Tuesday, April 15, 2014

The Missing 9/11 Black Boxes and NTSB Missing Report

*The FBI claimed that they could not locate any records documenting use of serial numbers on aircraft parts to identify the wreckage of the 9/11 aircraft.

*The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) claimed they had no records regarding whether 9/11 aircraft wreckage was positively identified.

*The US Armed Forced Institute of Pathology claimed that records on evidence of the identities of the alleged hijackers and their presence on the 9/11 aircraft was exempt from FOIA disclosure on the grounds that their release would invade privacy of the relatives of the deceased.



Airframe.com: "NO NTSB official report for 9/11"
airframes.org seems to think its strange that the NTSB did not have some kind of official report.

Tuesday 9:01pm

Did you know about this? airframes.org "Strangely, no official NTSB accident report exists for any the four planes on 9/11" Has that happened before? (click on photo)
Wednesday 12:41am

Wednesday 12:41am
I don't think so - the reason for no NTSB report is that the FBI took the investigation of the planes from the NTSB
Wednesday 12:51pm

16 minutes ago

It was the first time in its history that the NTSB did not investigate the crash of an airplane--four times on 9/11! I believe the explanation is that no planes actually crashed on 9/11. See, for example, The Complete Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference, especially Part 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAEvw2CjAYQ

I found this photo
I can't make it out. What is it?
click on the photo
It's rubbish. See "Planes/No Planes and 'Video Fakery'" on Veterans Today.
well its not flight 11
Yes, it looks like rubbish.

Dear James Fetzer, James Easton, Tracy Blevins and Norma Rae

I believe proving a negative (no planes at all) is too difficult and too many people just can't believe it and so they default believing the stupid 9/11 debunkers (i.e self defeating) , so next best thing on the list is to show that the evidence that debunkers love (i.e 911myths.com via "flight 11 fuselage " photo above and below) which I have done to Hardcore 9/11 debunkers (i.e Jeffrey Har) "That debunking your blue and white car door today was fun. Goodnight" :)  ) actually reverse course when shown in a different light, which shows 100% possible to get the hardcore 9/11 deniers to switch sides at least on a case by case basis. Success for "no- planers" is zero and self defeating.  This is yet another case another premier evidence gets cover up because of "No planes theorists" prefer not showing the clearest cases of criminal activity and also turning people off to 9/11 Truth.

This is yet another case another premier evidence gets cover up because of "No planes theorists" prefer not showing anything and better yet turning people to 9/11 Truth. 

Not Flight 11
http://s1222.photobucket.com/user/danp5648/media/flight11parts.jpg.html

Dan Plesse I just conducted an google image search with the photo above http://goo.gl/CmFvQA  and it turns out the "Flight 11 Fuselage" photo was 
shown at a museum and it is listed as premier evidence by 9/11 debunkers at:.

1. 911myths.com
2. aircraftpartsnyc911 on sites.google.com
3. blocked site debris dot 0catch dot com.
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Normally these web sites are total sellouts. Not this time!

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  • Bob Weber Who the hell are they, and has it occurred to them that no "accident report" was filed, because there was no accident. Try looking up PSA Flight 1771 to see if there was an "accident report" for that.
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  • Dan Plesse Here is the report you stupid moron

    NTSB Identification: DCA88MA008.
    The docket is stored on NTSB microfiche number 34799.
    Scheduled 14 CFR PACIFIC SOUTHWEST AIRLINES
    Accident occurred Monday, December 07, 1987 in SAN LUIS OBISPO, CA
    Probable Cause Approval Date: 01/04/1989
    Aircraft: BRITISH AEROSPACE BAE-146-200, registration: N350PS
    Injuries: 43 Fatal.
    http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx...
    DCA88MA008
    www.ntsb.gov
    A RECENTLY DISCHARGED USAIR EMPLOYEE BOARDED PSA FLT 1771 AFTER HAVING LEFT A GOODBYE MESSAGE WITH FRIENDS. HE BYPASSED SECURITY AND CARRIED ABD A BORROWED 44 CALIBER PISTOL. A NOTE WRITTEN BY THIS PSGR, FOUND IN THE WRECKAGE, THREATENED HIS FORMER SUPERVISOR AT USAIR, WHO WAS ABOARD THE FLT. AT 161…


    • Dan Plesse No NTSB report for 9/11 . Dean Hartwell said "the reason for no NTSB report is that the FBI took the investigation of the planes from the NTSB" Is this true? Why did this happen?
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      • Jeffrey Harr Dan Plesse- This has always been the NTSB's policy:

        Investigations Involving Criminal Activity

        "In cases of suspected criminal activity, other agencies may participate in the investigation. The Safety Board does not investigate criminal activity; in the past, once it has been established that a transportation tragedy is, in fact, a criminal act, the FBI becomes the lead federal investigative body, with the NTSB providing any requested support."

        Airframe's claim that this is "strange" is unfounded and directly disputed by the NTSB, itself.

    • Dan Plesse Jeffrey Harr Airframe's claim was not directly disputed by the NTSB. I am not sure you understand what that means. Its means that Airframe was named by the NTSB, which did not happen.

      "In cases of suspected criminal activity, other agencies may parti      cipate in the investigation. " No kidding

      "FBI becomes the lead federal investigative body" but does that end all reporting by the NTSB?

      Becoming lead investigative body as far as other events i.e Flight 1771 is one clear example, which did not end the reporting for the NTSB.

      Flight 1771 was a crime and still the NTSB wrote down something.

      NTSB Identification: DCA88MA008.
      The docket is stored on NTSB microfiche number 34799.
      Scheduled 14 CFR PACIFIC SOUTHWEST AIRLINES
      Accident occurred Monday, December 07, 1987 in SAN LUIS OBISPO, CA
      Probable Cause Approval Date: 01/04/1989
      Aircraft: BRITISH AEROSPACE BAE-146-200, registration: N350PS
      Injuries: 43 Fatal.

      Thanks to a shill, flight 1771 would not have been known.

      Airframe might be far more experience at reporting then you are aware.
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      • Jeffrey Harr Dan Plesse- I can't answer what protocol the NTSB followed. It is a fact that they released Flight Path Studies on all four flights; they released ATC Recording reports for all four flights; they released FDR reports for 77 and 93, (only surviving FDRs) and they released a Recorded Radar Data Study for all four flights. It's not as if the NTSB was silent, concerning the 9/11 flights.
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  • Dan Plesse Jeffrey Harr
    Also Mike Bellone has NOT been discredited. The crime he commented has to do with stupid old props he using to entertain children with i.e used air mask, used air tank and general used crap with zero value.

    His crime had nothing to do with false story telling or lying.

    Bellone as a "firefighter" seem to be the biggest crime in the world for you and they all did repeat that foolish mistake but that is not material enough to throw the baby out with bathwater.

    What about driving infractions, do they count as discrediting everything a person said during his life time. Where do you draw the line on this?


    • Dan Plesse What does this mean? "I'm not avoiding shit. I told you- I don't know about the document." So when will you "know about the document". Can I get a date time stamp? If showing you documents causes acute documentitis, what is the cure for cognitive dissonance?

      I don't care if you "know or not know about the document" Jeffrey Harr I don't even know what that means. Are you looking at the shape and color of the document and and forgetting the black little letters that spell out that you theory (government propaganda) is wrong. At every turn you seem to run from the truth. Bending everything to the shape fit your world view. Do care however that you READ and COMPREHEND What the document says and how that document and is the tipping point NOT only the two witnesses and the reporter who developed even more criminal evidence against the FBI.

      Below is another document you don't know about about. So when will you "know about the documents" which point away from the government propaganda you seem to enjoy going to bed with?

      Lists 35 mm film of 9/11 events.
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      • Jeffrey Harr Dan Plesse- Not sure what the fuck's spinning around in your head, but understand this:

        I look at these topics in my own time, in the order that I choose. I don't make my schedule based on your obsession of the month. In spite of our past altercations, I've recently been pretty civil to you.

        You said "...you seem to run from the truth". You know better. I've shoved car doors, footbridges and shitty pixelated photos down your throat- nonsense that you SWORE was something sinister, but proved to be nothing but the mania of seeing conspiracy in every completely benign 9/11 component. This "black box" crap reeks of the same silliness. I may look into it- if I choose to. I don't know about you, but I also have a family; a home and yard that are needing spring attention; work and a couple other hobbies besides this crap, so I look at things here that I find interesting. Your unverifiable "black box" story is pretty low on the totem pole.

        If you want to be a dickhead, go do it with someone else. After fucking with you truthers for a few years now, my tolerance level for bullshit is wearing pretty thin.
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      • Dan Plesse Its one sentence Jeffrey Harr, outlined in a RED BOX and you can't seem to want to look and read it? What the fuck is wrong with you?

        You said "...you seem to run from the truth". You know better." Yes I do and this is another example of a long list of examples of cognitive dissonance and you refusing to function when the chips fall the other way. You have done this more times then I can count AND I showed you this document months ago...

        ..and you are still not looking at the document. You could have saved more time just reading the document, just one sentence and writing this longingly worded rant of why you can't read a single sentence which is total bullshit and you know it.

        " I don't make my schedule based on your obsession of the month. "
        That's why I asked for date time stamp for when you can read single sentence.
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      • Jeffrey Harr I'm trying to be civil.
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      • Jimmy Quaresmini Yep, I know. for the rec., I know it's annoying.
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      • Dan Plesse The the funny part is you can't comment on the document now because:
        1. it would mean you did read the document
        2 . delay meant you haven't figured out a really good lie to tell. Why?
        3. because all your responses so far have been word-for-word copies of other people responses to 9/11 Truth. case in point the Mike Bellone story of being attacked for using used worthless equipment. That turned out to be false charge.

        And why play a loosing game? If the end of game is already known, I would just man up and say you lost. Just leaving the game early is loser's way out or at least it should feel that way if you had any honor or manhood at all.
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    Monday, April 14, 2014

    The Park Foreman video freeze frames


    • Dan Plesse "definitely shows differences between smoke and sunlight coverage"

      NO the object should never been effected by the smoke after only 18-20 minute later (8:46:30) with sun at 9:02 am.

      This is wishful thinking at best and loon talk at worst.
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    Saturday, April 12, 2014

    Judy Wood, Sergei Dudarev, Dean Warwick and Dimitri Khalezov

    http://www.911-truth.net/11th_of_September-the_Third_Truth_NEXUS_magazine_English.pdf




    The New York Times Oral Histories say that

    page 1684
    It was like a slow shake. The whole ground just vibrated and shook.

    page 1691 (same person)
    All of a sudden it happened again, the
    same exact sound, the same thing.
    Q. The noise and the vibrations?
    A. The noise and the vibrations.
    At that point everything -- it just
    came down.

    Sounds like Dean Warwick was right!

    Did Judy Wood talk about these vibrations ? Nope that's the end of that theory.
    • Tracy Blevins Good comparison. I'd like to point out that NONE of the other buildings were on fire at the time of the demolition.
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    " I'd like to point out that NONE of the other buildings were on fire at the time of the demolition". (5:20) ?? Which demolition (1,2,6 or 7)  and a church also fell over ?

    I think when you create your own language you can control and prove anything inside that world. I think that was the point of Judy Wood. Control the language and don't muddy the the narrative with all the evidence that points to other theories and when witness don't pan out place them on ignore list.

    That Judy wood chart was the perfect example of cherry picking the terms and coming up the result which exactly what government did to come up with their result(s).

    and everyone is more or less guilty of this sin. Its called bias conformation.  

    Confirmation bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias‎
    Wikipedia
    Confirmation bias (also called confirmatory bias or myside bias) is the tendency of people to favor information that confirms their beliefs or hypotheses

    I have seen the enemy and the enemy is Confirmation bias, ego and lack of risk taking and fear.

    Judy Wood, Sergei Dudarev, Dean Warwick and Dimitri Khalezov: Do they agree?

    Judy Wood described the technology as a "magnetic electro-gravitic nuclear reaction" that interferes with energy fields, and suggested it might have also been used in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.
    https://archive.org/details/9-11__Energy_Weapons

    PART 2  Scientist Sergei Dudarev


    9/11 Scientist Sergei Dudarev, : "Unusual Magnetic Forces"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T96HAX3LIKQ

    Dr Sergei Dudarev describes how magnetism affects the strength of metals

    Sergei Dudarev, of the UK Atomic Energy Agency
     http://download.guardian.co.uk/audio/kip/standalone/science/1221560232136/3502/gdn.sci.080916.ad.Sergei_Dudarev.mp3

    "laughable: Magnetic forces to blame for 9/11 tower collapse" infowars

    Where is Sergei Dudarev report now and was he ever interviewed.. Did write a book? Does it match with Dean Warwick or Judy Wood?

    Why was Sergei Dudarev attacked by infowars? 

    If we had less drones we would have more answers.

    Dan, I'm selfish. The entire endeavor was for me. I simply shared what I found. Getting noticed was never and still isn't important. I know what happened. That's what's important.

    Sunday 3:26pm
    Who's Dean Warwick?
    the noise, the vibration, the clouds, the remains, the size of the remaining beams, or length, the elements in the dust most specifically, all spell out what happened and what happened, based on a wealth of evidence, good, solid, reliable evidence, and evidence that would be allowed in a court, proves much more than we're being told happened on 911. Much, much more. Now, based on financial data, banking information, court cases and a wealth of additional data, all good data also, the case can be made for a myriad of financial players to have been intimately involved—from the fed and the Bank of New York to almost every other major banking institution. I'm not sure what more is needed. In fact, if one follows many of the "Israel Did It" leads, an incorrect final hypothesis in my opinion since NATO, Canada and intimate US players were also involved, still, those leads generally implicate close American players, security company's, etc. So there's no shortage of very good evidence and very good speculation for that evidence for a court case. I believe almost every aspect of the event has been established.
    so Wood appeals to those who haven't closely studied the event, for weeks, or months and even years, which is everyone.
    Monday 3:59am

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