Tuesday, December 2, 2014

September 11th World Trade Center 5 Roof Second Plane Debris




Pretty darn close 



Never seen again Plane Debris !

Down and dirty pictures

"You better get acquainted with the Truth"
Photo to the left is  Gary Steficek image [DSC00478]



"Due to the arrangement of that wreckage it’s clear the FEMA WTC site investigators felt that smaller piece of wreckage belonged where it was placed, to the left of the larger segment of fuselage with full window cut-outs still relatively intact. For that reason the smaller piece of fuselage on the left is what remains of the upper portion of the last passenger window frame and surrounding outer fuselage skin on the right hand side of whatever aircraft slammed into WTC2. If that is the case then this wreckage cannot possibly be from any known Boeing 767, according to the Boeing structural repair technician that is."




Jeffrey Harr The photo on the right is taken directly from the FEMA 'WORLD TRADE CENTER BUILDING PERFORMANCE STUDY'. The photographer was William F. Baker, who worked for FEMA. The exposure from the report is very blue and red. Both colors stand out much more than they would have in reality, (for instance, we know that the cladding from the tower is silver, yet it appears very blue in this printing of Baker's photo).
Daniel M. Plesse I am looking at something else in the photo Jeffrey Harr not the overall blue hue silly.







  • Jeffrey Harr The tail number?
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  • Daniel M. Plesse (circled in YELLOW ) Jeffrey Harr I am NOT talking about the tail number which the font is too small or the blue hue of the FEMA fraud photo which is trying to make the part look darker and more blue. It seems like you have a major block on this issue. I said look at yellow circle and see if that discoloration shows up in any of the other photos. The yellow line reaches across photographs therefore its asking for a comparison.

Plane parts on display have always been colorless and always had alternating labels between Flight 11 and Flight 175 because the parts don't match A or B.
http://911truthout.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-other-side-of-national-september-11.html Photo have always been doctored to show more color and blue has been inserted into every photo. The white plane parts will never be shown. 

Part I George Nelson Colonel, USAF (ret.) None of the serially controlled parts of any of four planes or even the landing gear or just one engine has been released to identity of the planes on September 11th.  Once again, the government has yet to produce one serially controlled part from the crash site that would have dispelled any questions as to the identity of the specific airplane.

100% Not Flight 175 or Flight 11

More Parts
Not Flight 175
  • Daniel M. Plesse Jeffrey Harr
    The whole piece was NOT moved. 1-5% of the front part was touched, changed, newly cracked etc. Who is William F. Baker?

    Why did only one photo get released by NIST and the video is shitty as all hell? Can you ask FEMA?

    where are all the none blurry photos? What happen to your standards and using Gene Corley private collection is a low point for anyone.

    Chris Newson didn't address anything Jeffrey Harr. He basically just babbled the official lie.
FAA airmen'sregistry, Ogonowski didn't have a valid pilot's license on sept 11, 2001

AA Flew from Gate 32 


local terror drill  meetings across the nation

"FEMA's 2M jpeg provides more detail, including an imbedded EXIF that attributes the photo to Gene Corley, not William F. Baker!" +CNN911Fakes Do you have screen shot of this fact thanks?

N 334AA Flight 11 Serial 22332 Issued 1/6/2000 Registration: Cancelled 1/14/2002 
N 644AA Flight 77 Serial 24602 Issued 5/8/1991 Registration: Cancelled 1/14/2002 
N 591UA Flight 93 Serial 28142 Issued 7/1/1996 Registration: Valid 
N 612UA Flight 175 Serial 21873 Issued 1/18/1984 Registration: Valid
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22606


FLIGHT 11

John Alexander Ogonowski, pilot, apparently STILL ALIVE.
Thomas Francis McGuinness Jr, copilot, apparently STILL ALIVE.
N 334AA Serial 22332 
Registration: Cancelled/ plane destroyed on 1/14/2002 

FLIGHT 77 
Charles Frank Burlingame, pilot, DECEASED as of September 11, 2001.
David Michael Charlebois, copilot, apparently STILL ALIVE. 
N 644AA Serial 24602 
Registration: Cancelled/ plane destroyed on 1/14/2002 

FLIGHT 93
Jason Matthew Dahl, pilot, apparently STILL ALIVE.
Leroy Wilton Homer Jr, copilot, apparently STILL ALIVE.
N 591UA Serial 28142 
Registration: Valid/ PLANE STILL ABLE TO FLY. 

FLIGHT 175
Victor Saracini, pilot, DECEASED as of September 11, 2001
Michael Horrocks, copilot, DECEASED as of September 11, 2001
N 612UA Serial 21873 
Registration: Valid/ PLANE STILL ABLE TO FLY.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x12490

Part II Mr. Blue logo Plane Mark D. Birnback




Could a mid air break up make people look into a photograph and see strange unlike anything else features i.e the very strange wings and nose cone? Answer: Nope try again! You are not awake and not even close. My current argument is this: " In order to get close the same profile of the 9/11 Plane seen inside Roll #3 1.jpg you need to remove the nose of Stealth F-117 first i.e image #3 to get even close to image #1. So its not bottle nosed Plane therefore NOT A Boeing."

South Tower--Presentation--NYPD photograph nose cropped off theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXJy4N5e0oY

Nypd Helicopter Picture Of "flight 175", has anyone been able to identify the type of plane this is?
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22150


I did some more digging on N614UA to and found that Boeing acquired it from Transatlantic Aviation ltd in 2011 and the reason was for it to be used in development in the new KC-46A tankers.http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22606
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 9/11 Blue Logo Drone Witnesses

911datasets.org Crime Scene Photo: Timing Issue

9/11 Drone circling around World Trade Center every 5:65 

On 9/11 FOX News' Dick Oliver Says Drone Aircraft May Have Hit WTC


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  • Jeffrey Harr If you had a clear, detailed photo that showed a "bottle-nose", I'd understand your interest, but your blow-up is so distorted and pixelated, they're not reliable. The photo of the Boeing that I compared matches the body, wings engines and the vertical and horizontal stabilizers perfectly. I'd be willing to bet that sunlight shining off the nose is causing it to blend with the background, which would make it disappear in a blow-up or color temperature change.
  • Jeffrey Harr How do you reconcile all the other plane photos and video that shows a plane with a nose that looks like a Boeing? How do they fit in with your argument?
  • Question #1
    Do the other plane photos exist a numbered sequence ordered in roll of other photos with names consistent with each other and do these other photos exist in a near original copy complete with people reviewing the meta data and were your photos Analyzed by Digital Image Forensic Analyzers ?

    Question #2
    Are these other photos inside 911datasets.org? Where they ever released by NIST?  If they were never released - then what do you make of that? 

    thanks



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    • Jeffrey Harr Daniel- I'm not saying that the photo is fake. I'm saying that by the time it has been blown up, it's distorted and no longer representative of what was originally photographed.

      What Digital Image Forensic Analyzers application was used? Who used it? Who verified it? Is there some sort of summary?


      I can't answer #2. I can't know if something wasn't released, because if it wasn't released, I've not seen it.
    • Jeffrey Harr Daniel M. Plesse- Do me a favor- send me a link to the photos again. You gave it to me once, but I don't have it. I saw it on your blog, I think. Was it originally shot on film or digital? Is there a completely un-compressed version somewhere?
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      Robert Fisch Big Gray Plane Missing Blue bottom

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Everyone at NTSB got a copy of this report

do you have screen shot ?

post was asking if semtex, post said maybe wires coming out of blob


Massive Fires WTC 7 Debunked NIST Whistleblower

WTC 7 was a smoker and many people were inside the building either trapped, investigating, or reporting comfortably at all hours. All these events were filmed recorded and replayed in the public domain but scattered across the internet like a broken puzzle. Now those shattered pieces will be pieced back together. 

Vince DeMentri runs into the building at after 4:05 p.m however the video is cut short. Why would someone pick this time to cut the video?

NIST Whistleblower

 In essence, we lost our scientific independence, and became little more than "hired guns".

When I first heard of [9/11 truth] and how the NIST "scientists" involved in 911 seemed to act in very un-scientific ways, it was not at all surprising to me. By 2001, everyone in NIST leadership had been trained to pay close heed to political pressures. There was no chance that NIST people "investigating" the 911 situation could have been acting in the true spirit of scientific independence, nor could they have operated at all without careful consideration of political impact. Everything that came from the hired guns was by then routinely filtered through the front office, and assessed for political implications before release.

Massive Fires Debunked Richard Rotanz Investigates Building 7 on 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcL9ujvz3BU

Massive Fires Debunked WTC Building 7 9 11 Debunked Vince DeMentri  Runs into the building because its safe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAYU_JFYH1M

Massive Fires Debunked 9/11 Barry Jennings, Micheal Hess MISSING STEEL Witness Chief Frank Fellini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3cK-VslfXM

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