid flight to allow Flight 93 to enter DC airspace. ATC have claimed to have made the change and the flight itself claimed to have been to source of the change or both the flight and ATC at the same time made changes to allow flight 93 to attack an unknown target in the DC area. Reagan Airport (DCA) even updated their system to schedule flight 93 to land and gates were cleared for flight 93. This change allowed flight 93 to safety enter the DC area. Computer system today still have Flight 93 landing at Reagan Airport (DCA). Flight Aware updated their data to read Reagan Airport (DCA). All the data points point to one idea that Flight 93 was flight 77 backup plan. Flight 77 success meant Flight 93 was no longer needed.

Flight 93 radar anomaly

The reason Justice enters a new flight plan for Flight 93 is unclear. A minute earlier, the hijacker pilot on Flight 93 reprogrammed the plane’s navigational system for the new destination of Reagan Airport (see 9:55 a.m. September 11, 2001). [LONGMAN, 2002, PP. 182; 9/11 COMMISSION, 7/24/2004, PP. 457] And according to the St. Petersburg Times, controllers typically only change a plane’s destination when this is requested by the pilots. [ST. PETERSBURG TIMES, 9/12/2001] But one of the FAA chronologies will state that Justice’s change to the flight plan is “not a result of any communication with the pilot.” [FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, 9/11/2001]
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=linday_justice_1

FLIGHT 93 PRIMARY RADAR RETURN AFTER CRASH PATH

FLIGHT 93 PRIMARY RADAR RETURN AFTER CRASH PATH 

"Jarrah dialed in the VHF omnidirectional range (VOR) frequency for the VOR navigational aid at Reagan National Airport at 09:55:11 to direct the plane toward Washington, D.C."    

Not only did Flight 93 adjust its destination via VOR but it also was recorded as landed!  We can assume or at least 
hope that the landing part is not a verified by rather an estimate, but you never know, right. 

How did people on the ground know about the flight 93 flight plan change?

"Soon, someone at the controls of Flight 93 filed a new flight plan, listing Reagan National Airport in Washington as the destination." Is this even possible, or is this a case for Remote Control?

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2001-sep-20-mn-47836-story.html Between 4:45 – 6:45 am: Hijacker-Pilot Jarrah phones girlfriend in Germany
In a Newark, New Jersey hotel room, Ziad Jarrah, places five telephone calls to Lebanon (his home country), one call to France, and one call to his girlfriend, Aysel Senguen, in Germany.4 In this brief call, he tells Senguen that he loves her.5 Jarrah and three male companions check out of the Days Inn at approximately 6:48 am6 and head to Newark International Airport to board United Airlines Flight 93.
Until 8:00 am: Passengers relay changes in travel plans
At least ten of the passengers and crew on Flight 93 had planned to take later or earlier flights or found themselves on Flight 93 due to schedule changes.19 One of these, passenger Lauren Grandcolas, phones her husband in San Rafael, California and leaves a message saying that she will arrive home an hour earlier than expected. She had been scheduled for United Airlines Flight 91, but her car service arrived at the airport early, allowing her to take Flight 93 instead. “Hey, I just want to let you know I’m on the eight o’clock instead of the 9:20,” Lauren told her husband.20
8:42 am: Flight 93 takes off 25 minutes late
Air traffic is typically heavy at the Newark Airport, causing delays on the runway. When United Airlines Flight 93 finally takes off, it is running about 25 minutes late.26
8:42-8:46 am: A second plane is hijacked

Every success launched another flight or two flights on 9/11

9:22 am: United Airlines transmits message from first officer’s wife
United Airlines sends a text message to First Officer Leroy Homer at the request of his wife, who is concerned about him after learning about the attacks on the World Trade Center.43

What did the wife say and what was his response. Did he say that the cockpit was locked and 
he was fine?  Was the crash axe taken off the side panel? Was any of the crash axes found for any 
of the 9/11 hijacked flights? 

9:26 am: Flight 93 pilot asks United for confirmation of warning message
Flight 93 pilot, Jason Dahl, responds to the Ballinger warning he received at 9:24: “ED CON9:28 am: Cleveland Center hears struggle as Flight 93 is hijacked.

Was the "warning message" was actually a recording of a fake struggle for Flight 93 which the pilot is confused about. Jason Dahl has no idea that someone hijacked the radio transmissions and 
selling the fake 9/11 situation to Air Traffic Controllers. If I am reading this correctly that is or 
was the warning message just so happens to be sent at the same time as the recorded conflict?      

What did Jason Dahl, say in responds to the Ballinger "warning" i.e fake recording is the question? 
https://www.nps.gov/flni/learn/historyculture/september-11-2001-timeline.htm

Its possible that "Jason Dahl, response" was the struggle for Flight 93 or was it? If so Jason Dahl
never did respond to Ballinger because how can you say a response back to Ballinger was the 
recording of the struggle because that is NOT a response. 

It seems like the pilots wife was all the early warning they needs for a proper defense 
of the cockpit. What does "First Officer Leroy Homer Wife Melodie Homer say she said to him? 

"I just said, 'Send the message and say I'm glad he's OK,' " she recalled.
How does she know he's OK? lame..  She had a chance to change things. A good warning 
messages and details about the events of hijackings was all she need to convey. 
She don't feel bad about it and no second guessing her lame message.  However if United was 
sending messages why didn't they better inform the pilots? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeRoy_Homer_Jr.

9:32 am: Hijacker’s announcement heard by Cleveland Center and other pilots An out-of-breath hijacker, probably Jarrah, makes this announcement which was heard and recorded by Air Traffic Control: “Ladies and Gentlemen: Here the captain, please sit down keep remaining sitting. We have a bomb on board. So, sit.” Jarrah then programmed the plane’s autopilot to turn the aircraft around and head east.52 The cockpit voice recorder also captures the voice of a woman, most likely a flight attendant, who is held captive in the cockpit. Based on this overheard transmission, Cleveland Center reports to the Herndon Command Center (FAA) that Flight 93 may have a bomb on board.53

 Jarrah makes the same mistake as flight 11's Atta and starts making  public announcements over the air. 
How many "mistakes" does it take to make to turn a "mistake" into a planned controlled intended pattern?  Someone wanted the hijackings to be clear to everyone while at the same time masking the 
mistakes as mistakes. 

“We just, ah, we didn’t get it clear . . . Is that United Ninety Three calling?” 

ATC makes the same mistake as Flight 11 and suddenly can't hear the transmissions. 

“shockingly calm.” flight attendants start making calls to the wrong phone number outside predefined protocols just like Flight 11 and contently low flying flight enables cell phones to be made 
which the FBI hijacks for their their "investigation" and is never made public. 

9:58:55 am: Cockpit Voice Recorder captures English-speaking voices:
The cockpit voice recorder captures the voice of a native English-speaking male: “In the cockpit! In the cockpit!” 

They somehow don't know who this is?  They don't say unidentified English speaking voices. 

 A native English-speaking male voice or voices says, “Stop him” and “Let’s get Them"

They are trying to sell the idea that the mic is left on and the passengers are heard. Is this even possible?
Can someone test this idea out?  

Was the cockpit voice recorder released to the public because Aysel Senguen 
could then say that is NOT Jarrah so the cockpit voice recorder will forever remain 
hidden to cover up the true crime of 9/11. 


 

9/11 Explosions USGS

KEITH MURPHY FROM
ENGINE 47

Seismologist Won-Young Kim assumed that the building fell as a whole and as an intact object which then "generated seismic waves comparable to a magnitude 2.1 earthquake". Does he know exactly what hit the ground to create a magnitude 2 earthquake?

"Nuclear explosion seismology, 7260 Theory and modeling"

"It is not possible to infer (with detail sufficient to meet the demands of civil engineers in an emergency situation) just what the near-in ground motions must have been."  Won-Young Kim

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2002AGUFM.S11D..03K

“Urban Earthquakes, Nuclear Bombs and 9/11″
  Won-Young Kim

“He is one of the leading researchers in the United States in methods of
using seismic waves to discriminate between earthquakes, industrial
explosions in mines and quarries, and underground nuclear explosions. “
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/news-events/urban-earthquakes-nuclear-bombs-and-911

Is Won-Young Kim trying to tell us something about 9/11?

Steve Marriott

, said "Kim believes the minor tremors were the result of a whopping big pile of rubble from a collapsing building hitting the ground as the collapse ended." 

Dan Plesse

Just now

“Kim believes the minor tremors were the result of a whopping big pile” So the towers turned into a “whopping big pile” and that hit the ground even after Kim said it was not possible to infer just what the near-in ground motion must have been because he can’t say explosives for some reason like the other guy?

We all know this statement is false, but does Won-Young Kim know exactly what hit the ground to create a magnitude 2.1 earthquake?

 He has just two possibilities remaining.

1. A large section of a WTC perimeter column dislodged. 
2. The towers didn't cause the earthquake and it was something else like an explosive. 

Paul Earle USGS refers to 9/11 as an explosive event which can be correctly assumed given no other possibilities exist.  

9/11 Explosions USGS

Caption Jay Jonas 9/11 Stairwell B Survivor

"sharp spike of short duration" is how seismologist Thorne Lay of Univ. of California at Santa Cruz told AFP an underground nuclear explosion appears on a seismograph."

Dan Plesse

Just now

They switched out an explosion sound with additional comments about that explosion i.e "is that the building? YES" with "was it a bomb?, No it plane hit it." https://www.bitchute.com/video/SGKT4lasunIc/ the exact opposite.

Someone switched out a video clip of WTC 9/11 explosion sound with a clip of the exact opposite. Did they do this for every explosion sound on 9/11?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/SGKT4lasunIc/

andola jackson

6 days ago (edited)

i mean i used to scavenge old VET/dark web threads...from some ANONS that were deep in black ops/retired and thus turned against the MIC. They stated it was mossad They were "temp" hire "maintenance" workers....ever seen elevator closed/caution tape/under service....they did this over the course of a month id say aug 2001 obviously...day in day out...planting nanothermite in stair wells/dry wall/installs....and elevator shaft/wall/installs. Makes me wonder their room for error on detonation...and how many they had to plant to be "sufficient". NO surprise that off site "dust" had traces as well.......not even remotely surprised....as noted in the thread. Just point to the aspect of "efficacy" and how much time the spent and how many damn charges they placed if you really think about it....that was the first time i ever heard of WTC7....and you do some research on the Actual aspects of what WTC7 was responsible for or what kind of business was being conducted there....it was as clear as day. The same anon also posted back when hillary was In obamas cabinet....that BENJI widely hated her...and had attempted to hit hillary on multiple occasions while in Israel. Apparently our secret service....told them about how her motorcade was going to do a tour/parade....of which was "hit"....that she was never on board....just to see if there was a mole....it was that easy to expose...as well as which base she was stationed/protected in....which also saw militant paratroop activity. Also fake intel we provided to see if it would leak......I mean she was in bed with the saudis after all...but still WTH. Trump was the clear choice for israel in that regard...i do the math on that and the marc rich fbi publication weeks prior to the election as being integral aspects to the 2016 election...which is somehow also not general knowledge to the general public. Let alone marc rich as it is. 9/11 has me look at moments like benghazi with a totally different scope/optics. So what ECHELON/CIA/FBI hears intel of an attack....blocking that informations passage to the higher ups...and creating a "FIASCO" is exactly how you push ppl like hillary out of your way if your the deep/state or military leadership that doesnt want to fight under her warhawk beak or at her/saudis behest(laughs bc trump wound up in bed with saudis and israel, which is just a W in my book)considering hes not even a seasoned politician, yet paints the MIC in plain sight. If your in that Field you let benghazi happen 15 times out of 10....thats the optics i have on that kinda BS which is damning. I wouldnt let it happen, but the whole bigger picture aspect...since the DEEP states just a good ol boys party...thats what i meant about the 15 times outta 10....

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Initiation of WTC building Collapse using FDNY and outgoing Calls from WTC

"sharp spike of short duration" is how seismologist Thorne Lay of Univ. of California at Santa Cruz told AFP an underground nuclear explosion appears on a seismograph."

WTC Core column removal can't be considered "localized" damage and it has to be done to take down the towers.

Jenga is a great example " Players take turns removing one block at a time from a tower " 
Initiation therefore starts when the players begin removing blocks, not when the last block was removed before collapse. 

Father John Delendick 9/11 Bombs

WTC Core  is a continuous line from A bottom to B top . Any collapse which happens inside this A, B or these two points is the initiation point.. The core then was 



continuously picked apart until the whole thing gave way. 

A portion on the building has caved can only refer to explosions reported by individuals reported by the New York Times and before the cover up started.

Overly becoming focused on the Initiation of collapse is another way to cover up what really happened, with early cave in reported by FDNY and explosions reported by husbands trapped because explosives removed stairwells at the 78th floor.

Bush said "He told us the operatives had been instructed to ensure that the explosives went off at a point that was high enough to prevent the people trapped above from escaping out the windows. 

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When people were reading about September 11th in the New York Times, what were they thinking when they read about the explosions?

What they are thinking is exactly what the cover artist are making them believe.  

NYT World Trade Center 9/11 explosions

NYT World Trade Center 9/11 explosions

9/11 explosions Body Part Mapping 

Someone switched out a video clip of WTC 9/11 explosion sound with a clip of the exact opposite. Did they do this for every explosion sound on 9/11?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/SGKT4lasunIc/

Contact Tracing the Attack on September 11th

Flight 11 "Route Changed"

What Is the 24 hour DEN (Defense Event Network)  terry

Why didn't the FAA ROC contact the military soon after "we have some planes" was reported to them at around 8:24?

"FAA protocols in existence on 9/11 required ATCs to notify their supervisor when a hijacking occurred, or was believed to have occurred. Supervisors were then required to notify the managers of their facility and the corresponding ROC. The ROC facility was then required to notify the WOC at FAA Headquarters"

"At 8:21, American 11 changed course, heading northwest," Lie #1
The truth is  American 11 [changed] was OFF course starting at 8:16.  The intended flight path for American 11 was never mentioned by [9/11 Commission, any blue pill review of 9/11] due to the massive cover-up from all who speak of 9/11. The only way a flight can be determined to be off course is by knowing the intended flight path of the flight and comparing that path with radar data. Terry Biggio's "I have never experienced such a serious deviation before" started at 8:16 according  to 
radar data and published intended flight path by USA Today. 

intended flight path with wiki and rutgers law review big lie

http://www.rutgerslawreview.com/wp-content/uploads/special/911/Sept11_Monograph.pdf

According to Miles Kara, 9/11 Commission staff, the conversations between Otis and NEADS were not recorded (or at least no copies of those recordings were made): [bullshit!!]

http://www.oredigger61.org/?p=955

NEADS was delayed because of the Exercise Vigilant Guardian which added both false inputs and launched decoys on 9/11 and required AUTHORIZATION in a crisis and sent fighters out into the Atlantic and not in the direction Flight 11.   It sound like everyone did something wrong. Pete Zalewski couldn't hear three "strange" messages which caused a delay and other people had to take over. 

It looks like FAA ROC was doing nothing, so Dan Bueno took it upon himself to get some fighters only to run into a larger blockage of  NEADS AUTHORIZATION. Terry Biggio contacted FAA's ROC right away and that should have been enough to send defenders up in the air and Flight 11 didn't even pass Albany yet.  

Terry was the Operation’s Manager-in-Charge on 9/11
New York Air National Guard Maj. Jeremy Powell 
Master Sgt. Stacia Rountree 

The crisis was reported right away to the FAA ROC at 8:24 by the people in charge at Boston. Terry was in charge. Terry was relaying everything in real time to FAA’s ROC. The ROC’s job was to contract NEADS. It was NEADS job to contact all Interceptor Groups under their command and poll them for readiness. NY Air National Guard fighters were being sent to Iraq. So they were ready and were being sent on missions across the globe and so were the NJ Red Devils and the NJ Vipers. NEADS didn't have to limit themselves to Otis, but they choose that option anyway. The best option was to send everyone and whoever could find flight 11 first wins point.  

Actually Audio tape shows NJ Fighter Interceptor Groups were being called to battle stations. I wonder who called them? Why bother with Otis who sent their fighters out into the Atlantic ? 

NEADS was evacuated on Sept. 12 thanks to a floatplane.. Suddenly they are aware. “We weren’t really focused on the inside” Yes you are you liars.

Erich Maraite

1h ago

This is a conversation between Boston Center (Terry Biggio; civilian air traffic control for New England) and the FAA’s Herndon Command Center (“Tom”), which must have taken place after 8:34 a.m. EDT on 9/11 - 12 minutes before AA11 crashed into the WTC. Biggio relates that they had tried to contact

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My Correction 
[Terry was in charge of Boston and he WAS not just a "civilian air traffic control for New England] Terry was the guy in command of Boston Center and he started reporting to ROC who does all the intercepts with the military.  ] The question is what happened inside the ROC? 
 

Dan Plesse

21m ago

You avoided the key conversation between two unknowns which is recorded as help was denied BECAUSE Otis requires NEADS authorization, which the whole question is based on. When did the denials begin and why are civilians expected to follow military rules?

“This proper call was initiated at 8:38” When you call 911 the call is always proper with few exceptions. The idea that FAA calls to NORAD weren’t proper and therefore should have BEEN ignored and shouldn’t be investigated is another crime on top of the original crime of treason by the military. Few people in the world are this evil but it is evil at the heart of this disaster and this question. What kind of evil would require anything during a crisis? What kind of evil stands by this idea that this behavior is okay? 

Then you avoided the reason why they didn’t have any luck. What happened? Do you know? Could it be that they were denied for the above reasons? 

“must have taken” is an estimate. The question is why don’t you know for sure?

FAA counterparts at Cape Cod is “CAPE2″.

“ not knowing that (in contrast to Otis) Atlantic City was no longer hosting fighters on alert.”

This totally BS and you know it. 177th Fighter Interceptor Group was fully operational The Red Devils 177th Fighter Interceptor Group was fully operational and so were the The Vipers, belonging to the 119th Fighter Squadron. The Vipers and The Red Devils were in the air on 9/11, bombing and firing their weapons that morning. You have no idea what you ARE talking about. The Red Devils were VERY busy that morning. The Red Devils would be very offended with your BS!!

Military DID deny help = Otis requires authorization. Who was requiring authorization at Otis and WHERE is the recording of this conversation?

“IF this were an inside job and the military knew what was happening, “they” could have launched the Otis fighters upon Biggio’s request - it would not have made a difference.”

You don’t know what time the refusals started or why the 119th Fighter Squadron or the 177th Fighter Interceptor Group weren’t redirected from their bombing runs to the Trade Center and who decided NJ or NY Fighter Interceptor Groups weren’t called first or why NORAD was called at all. I don’t think any NY/NJ Interceptor Groups were called at all on 9/11. NORAD/Otis should have contacted NEADS not the FAA or Otis should have contacted the NY/ NJ Fighter Interceptor Groups themselves and not leave it in the hands of the FAA.

During a crisis no questions should be asked beyond a few finalizing bits of information and the military should have jumped at chance to do something right for change. They should have contacted all fights on bombing runs and redirect them to the crisis. What happen was an inside job!

Erich Maraite

25m ago

There was no need to embarrass yourself publicly, Plesse.

“the key conversation …”

You merely claim the conversation is “key” - key to what, and how do you come to this judgement - based on what standards? In my judgement, the few lines you show there are of no relevance whatsoever.

“…between two unkno

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Dan Plesse

Just now

If you still CAN”T SEE IT let me know!

If you still CAN”T SEE IT let me know! I don’t think you saw Evidence #1 for some fuck up reason. Anyway !

Cape Cod ATC then had to contact their Otis ANG counterparts. Who are these people? In Summary Boston ATC contacted, Cape Cod ATC which is turn contact their Otis ANG which didn’t know to contract NEADS first? It sounds like bullshit to me. Your time elements are also 8:36 and 8:38 is also bullshit.

“Otis WAS scrambled” is bullshit when intercept fighter groups in NY/NJ were flying to Iraq or on bombing runs were VERY active and in the air.

You also refuse to say “177th Fighter Interceptor Group” and 119th Fighter Squadron in your reply. Why is that?

Lets review

at about 8:24 a.m., controllers heard two radio transmissions from it, with the voice of a hijacker declaring, “We have some planes” [see 2].

Pete Zalewski, who is handling Flight 11, says that after the second of these: “I immediately knew something was very wrong. And I knew it was a hijack.” He alerts his supervisor. Lino Martins.

Notice “something was very wrong” should be “a hijack”. What does Lino Martins at do at 8:24 a.m.?

1. (see (8:21 a.m.) September 11, 2001 Boston Controller suspects something seriously wrong).
2. ↑ (see 8:24 a.m. Boston Center)
3. ↑ (see 8:25 a.m. September 11, 2001 Boston Center Starts Notifying Chain of Command)
   
   Over an FAA teleconference, Terry Biggio, the operations manager at Boston Center, reports to the FAA’s New England regional office the “We have some planes” comment apparently made by a Flight 11 hijacker at 8:24 a.m

The Red Devils 177th Fighter Interceptor Group was fully operational and so were the The Vipers, belonging to the 119th Fighter Squadron.