Wednesday, July 15, 2015

9/11 Second Plane Witness Review

Hank Mibenheim Jr,
Hans Kunnen: I saw the second plane approach from over the river. I thought it was a strange place to fly a plane. Maybe it was a university prank or a TV shoot for an airline advertisement. At no time did I think the plane was a fake. I’ve travelled a lot and been in and around planes for years. It was a very real plane. It made real plane noise. The sound of a plane accelerating is very loud. One of my enduring memories is the noise just before the explosion. It was a real plane; I could almost see the people behind the windows. It then melted into the building and created the fireball. To say that it was not a real plane is absurd. I saw it, I heard it, I felt the aftermath of its impact.


Undicisettembre: Can you describe what you saw and heard of that second impact? For example, did you notice the plane's United Airlines markings? Did you observe any details of its trajectory? Are there any other details that struck you?

Hans Kunnen: I was standing about 150-200 m from the South Tower in Liberty Street. I heard and saw a plane flying low over the harbour. It accelerated and banked towards the South Tower. The noise was very loud as the plane accelerated. I do not recall the markings but I will never forget the fireball, noise and smoke as it melted into the South Tower.


Undicisettembre: How did people react after the South Tower collapsed?

Hans Kunnen: I was at the Staten Island Ferry terminal by then. They were screams as the entire terminal shook. I thought it was mortars or shells or cruise missiles exploding nearby. At about the same time the gates to the ferry opened and we were allowed on. The movement was orderly but tense. I remember seeing lots of ladies' shoes being abandoned so they could walk more quickly. There were shouts of “Don’t panic. We don’t want a stampede”.
So airfleets.net has each 9/11 flight as "written off".. So someone posted FAA current status of each plane and they were mostly correct.. So I checked Wayback machine for the originals..i.e look for the "written off" and sure enough.. No archive.
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Tail number N612UA Flight 175 and Flight UA17
Status : Written off (most likely being sold) 
2 x PW JT9D-7R4D
Serial number 21873 LN:41

United Airlines N612UA (Boeing 767 - MSN 21873
http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b767-21873.htm

Boeing 767 - MSN 22332 - N334AA 

Status : Written off ( and for sale) 
http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b767-22332.htm


I wonder what "Status : Written off" means.

Boeing 757 - MSN 28142 - N591UA 
Status : Written off
Last Registration : N591UA

http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b757-28142.htm

Boeing 757 - MSN 24602 - N644AA
Last Airline American Airlines

Status : Written off
Last Registration : N644AA

http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b757-24602.htm

Saved 4 times between December 28, 2009 and December 12, 2013.??

Just 4 times?


More Witnesses to second plane


59 Amateur videos edited
http://www.11-septembre.com/GoogleEarth/911maps.kml

http://www.11-septembre.com/GoogleEarth/911maps.kml

  • Hank Mißenheim Jr Daniel M. Plesse I didn't notice any logos or markings that I could identify with an airline. The finish was flat rather than the usual glossy finish. I heard it before seeing it. This turbo-jet was hauling ass, it's engines were close to maxing out. Usually don't hear a turbo-jet like that except at take-off. As for the Statue of Liberty, I don't know what its status was that morning. I was pulled over on I-78 taking one last look at the Towers before continuing home. I was in the Holland tunnel when the first aircraft hit after working overnight in Manhattan.
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  • Hank Mißenheim Jr Daniel M. Plesse , my approximate coordinates were HERE. I'm sure a hell of lot of people also saw it. No way a large aircraft flying at low altitude, making that much noise, over a city like Bayonne (and every other populated area on its flight path south) on a clear Tuesday morning didn't get noticed.
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  • Hank Mißenheim Jr No, that's obviously an United Airlines jet. What I saw looked more military, a dull dark grey finish. I was thinking cargo aircraft at the time. I was more transfixed on how the aircraft was flying rather than who owned and operated the aircraft. The fact it was flying at very low altitude, and deliberately changed course towards the WTC where another plane had just slammed into the North Tower.

    Battalion Chief Thomas Vallebuona P3 “So from there we went down the quarters of marine (9) and we were watching across the bay we could see the fire in the North tower when the next plane that was going to hit the south tower flew over our heads

    NYPD Roll Roll #3 1.jpg



    NYPD Roll  #3 1.jpg



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