Thursday, June 16, 2016

9.11 Review of Plane Witnesses and Rumbling Sounds

9/11 Maps Large Video, Radar from 911datasets.org 

Inside 9/11 Oral Histories I didn't find 767's or 737's. Maybe they removed some pages that contained witnesses. They say the total pages are 12,000 pages, but I have only 7060 pages.. or 4,900 pages might be missing.. I found one match that sounds like Bri's silhouette plane  but not much else.. No 767, 737 was found at all.. If you find something leave a comment below,,

 Brian
SAID THOUGHT THAT THAT SECOND PLANE THAT WENT INTO THE SOUTH TOWER WAS MILITARY PLANE LIKE TRANSPORT OR SMALL CARGO MILITARY THE REASON THOUGHT THAT FOUND OUT LATER THE SUN NEVER SHINED OFF IT

Bob and Bri silhouette plane 

Q. Does Bri believe she saw a military plane?

A. Bri's comment regarding the "military" plane was due to her seeing a silhouette of the plane and therefore assuming black coloration. Her initial thought was that the plane was approaching the south tower to help fight the fire. There is nothing in our recollection to suggest that events of the day occurred in any way other than seen on the video.

 
http://wtcbpc.blogspot.com/2006/09/frequently-asked-questions.html


Joined Oral Histories PDF Sources 7050

9/11 Oral History Project - All testimonies in one searchable PDF

7050 Pages by Graeme MacQueen
7050

7060 Pages by me
9/11 World Trade Center Joined Oral Histories Research Booklet
https://kat.cr/911-joined-oral-histories-research-booklet-pdf-t12408634.html


Task Search for

1. 767 (Zero Hits),
2. 737 (Zero Hits),
3. "the plane" (found),
4. "rumbling" (found) 


Not Searched: Pops and Flashes or Controlled Demolition Evidence 

Survey of Controlled Demolition Evidence Inside Joined PDF file 9/11
http://911truthout.blogspot.com/2015/12/911-oral-histories-search-results-for.html


F. TORRE

"because it came over my radio , people yelling to get out , they were bombing New York

 The walls shook and then we felt it when a rumbling and some people were yelling earthquake .
Brian O'FLAHERTY

SAID THOUGHT THAT THAT SECOND
PLANE THAT WENT INTO THE SOUTH TOWER WAS
MILITARY PLANE LIKE TRANSPORT OR SMALL CARGO
MILITARY
THE REASON THOUGHT THAT FOUND OUT
LATER THE SUN NEVER SHINED OFF IT IT WAS
DARK COLOR PLANE

S. GREGORY
They actually described the plane as it came
in. They said it was a military-type plane and it was
green and it was this. I mean, I never saw the color
of the plane

A. BARTOLOMEY

One person actually
said that it was like a military style plane that
actually shot missiles into the building.

ALAN COOKE
EMT "THEN WHILE WAS STANDING IN THE PARKING LOT

THAVS WHEN SAW THE PLANE CRASH INTO THE SECOND
TOWER" 

"ONE OF THE FIRE BALLS OR WHATEVER
HAD TO HAVE MADE IT AS FAR AS THE SOUTH STREET SEAPORT
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT TIME IT SEEMED LIKE AN
EXPLOSION WAS COMING FROM THERE THOUGHT AN
EXPLOSION WAS COMING FROM THERE " 


THOUGHT WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT THERE WAS AN
EXPLOSION AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER THEN THOUGHT
THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE AT THE SEAPORT" 

Firefighter Jackson and Firefighter Zechewytz.
They were outside looking at the sky.
Firefighter Jackson said, "Wow, look at this
airplane. It's flying so low."

E. RODRIGUEZ

 I heard, it sounded like I thought another plane had struck the building. This
loud bang and then it sounded like a locomotive, or like when I used to live in Howard
Beach, when the planes used to come in at night, flying right over the house. Everything

started shaking and I heard like a thunderstorm. Somebody screamed it’s coming down.


N. SWEETING


I remember saying to the other
coordinator, Steven Pilla, that we saw the plane
go by, and my first thought again was oh, my God,
this pilot must have been blinded by the smoke or
distracted and then he crashed right into the
building.

Shortly thereafter Scott said, "What's
wrong with the flight patterns around here?" I
said, "What are you talking about?" And the
south tower blew up. Scott said, "That was a
plane." I said, "Scott, it was not a plane. It
was probably another bomb." He said, "No, I saw
it. It was a plane."

"Are you sure you saw a
plane?" He was like getting angry. He wanted to
make sure that it was a plane that Scott saw.

Scott . HOLOWACH

At that time Chief Ganci was behind me and he
thought there was another explosion in the north tower
and that's when I turned around and said Chief, listen,
there is a second plane that hit the other tower. He 
was like no no no no, we have another explosion. I
said no, Chief, I witnessed it. I watched the plane
hit the other tower. He is like are you sure. I said
Chief, I'm 100 hundred percent positive I watched the
second plane hit the other tower.

A. MONCHERRY

FBI Agents were telling us to move our vehicle from the corner of Vessey and West,
cause there was debris from the airplane which they needed for evidence. I guess it was
NTSB, they wanted the area secured.

J. PFEIFER

Lispenard and Church for a
gas leak in the street. We were there for a while
checking on the gas leak, and then we heard the loud
roar of the plane come over, and we turned around and
we looked and we saw the plane coming down, heading
south towards the Trade Center, and made a direct hit
on the Trade Center

At one point the Fire Safety Director, Mike
Hurley, asked us if we wanted the building evacuated.
Hayden and said do you want to evacuate the buildings?
He said yes. I turned to Mike and I told him evacuate
the buildings. But
right before the south building collapsed, we heard a
loud rumbling noise, But standing out there, at one point, we just
heard a loud, thunderous, rumble sound, and that's when
people really were saying run, run. I must have had my
back to the building or was talking to one of the
Chiefs because I never saw it. I just heard the sound
and ran about 50 yards west up Vesey Street towards the
river and got about half a block at most and dove
behind a car or between cars in the street. and I hear pop,
pop, pop, which sounded like gunfire to me. Then right
after that I hear people screaming get down, get down.
It's not normal. I worked in the ghetto long enough
that you get down I looked down the block and I
saw some law enforcement taking a guy away in handcuffs
and he was very agitated.

T. GABY
A. I saw it coming in, I heard it, and bang, it
hit. I proceeded to try to call my wife to tell her to
stay home on the cell phone. It didn't work. I went
into I believe the American Express Building

I walked into the rest room, went to the
bathroom and was just about ready to come out and I
heard a rumbling sound.

I b e l i e v e t h e Chief s a i d where d i d he
g e t t h a t from? He s a i d from OEM. We were t r y i n g
t o d e t e r m i n e e x a c t l y how he g o t it. I n
r e t r o s p e c t , how d i d he g e t i t ? He was walking
towards u s . Was he coming towards us anyway and
he g o t it o v e r h i s r a d i o ? I t h i n k he t o l d me he
g o t it from P e r u g g i a .

D. NIGRO
At some point after our arrival and after we
had moved to the west side of West Street, I heard a
loud roar of a jet, looked up and saw the second plane
impact the south tower.

D. TIMOTHY
I guess like -- to me it sounded like the
8:45 from Jamaica station going to Atlantic -- to
Flatbush Avenue, the Long Island Railroad, just
some big train just right over your head, like a
whole bunch of locomotives just running right
over your head.
I looked up, and the building just
tilted and started coming down.

R. ZARRILLO
Vesey Street
stepping over airplane pieces, several bodies and
whatnot.
Q. Can you describe how much debris was around?
A. There was what looked like the front wheel
assembly of an airplane. Unknown the size of the plane
that had hit, it just looked like it was one pair of
wheels on an assembly, pieces of metal with rivets in
them,

The second plane came in. It was the
biggest noise I ever heard in my life.
Q. Did you see the plane?
A. Yeah. We saw it, we heard it, we felt
the heat from it, the debris.

M. DONOVAN 5
We were actually still on Church Street. We
heard the plane briefly, the earth shook, the
buildings shook, a tremendous fireball overhead.
I thought there was a bomb or an explosion. A
tremendous fireball, flaming debris, pieces of
the airplane, fuselage, landing gear, pieces of
the building
M. RUPPERT

We were watching the tower burn when
the second one hit. We actually saw the second
one hit and the plane burst into flames. Not
even a minute later we were sent in to the box.
So we went through the tunnel.

Ladder Company 9 Battalion Chief Malkin

A little while later, I guess it
was about a quarter to 9, somebody came in and
said they saw the plane coming over quarters and
then they said they saw it hit the Trade Center. (the first plane)

T. HOPPEY

West Street, probably three
minutes or so after he had told us to go in,
that's when we heard the rumble. I looked up,
and it was just a black cloud directly overhead.
At that point I was thinking it was a
secondary explosion. It looked to me like it was
much lower than where the planes had gone in.

J. DELENDICK 
We heard a rumbling noise, and it
appeared that that first tower, the south tower,
had exploded, the top of it.

E. CACHIA

It actually gave at a
lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit,
because we originally had thought there was like
an internal detonation explosives because it went
in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then
the tower came down
J. SULLIVAN
A. Out of the corner of my eye, I saw a plane
coming, and I actually said to Mike Hazel, I said,
"What is this guy going to do? Is he going to try to
fly under the smoke?

why isn't he flying around the
building on the windward side instead of, you know --
it looked like he was trying to duck under the smoke,
but then he banked and hit the building, and that was
that.

MALLERY

WHATS GOING ON BRIEFING THEM
SAID IT SOUNDS JUST LIKE THIS THIS IS
EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE HERES ANOTHER ONE
THINKING IT WAS THIRD PLANE MEANWHILE THE SOUND TO
ME WAS FOUR DISTINCT EVENTS THEY ALL SOUNDED THE
SAME THE TWO PLANE CRASHES AND THE TWO COLLAPSES
EXCEPT THE COLLAPSES LASTED LONGER

W. MERA
So we walked up, grabbed extra cylinders, all our gear. We
were walking up Vesey and we saw parts of the plane on
the ground still burning.

Note:
(the 
Humphrey flash was the other side north side of south tower 
I was hoping that it was in front of the impacting plane)
Humphrey
the plane came from the south, so
I saw very little of the plane. I only saw a flash
going on the side of the building where the opening is,
and then the explosion. 

Ippolito
At first we thought it was the plane hitting,
but we at this point -- we knew the plane was already
in the building, and we heard rumbling.
The building started to shake. We all ran
into the stairway, into the B staircase again, and the
building started to shake and lights went out. Just
got this tremendous rush of air coming up through a
staircase.

and that's when the building came down. I
heard an explosion and turned around and the building
was coming down.

Loper
Anyway, it's then that I was looking at the
north tower that I saw what I thought looked like a
seagull in the distance almost and it went into the
south tower and the south tower exploded in a huge
fire ball.

Cain
The plane wheel was in the street. You could see the
plane in the building. We went to about West
Street, in front of -- West and Liberty, just before
the pedestrian bridge where Chief McCay

P. HYLAND
Church and Vesey. We were coming across and we walked down. 
We had to go down tothe command center. We carried all our tools, the
bottles, everything, and as we're walking down, part of
the plane engine was sitting right in the street, still
burning. I said, look, this is the plane.

THE WITNESS FIREFIGHTER JULIAN TIMOTHY
JULIAN
BATTALION CHIEF LAKIOTES WHAT COMPANY
THE WITNESS LADDER 118
BATTALION CHIEF LAKIOTES

 THING YOU KNOW SECONDARY DEVICE
WAS CONVINCED FOR WEEK IT WAS SECONDARY
DEVICES
YOU KNOW AND JUST HEARD LIKE AN EXPLOSION
AND THEN CRACKING TYPE OF NOISE AND THEN IT
SOUNDED LIKE FREIGHT TRAIN RUMBLING AND PICKING UP
SPEED AND REMEMBER LOOKED UP AND SAW IT COMING


P. FALLUCCA
but I saw the big fire ball. The stuff was coming down
across the street. It looked like a meteor came flying
across the street. They said it was the engine. I
don't know what it was. It was a big fireball or
something from the plane I guess, came from across the
street in front of our rig, and as we get out of the
rig, there's a cop, city police officer, in the He's telling us, 
"I'm getting out of here. Ijust saw a rocket." He said he saw it come off the
Woolworth Building and hit the tower.

JAMES FODY

Engine Company 9 on Canal Street. I was only there
about ten or fifteen minutes. One of my members was
out in front of quarters and witnessed the plane come
over the city and witnessed the plane hit the
building.

NORRIS

WE WATCHED ANOTHER PLANE COME IN
FELT THE PLANE WAS COMING UNDERNEATH THE PILLAR OF
SMOKE THAT WAS COMING OUT OF THE FIRST TOWER BUT
OBVIOUSLY IT VEERED INTO THE TOWER AND IT TOOK ANOTHER
HIT
WE ACTUALLY FELT LIKE RUMBLING SENSATION
OVER IN BROOKLYN 

COYLE
THE TOWER WAS IT LOOKED TO ME
THOUGHT IT WAS EXPLODING ACTUALLY THATS WHAT
THOUGHT FOR HOURS AFTERWARDS THAT IT HAD
EXPLODED OR THE PLANE OR THERE HAD BEEN SOME
DEVICE ON THE PLANE THAT HAD EXPLODED BECAUSE
THE DEBRIS FROM THE TOWER HAD SHOT OUT FAR OVER
OUR HEADS IT WAS RAINING DOWN

HE SAID WHERE WERE YOU YOU WERE
THERE SAID YEAH WAS RIGHT THERE WHEN IT
BLEW UP HE SAID YOU WERE THERE WHEN THE
PLANES HIT SAID NO WAS THERE WHEN IT
EXPLODED THE BUILDING EXPLODED HE SAID YOU
MEAN WHEN IT FELL DOWN SAID NO WHEN IT
EXPLODED

CURRAN
WAS LOW ENOUGH THAT IT RATTLED THE BUILDINGS WE WERE
STANDING AT WE SAW IT COME OUT FROM BEHIND THE
BUILDINGS AND 

WE WENT IN THROUGH THE REVOLVING DOORS
THERE WAS MINI LOBBY THERE WAS LIKE BROWN HAZE
SMOKE IN THE LOBBY LOT OF THE MARBLE SLABS WERE
FALLING OFF THE WALL CRACKED THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE
IN LIKE THE LITTLE SECTION OF THIS LOBBY ONE GUY WAS
BURNT PRETTY MUCH TO CRISP A

THINK THEY SAID THAT THE FUEL WENT ALL THE
WAY DOWN THE ELEVATOR SHAFT AND WHEN IT FINALLY HIT
ROCK BOTTOM IT BLEW OUT ALL THE ELEVATORS
IS THAT IT
THATS WHAT HAVE BEEN HEARING DONT
KNOW DONT THINK ANYBODY REALLY KNOWS

WE HAD FOUND OUT WHAT GRATE THE LEAK WAS
COMING FROM AND OUR CHIEF PFIEFER WAS BENT OVER WITH
THE
GAS METER WE HEARD THE PLANE WE LOOKED UP

WE WENT THROUGH THE LOBBY ALL THE ELEVATOR BANKS
WERE KIND OF BLOWN OUT AT PROBABLY 70 DEGREE ANGLES 60
DEGREE ANGLES AND THERE IS ALL RUBBLE AND SPOT FIRES
IN THE LOBBY

VALLEBUONA
QUARTERS OF MARINE AND WE WERE WATCHING ACROSS
THE BAY WE COULD SEE THE FIRE IN THE NORTH
TOWER WHEN THE NEXT PLANE THAT WAS GOING TO HIT
THE SOUTH TOWER FLEW OVER OUR HEADS

BORRILLO
We were just about ready to
take up from that box and come back when we heard
the roar of the engines of the plane. Before we
knew it, it was overhead. Within two seconds it
hit the north tower

J. CASALISSI
We went into the building. We
went into the lobby.
The lobby actually looked like the
plane hit the lobby. From what I understand, I
was told afterwards, that a fireball shot down
the elevator shaft and blew out all the windows
in the lobby and blew out the elevator doors.


T. JOHNSON
I was milling around house watch.
Maybe about quarter to we were in house watch
watching the TV. We saw the hole in the building
of the north tower. At that time we didn't know
what was going on, so we were just watching,
watching. Then we saw the plane hit the south
tower. 

WALSH
THE BUILDING DIDNT FALL THE WAY YOU WOULD
THINK TALL BUILDINGS WOULD FALL PRETTY MUCH IT LOOKED
LIKE IT IMPLODED ON ITSELF LOOKED OVER MY SHOULDE

Firefighter Escoffry
is assigned to Ladder Company 20

I was relieved, and a few of us were
standing in front of quarters when we noticed a
plane came directly over the firehouse maybe
around 8:45, somewhere around that time. One of
the guys mentioned that the plane looked like it
was really low.

BARRETT
APPROXIMATELY 950 WE HEARD THIS LOUD
NOISE LOOKED UP AND IT SOUNDED LIKE ANOTHER
AIRPLANE WAS COMING IN THATS WHAT IT SOUNDED IT
SOUNDED LIKE LARGE ENGINE LIKE YOURE SITTING ON THE
SEAT ON THE WING OF THE PLANE

CHARLES
SO WE GET INTO JR MUSIC MEAN THE
BUILDING NEXT TO JR MUSIC WORLD AND THEYRE TALKING
AND OVERHEAR THE COP TELLING EVERYBODY YEAH IT CAME
OVER THE RADIO THAT ONE OF THE PLANES ARE HEADING
TOWARDS THE TRADE CENTER AND THAT ONE OF THE PLANES
WERE ALREADY HIJACKED 

. CARLSEN
I guess about three minutes later you
just heard explosions coming from building two,
the south tower. It seemed like it took forever,
but there were about ten explosions. At the time


Tuesday, June 7, 2016

What is the SIPA Fireball?

SHAPED CHARGE MINI-NUKE (MRR) 350ton? Not seen on Video




9/11 Nanoenergetics Before, During and After

Mark Walsh's comments were your basic defaults. Too hot, fell down.. To the other extreme you have things starting up on fire all around the area without a clear source (dust, jet fuel ect) ( EMT Patricia Ondrovic  9/11Oral History interview killtown) and NYPD officer "Behind the Scenes" , The pressure changes caused a whistling sound some people assumed it was a missile (oral history) was another mistake by most FireFighters. The extremes captured on video or audio records have not been given enough attention. That attention is given in this blog post, YT channel danp5648.. I wonderful if I could change that handle.. Yes Now its
911TruthNOW

Larry Silverstein's "Pull it" was about a demolition but since it was his building and no one was hurt, he could do wherever he wished. The problem is other people didn't like this idea but when left alone he let the truth fly! (but still no crime no confession his building, his way..) 

Jeffrey Scott Shapiro

"Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition" and"A controlled demolition would have minimized the damage caused by the building’s imminent collapse and potentially save lives. Many law enforcement personnel, firefighters and other journalists were aware of this possible option. There was no secret. There was no conspiracy.." but like NIST"not a single sound emanated from the tower area. There were no explosives; I would have heard them. In fact, I remember that in those few seconds, as the building sank to the ground that I was stunned by how quiet it was."

source: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/22/jeffrey-scott-shapiro-jesse-venture-book-lies-truthers-ground-zero-sept-shame.html

So the clap of thunder and giant flash reported by others and the 38 flashes on CNN were products of creative thinking? The clap of thunder was lost during real-time edits on CNN or noise cancelling technology which was on full display during 9/11.. Not covered by everyone but me..  So much for alternative media..  

https://youtu.be/7j08WNdvw4I

Anthrax scares and news threats also was useful in keeping people too powerless to  question. 
 

Globally the effect was a New World Order.. America's New World Order
compliance level was too difficult and taking too long, 9/11 fit the bill perfectly..
To the local level, to highest level Compliance is power.. John Farmer's book
"Ground Truth" talks openly about the troubles the powerful were having on
Page 9.. Of course, never talking directly about killing 3,000 Americans
to get that Compliance Level UP..


9/11 Nobody Knows 2016 A New World Order June Update 3 Bonus Ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOsCkBaKNdU

Interesting foot notes 

NCSTAR1-3 p.iii, 7.7.3..."no steel was recovered from WTC7"

NCSTAR1-3 7.7.2 "because no steel was recovered from WTC7,it is not possible to make any statements about it's quality"

[NCSTAR1A-3.2]"It is likely that much of the burning took place beyond the views of the windows"

[NCSTAR1A-3.2]
"The fires were fed by ordinary office combustibles"

38 flashes caught on CNN 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_YIIE-m1Gs

9/11 The clap of thunder WTC 7 witness 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl_MfsO7VGo

CNN deleted the "fall scene" at first and we will never know if a giant flash happened at 5:20 or a sound was recorded as reported by witnesses and denied by NIST.. Building 7 Witness Read Before AIA Building 7 Vote

Historical View 

9/11  HTA Nanoenergetic Materials
Why Nanoenergetic Materials. Important Components to Energetic Materials. • High Energy Density Fuel Components to Propellants, Fuels, and. Explosives http://www.defenseinnovationmarketplace.mil/resources/2014_MURIReviewSMART-FUNCTIONAL-NANOENERGETIC-MATERIALS.pdf 9/11 Iron Aluminum Matrices or the HTA Arson Nanoenergetics fuel iATL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNCavEpzq4E
9/11 Nano energetics reaction9/11 NIST Banned Videos: Flowing Lava and Thermite Reactions9/11 clear Proof Nanothermite Iron Aluminum Matrices



Wednesday, June 1, 2016

CNN Building 7 Flashes Review 2016 38 Flashes


CNN Building 7 Flashes Review 2016 21 minutes Starting at 4:00 PM

The flashes on CNN seem to focused on a few areas. 38 flashes in around 40 minutes.

Flash locations are as follows

1. 2:26 no interference on individual scan lines
2. 2:31 no interference on individual scan lines
3. 3:05 no interference on individual scan lines
4. 10:50 no interference on individual scan lines
5. 10:58 no interference on individual scan lines
6. 11:02 no interference on individual scan lines
7. 11:35 no interference on individual scan lines
8. 13:39 no interference on individual scan lines
9. 13:55 no interference on individual scan lines
10. 14:07 no interference on individual scan lines
11. 16:39 no interference on individual scan lines
12. 18:12 hard to see
13. 23:52 possible interference on individual scan lines
14. 25:04 possible interference on individual scan lines
15. 26:07 no interference on individual scan lines
16. 27:07 no interference on individual scan lines
17. 27:14 no interference on individual scan lines
18. 28:02 no interference on individual scan lines
19. 28:06 no interference on individual scan lines
20, 28:17 no interference on individual scan lines
21. 28:23 no interference on individual scan lines
22. 28:30 no interference on individual scan lines
23. 28:43 no interference on individual scan lines
24. 28:47 no interference on individual scan lines
25. 28:57 no interference on individual scan lines
26. 29:02 possible interference on individual scan lines
27. 29:10 possible interference on individual scan lines
28. 29:44 no interference on individual scan lines
29. 30:53 no interference on individual scan lines
30. 32:36 possible interference on individual scan lines
31. 32:52 no interference on individual scan lines
32. 33:11 no interference on individual scan lines
33. 35:17 no interference on individual scan lines
34. 35:33 possible interference on individual scan lines
35. 35:47 possible interference on individual scan lines
36. 37:52 possible interference on individual scan lines
37. 38:35 no interference on individual scan lines
38. 39:43 possible interference on individual scan lines

Monday, May 30, 2016

Military radar in Massachusetts to undergo maintenance work morning of 9/11

9/11 Drone 911datasets.org



"Military radar in Massachusetts, which is used by NORAD’s Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS), is out of use this morning in order to undergo maintenance work. [9/11 Commission, 10/27/2003 pdf file; 9/11 Commis
sion, 10/27/2003 pdf file]
Radar Scheduled to Go Down - The J53 radar in North Truro, Massachusetts, is one of a number of radar sites that NEADS receives data from. [United States Space Command, 12/30/1995; Jane's C4I Systems, 9/1/2005; North American Aerospace Defense Command, 10/23/2006 pdf file] It has a range of 250 miles. According to Technical Sergeant Jeffrey Richmond, the assistant air surveillance technician at NEADS, J53 is scheduled to go down this morning for some major repairs to be carried out. [9/11 Commission, 10/27/2003 pdf file; 9/11 Commission, 10/27/2003 pdf file]

NEADS Personnel Refer to Radar - A member of staff at NEADS apparently refers to the J53 radar being offline shortly after those on the NEADS operations floor learn of the Flight 11 hijacking (see (8:38 a.m.) September 11, 2001) and while they are trying to locate the hijacked aircraft. She mentions that NEADS technicians “still should be able to get it” (presumably referring to the plane’s radar track) “without 53.” [North American Aerospace Defense Command, 9/11/2001] (According to Richmond, the area covered by J53 is overlapped by other radars, “so the need for radar to undergo routine maintenance is accounted for.”) ID technician Shelley Watson will later recall that the NEADS ID desk uses the J53 radar as a point from which it attempts to locate Flight 11. At some time during the morning, Richmond insists that J53 be put back online at some capacity. Whether this happens is unstated. [9/11 Commission, 10/27/2003 pdf file; 9/11 Commission, 10/27/2003 pdf file]

Radar Part of 'Joint Surveillance System' - The J53 radar site is part of the Joint Surveillance System (JSS). [Transportation Safety Board of Canada, 9/2/1998; US Department of the Air Force, 11/1/1999 pdf file; 9/11 Commission, 2004] The JSS consists of “long-range radar sites around the perimeter of the US, with data shared by the [Department of Defense], FAA, Customs, and others.” A 2003 Department of Defense report will state that, at the time of the 9/11 attacks, US air defense relies “largely on outward looking ground-based radars, specifically, the Joint Surveillance System.” [US Department of Defense, 7/2003 pdf file] According to General Ralph Eberhart, the commander of NORAD, NORAD has access to the JSS, “which is that system that rings the United States and looks out.” He will say this system “looks for that foreign threat. It looks for someone coming into our airspace that’s not authorized.” [US Congress. Senate, 10/25/2001]

Entity Tags: Joint Surveillance System, Northeast Air Defense Sector, Jeffrey Richmond, Ralph Eberhart, Shelley Watson

Sunday, May 29, 2016

Dear Chief Callan on 9 11 did you try the WTC loudspeaker system

GPS Red Icon means Fire Fighters 

Dear 
Chief Callan,
Did the FDNY try the WTC loudspeaker system or not. Anytime, any tower?
"Minimal transmissions on the handy talky and I think that was because of the building  construction" 
Why didn't FDNY  use the WTC loudspeaker system to announce evacuation orders rather then default to blaming the radios which lead to 343 deaths?

Barry

"But the point is a good one, there was that means to communicate, and,the OEM should have been coordinating and whatever system worked, ensuring an effective chain of command. Of course the OEM may have found that hard to do, since they were out of their base of operations early
I have an interesting thing i am currently looking into, i just purchased a book on aviation disasters, it covers 230 of them from the late 50s to the early 90s and is very interesting in terms of demonstrating dispersal of debris after mid air break up or explosion, vs impact into ground at speed,"


Sam Haschets In regard to which building and when?

Daniel M. Plesse Sam Haschets did the FDNY try the WTC loudspeaker system or not. Anytime, any tower?

Sam Haschets is there a point? do you think the FDNY left their own men in there to die?

Daniel M. Plesse Answer the question Sam Haschets.. Don't you think they should have tried to use it or tested it and reported that success of failure? Would the failure of every system in building point to insiders placing explosives and programming the elevators to fall? THe  9/11 squeegee man said the elevators fell slowly until he hit the emergency stop button.. 9/11 squeegee man got out and was hero, but what about the other elevators that assumed to have crashed? Were they empty? Would only a programmed elevator be able to fall?  Why didn't the emergency stop button work 100% of the time on 9/11? Or maybe it did and some elevators were fully loaded with explosives like a die hard movie..   

Sam Haschets I don't know if it was working post collision - do you?
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Daniel M. Plesse Sam Haschets that issue should be clear by now, don't you think? Not clear means the system was working.. The lights were working.. The narrative was the radios didn't work. Fine but what about the Universal loud speaker system? Chances are they workedfine and same with CCTV around WTC complex which would have captured the car fires starting spontaneously.. The speaker system continuously Billy Joel Music outside the building..

If you don't know, ask around at fair debates.. I don't seems to be theme with you.. The reasons I ask is you DON"T seem to be really thinking for yourself for these 12+ years..

You do know about crash ax in the cockpit.

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CALLAN FIRE MARSHAL STARACE: Today's date is November 2, 2001. The time is 1440 hours. This is Michael Starace, Fire Marshal, New York City Fire Department, conducting an interview with Chief Callan. Q. Could you state your command and - assigned command and rank? A. Assistant Chief Joseph Callan, C...
NYTIMES.COM


http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/Callan_Joseph.txt

Monday, May 23, 2016

Con Edison diesel tanks or structural deficiencies and who falsified WTC 7 blueprints


Con Edison Lawsuit about "structural deficiencies" or Port Authority installed "diesel fuel tanks"

Section 5.0 explains how the inadequate bracing of the interior columns was directly responsible for the progression of global collapse.
https://www.metabunk.org/attachments/aegis-nordenson-expert-report-2-pdf.16785/


nydailynews says its about "structural deficiencies"
"Con Edison and its insurance companies claimed a company owned by developer Larry Silverstein and others was responsible for World Trade Center 7 being destroyed in the terrorist attacks." i.e an inside job.. "
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/court-strikes-wtc-building-collapse-suit-article-1.1537539

thefederation says its about "diesel fuel tanks"


Con Ed and the insurers say that several diesel fuel tanks installed at 7 World Trade Center to power emergency generators for the command center were responsible for feeding the fire and triggering a failure of the building’s steel structural supports.

Con Ed’s suit charges that the Port Authority was negligent in allowing the fuel tanks to be built and in failing to follow city and state fire codes. The Port Authority has maintained that it has met or exceeded code requirements in its buildings.
http://www.thefederation.org/documents/index.htm





WTC7 - The Stiffener Plates Explained



Bailey conversely bases his assumptions on the ignition of the diesel. His summary was essentially thus-There weren't enough shear bolts. If the diesel fuel ignited......Then, later, it was revealed there was (appx to my memory) 30 more bolts than previously known in the relevant parts." Is this part of the blueprint falsification issue?

World Trade Center 9/11 Blueprint Fraud Key Points. Credits From Albury Smith

1. -Two 3/4" X 5-1/2" X 18" WEB stiffener plates (.580" web in A2001 girder) weighing ~21.5# each
2. -12" bearing vs 11" is only 1/2"
3. 
The three W12 X 19 beams were only there to stiffen that one spandrel beam
The key to the stiffeners is that they strengthen both the web and bottom flanges.  NIST's failure mode was in the flange.  When they got caught they obfuscated by saying they weren't necessary for the analysis because there was no web crippling.  The 
WEB stiffener plates factor that defeats the initiation hypothesis and the spandrel beam stiffeners would also stiffen the G3005 beam and in turn work against the girder buckling also defeats the initiation hypothesis..  

 Dr. Pepper's letter to Todd Zinser at Commerce: 

Wednesday, May 18, 2016

9/11 Commission staff memos behind the 28 Pages



National Archives releases 9/11 Commission staff memos behind the 28 Pages.. Received via Barbara Honegger, "The Cat's out of The Bag ..." The memos can be viewed at:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc…/2838281/2553-001-1.pdf

Bingo! Note the pages in the Congressional Report recommend for review in this staff memo and this: On page 13, it talks about the CIA headquarters getting vital information that if acted on, had the potential to stop the planed attack, but the CIA failed to respond.

On page 31, the report notes that "Neither the CIA nor the FBI were able to confirm if KSM was in the US or sending recruits before 9/11". As I understand, Marshal points out that this statement means that the story about who attacked us that day was obtained by forced confession alone, and that there's NO other evidence to validate what the official story claims

On page 153, there's a communication between the FBI Headquarters and a New York agent. In short, as I understand it, the New York agent is not a happy camper because the SOP of the CIA is going to get Americans killed.

On Page 158, the short story is that Congress wanted to talk to that fellow that's was a informant with the FBI out in San Diego, that happen to have a couple of the hijackers renting from him. It looks like the FBI was playing defense counsel at one point and needed a lot of legal cover for the guy if he was going to be forced to spill the beans, even though Congress already knew that the dude was full of it, nothing happened about getting the guy on record.

On page 159, the FBI started leaning on their informant where as he let on that he was actually pretty close to the hijackers but "...expressed disbelief that the two were involved]."

On Page 162, the informant uses the Guidelines, as set forth by the Attorney General to say that he had no clue about the two.

On page 163, the San Diego office did get a clue but when Congress asked them about it, they said that the informant was clueless.

One page 164, the FBI guy that had contact with the informant attributed inconsistencies in the informants' lack of a clue because of the guys' clueless personality.

After a couple of redacted lines from the same page, the same agent told congress that the informant was "very credible, highly reliable, very, very credible, very useful" and that the informant had been "duped".

Finally, at the bottom of page 164, Congress has got some serious issues with all of this and thinks the guy might be full of it.

On page 167, headquarters knew about the two, connected to the informant that didn't have a clue but headquarters kept the San Diego office clueless about the two.

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