Thursday, July 17, 2014

The initial 2005 NIST found LITTLE damage

Bob Byron 'I don't know what you talking about ..'

oh you most certainly do Daniel.......the initial 2005 NIST found LITTLE damage caused by EACH impact into EACH tower......the Structural Response section of NCSTR 1-3 shows 14.5% localized ASYMMETRICAL damage occurring to each...

33 outer columns were damaged from the impacts. You can count the columns yourself in any image or video that shows the holes. That's 33 out of 236 outer columns which comes out to 14%. That leaves 86% of the outer columns intact and undamaged.

NIST estimates that 6-8 core columns were damaged. That's 6-8 out of 47. We'll go with 7 since it's in the middle scenario and the SECOND impact all but missed them.... 7 out of 47 comes out to 15% of the core columns were damaged leaving 85% of the core columns intact and undamaged.

Putting those two percentages together, you get 14.5% of the structure in each tower was damaged leaving 85.5% of the structure undamaged. That is minimal damage.

the 2005 NIST also found the FIRES PRESENT did NOT allow the steel to FAIL to ALLOW collapse to proceed... 

"No conclusive evidence was found to indicate that pre-collapse fires were sever enough to have a significant effect on the microstructure that would have resulted in weakening of the steel structure." NIST NCSTAR 1-3C, p. 235

no evidence the type of joining methods, materials, or welding procedures used was improper NIST 1-3 p.99

recovered bolts were stronger than typical. NIST 1-2 p.133

"no core column examined showed temp. above 250C" NIST 1-3 6.6.2

NCSTAR1-3 7.7.2 "because no steel was recovered from WTC7,it is not possable to make any statements about it's quality" 

if YOU would like to show anything different....by all means..go for it.....cause I fucking hate, FAKE 'truthers'........

prove to me you are legit.......
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NIST's Penis Theory and hot pink fires didn't cause building 7 to fall

 Dr. William Pepper, attorney at law pursuing nist via oig fraudulent wtc 7 report
Todd Zinser, Office of Inspector General, Department of Commerce: Investigate why NIST  
      created a fraudulent report on WTC7

NIST's Penis Theory and hot pink fires didn't cause a building to fall or the dirt piles witnessed by people. Only a shill would believe such stupidly.

"NIST used numerous unscientific methods and fraudulent inputs to get the key girder that allegedly initiated the total collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 to fail in its computer simulation."

From: michael.newman@nist.gov

CC: wtc@nist.gov
Subject: RE: WTC7 Report Discrepancies
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:55:28 +0000

Dear Mr. Cole,

WTC 7 did not show any web crippling failures. Therefore, the web crippling plates did not need to be included in the models/analyses.

http://911blogger.com/news/2013-11-06/nist-replies-stiffeners-inquiry

At minimum it is a good thing to have the admission on record that the plates where omitted.

9/11 Smoking Guns 8:41 Leslie E. Robertson Why Is there a pile of dirt in the building 7?


The referendum would require the Buildings Department to investigate the collapse
http://nypost.com/2014/07/09/911-conspiracy-group-pushes-vote-for-investigation/

  • Ron Morales And if it passed, the Buildings Department would come to the exact same conclusion, and then truthers would reject it, claiming that it wasn't an "independent investigation" because the Building Department is part of the "gubmint." So in the end this w...See More
    July 13 at 10:58pm · Like · 2
  • Dan Plesse Well Buildings Department would never use growing steel because of a small fire theory caused a domino effect, its just too stupid.

    Not only that but no one has seen a single item from inside WTC 7. How did all that dirt get inside the building.     ...See More
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  • Ron Morales No one's advocating a "small fire theory." That's just the dishonest misrepresentation of truthers who can't logically address the actual explanation. And what is "growing steel"?
    July 14 at 7:18pm · Like · 2
  • Dan Plesse Ron Morales Did you just forget to address the issues of dirt piles witnessed by people and addressed Leslie E. Robertson?

    The building was filmed and only had a small row of HTA arson fires.     ...See More
    Play Video
    Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and Fire Commissioner Thomas Von Essen inside building 7

    WTC Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and Fire Commissioner Thomas Von Essen inside buildin... See More
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  • Dan Plesse 11 Sept 2001 Aircraft Crash at NRO Headquarters

    Engine Pre-positioned in NRO Compound     ...See More
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  • Dan Plesse Ron Morales And what is "growing steel"? Its part of the NIST penis theory of WTC 7. The Steel increased in size do to warmth or Hot pink fires!
    11 hrs · Like · 2
  • Ron Morales Ah. It's just a "theory" that steel expands with heat. An amateur like you must know more about steel than the professional metallurgists who study the stuff.
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  • Dan Plesse NIST's Penis Theory and hot pink fires didn't cause a building to fall or the dirt piles witnessed by people. Only a shill would believe such stupidly.

    "NIST used numerous unscientific methods and fraudulent inputs to get the key girder that allegedly initiated the total collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 to fail in its computer simulation."

    From: michael.newman@nist.gov

    CC: wtc@nist.gov
    Subject: RE: WTC7 Report Discrepancies
    Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:55:28 +0000

    Dear Mr. Cole,

    WTC 7 did not show any web crippling failures. Therefore, the web crippling plates did not need to be included in the models/analyses.

    http://911blogger.com/.../nist-replies-stiffeners-inquiry

    At minimum it is a good thing to have the admission on record that the plates where omitted.

    NIST Replies to WTC7 Stiffeners Inquiry | 911Blogger.com
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Tuesday, July 15, 2014

11 Sept 2001 New Details Fake Plane Parts and Smoke Machines

11 Sept 2001 New Details Fake Plane Parts and Smoke Machines
http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/911/NRO911Simulation.pdf


"John Fulton, a CIA officer assigned as chief of NRO's strategic gaming division, the announcement says, "On the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team ... were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building. Little did they know that the scenario would come true in a dramatic way that day."

  • Alan Phelps This document is over 3 years old. Old news.

    And how are they using parts for a small Lear jet to show that a trans co tinental American Airlines jet liner crashed there? Because I csn tell you the parts found there match the Boeing. Not a Lear jet that was part of an exercise that was ultimately cancelled at the NRO HQ.

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  • Dan Plesse New relative to it first being reported 2002. Its new information and details adding on 2002 which hides  Dulles Airport, the engine issue and smoke machines.

    Exerciae Scenario:

    "A Learjet airplane loses power immediately
    after take off from Dulles Airport and smashes
    into Towers"

    "make this a Lear jet" does not mean is a Lear jet.

    "parts found there match the Boeing" They match a casting by Boeing, not a serial number, which means any Boeing type.

    They had all the materials ready to go and deploy in the field.
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Alan Phelps Mr. Fulton and his team ... were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building.

" as soon as the real world events began, we canceled the exercise."
the exercise was going on for days before 9/11.

Jeffrey Harr normally runs when he sees the writing on the wall -. He normally just says "I don't know the document" whatever that means or maybe that was Ron Morales.

"strangely coincidental" fake plane parts and smoke machines.

In what the government described as a "bizarre coincidence", Notice the what the government says matches Jeffrey comments exactly.

9/11 Plane exercise with smoke machines and plane fake parts

"Tapestry Gold Xebec"
11 Sept 2001 Aircraft Crash at NRO Headquarters New Details
11 Sept 2001 Aircraft Crash at NRO Headquarters...See More

Engine Pre-positioned in NRO Compound

Looks like Norma Rae is right again! On September 11th 2001 at "NRO Headquarters"

1. They crashed a plane
2. and planted parts
3. made sure one engine was dropped off.

Jeffrey Harr Date released February 15th 2011. Not old

Your link does NOT include the details. However my PDF is the actual details which includes the i.e Norma Rae Plane engine 1 and 2 drop off issue.

The document was released in 2011 and I just posted the document. Is this another document you going run away from?

Alan Phelps please read the document I just posted and not babble on and babble with false information.

Its not old news.

Page 20
Air Plane crash and smoke generator i.e Pentagon smoke generator.
http://documents.theblackvault.com/.../NRO911Simulation.pdf
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Originally Reported on Sept 11th 2002
https://web.archive.org/web/20020911222515/http://boston.com/news/packages/sept11/anniversary/wire_stories/0903_plane_exercise.htm
  • Alan Phelps "This exercise had been going on for days"

    Yeah, the days prior were about shit like work place violence/shootings and the medical response to it. Sept. 11 was their small plane crash, which was cancelled.

    Either you are too stupid to read your own document or you are intentionally lying.
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  • Dan Plesse Alan Phelps They never detailed what was cancelled. The small crash and fake plane parts, plus smoke machines were most likely at other locations. Most likely World Trade center and the Pentagon.
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  • Jeffrey Harr Dan Plesse- You flatter yourself. In the world of actual evidence, not commenting on a document that hasn't been researched would be considered a good thing. I've never run from your posts, however, most are ridiculous and aren't worthy of a response. This particular one has some merit, in that it's based on an actual event. However, if you can't comprehend the difference between an exercise and real world, (and I know that you can't), you're subject to believe anything, which your sillier posts reflect.
    13 mins · Like
  • Jeffrey Harr Jeremy is perpetually stuck on stupid. It's like a barking seal.
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  • Jeffrey Harr My apologies to seals everywhere...
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  • Dan Plesse Jeffrey Harr I recorded all your running and I am going to record this running bit too" document that hasn't been researched" whatever that means
    Dan Plesse " not commenting on a document that hasn't been researched" i.e running away again and as per normal.

    the other document Jeffrey had an issue with

    • Alan Phelps Or they cancelled it. Because they said they cancelled it.

      The document says right in there that it was to simulate a small aircraft falling out of the sky less than five miles from Dulles. Which, shocker I know, the NRO head quarters is about 4 m      iles from Dulles.

      And then in the following article you posted they said it was cancelled.

      When will you stop lying? Or when will you learn reading comprehension?

      "It doesn't specify which was cancelled"

      Considering their simulation of a small aircraft falling from the sky about 4 or 5 minutes after takeoff and crashing into their building, and, as it says in the document, was scheduled for Sept 11-14, and is the last exercise listed on the document, AND them saying it was cancelled in an article ypu posted, it isnt very hard to see that the plane crash exercise was what was cancelled.
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    • Dan Plesse Alan Phelps

      "1 Engine Pre-positioned in NRO Compound (Station 15 Asset)
      -In position no latter than 0915 Hrs

      Pentagon attack happened at 9:30 hrs
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      Aircraft Crash Smoke Generator
      -
      Need to Notify DNRO of intention to evacuate building from
      0930-1030 on 11 Sept 2001


      • Dan Plesse Alan Phelps Does it matter if it was cancelled ? They still had the plane parts and smoke machine ready on 9/11 to go right? Parts and machines were purchased and ready for something.

        They just moved the cancelled program over a few miles.

  • Alan Phelps Im not off topic. Ive been asking you for a specific page number for these supposed plane parts since you abandoned your own thread about the document when I starting asking about it.
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  • Alan Phelps The mentioning of engines is under "Fire Department Response" by the way.
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  • Alan Phelps I refuse to think that Dan is actually this stupid. He is willingly and knowingly lying to people. "Fairfax Fire Department Response" and "Fairfax Fire Department Details" is, as far as I can see, the only mentionings of "engines" which when you arent a complete moron and read the sections, will know it is not aircraft engines, but about fire engines from Fairfax Fire Department.
    10 mins · Like
  • Dan Plesse Searching the correct document yields results
    8 mins · Like


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