Sunday, May 4, 2014

9-11 Second Plane U-Turn and Circle Witnesses

Not Flight 175 

BATTALION CHIEF THOMAS VALLEBUONAMarine 9, which is right by the Navy pier, where you can see right across the bay.
Vallebuona: I don’t know if it was quite over our heads or coming over Staten Island. So the plane seemed to come, but it was in front of us, really close. You couldn’t get the perspective of the size of the plane because I saw two engines. It seemed to make a turn and it was coming over our heads, and it seemed to go slow and I’m saying to the aide, Steve, what’s going on, what’s that plane doing because it still hasn’t registered. We were there for a couple of minutes.
And all of a sudden, it was like it just took off across the bay. I couldn’t believe how fast it went. At first, I thought it was just somebody trying to take a look at Manhattan. And it just went right across right into the building. It looked like it got sucked into the building. You couldn’t even see it disintegrate. It just went so fast and it looked like it just disappeared in the building and I heard it seconds later. I got that sick feeling in my stomach and, sure enough, the computer in the car went off.

BARRY MAWN, FBI ASSISTANT DIRECTOR
My initial thought was this was a terrible accident, but I requested that these people start to respond to the World Trade complex and that I would meet them down there. We were observing the evacuation when we actually saw the second plane come down, flying north to south, actually turn around. And then we lost it momentarily behind the buildings, and then the next time we saw it, it was headed straight for the south tower. 

JENNIFER OBERSTEIN, LEADING HOTELS OF THE WORLD

Then suddenly the ground below me started to shake. There was a loud, loud noise. I looked up and saw the giant silver belly of a huge plane. It was not so close that I could touch it, but it was the closest I'd ever been to a plane in-flight. It was going right up the West Side Highway, almost as if it was using it as a guide. Then it suddenly did a 90 degree turn and hit the second tower. I saw a big hole. I was unnerved, to say the least. Reality was starting to set in.

9/11 Emergency Calls Transcripts MALE
A: The first one they think was a guy shooting the missiles off the Woolworth Building.
And the second one they think is an airplane that was circling to watch it, and hit the World Trade

"the second one they think is an airplane that was circling to watch it, and hit the WTC." 


Kerry Cashelof 
"At this point I was still under the impression that this was an accident and after watching and filming this other plane make a U turn and head back towards the towers nothing in the world could have prepared me for what would happen next."

http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?threadID=58174&start=200

"U-Turn" Witness 
"On September 1, my buddy and I went to NYC to work as Ironworkers. We got dispatched to work on a high-rise in Queens. We stopped working for about twenty minutes as the first building burned wondering what we could do, when we saw the second plane come around the corner of the other tower. He made a u-turn and crashed into it right before our eyes..."
http://www.journalregister.com/towntalk/html/messages/4
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9/11 Helicopter Following Plane Witness Tim Main and Mike Ballou

9/11 Flight 175 Flying in Circles 

9/11 Drone circling around World Trade Center every 5:65 minutes until impact 



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WORLD TRADE CENTER TASK FORCE INTERVIEW BATTALION CHIEF THOMAS VALLEBUONA
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110418.PDF



Tom Vallebuona 
"I watched it sort of lumber around on a turn. It was almost over our heads.
Firehouse: Did it come that far south?

Vallebuona: I don’t know if it was quite over our heads or coming over Staten Island. So the plane seemed to come, but it was in front of us, really close. "
http://www.firehouse.com/article/10568000/battalion-chief-tom-vallebuona




Jennifer Spell


"...just about 5 minutes after I got outside and was shooting, the second plane...circled around and it flew over New Jersey and it came in and just..."

Why don't we see video footage of the aircraft as it "circled around" and "flew over New Jersey"?

"more U-Turn" Witnesses 
"On September 1, my buddy and I went to NYC to work as Ironworkers. We got dispatched to work on a high-rise in Queens. We stopped working for about twenty minutes as the first building burned wondering what we could do, when we saw the second plane come around the corner of the other tower. He made a u-turn and crashed into it right before our eyes..."


Richard Polatchek


"Then I heard this terrible roar, just over my right shoulder. The plane was so close I could read the BOEING 767 painted under the cockpit window. Then all of a sudden, the pilot cut the engines. That's what no one talks about. He just glided in for the last couple hundred yards. There was this weird, horrible silence right before that plane hit."


Examination of United Airlines Boeing 767-200 photographs show that there is no "BOEING 767" marking under the cockpit windows. The closest text is "WORLDWIDE SERVICE" and is located behind and below the cockpit windows.


flying north to south, actually turn around. And then we lost it momentarily behind the buildings, and then the next time we saw it, it was headed straight for the south tower."

Here are some witnesses who claim to have seen the WTC2 aircraft collision. Many of these reports were recorded immediately after the WTC2 impact while others were recorded some time after the event.



Saw Teen See


"...we saw the, this blue and red plane coming by and er... smash into the, er... south tower..."
From 'How The Twin towers Collapsed'. A Darlow Smithson production in association with Channel 4 Television. Channel 4 Television Corporation 2001.

None of these witnesses report seeing a United Airlines 767-200 collide with the WTC2 tower but they all appear to have seen some sort of aircraft fly directly into WTC2.

Saturday, May 3, 2014

The Lexington Avenue 9/11 Hijacker Stack

From

On Native Soil

Source: On Native Soil Torrent

Lexington Avenue apartment number nothing 161 Lexington Ave is a apartment building Alhamz and Khalid have been identified as both living at 161 Lexington Ave address without an apartment Number. " Alhamzi gave a New York State driver license, listing 161 Lexington Ave. in Manhattan as his address. The building is a hotel whose records show he never stayed there. The New York State Department of Motor Vehicles said it had issued no license to someone with that name." http://altbib.com/bak/dox/1690.html - See more at: http://s1222.photobucket.com/user/danp5648/media/PhotoIdentificationcard.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2#sthash.eeYNkSKu.dpuf
Lexington Avenue, apartment number nothing

161 Lexington Ave is a apartment building

Alhamz and Khalid  have been identified as both living at 161 Lexington Ave address without an apartment Number.

" Alhamzi gave a New York State driver license, listing 161 Lexington Ave. in Manhattan as his address. The building is a hotel whose records show he never stayed there. The New York State Department of Motor Vehicles said it had issued no license to someone with that name."

http://altbib.com/bak/dox/1690.html

Do you use Torrents? Download On Native Soil its filled up with fraud.

"The tip off list"

Cathal Flynn Former FAA Assoc Administrator - Civil Aviation Security.

Unaware of the "tip off list"

Jane Garvey "can't say"

Who was the 12 names on FAA "No fly list"?

Alexis Obrien said

9/11 was crazy, but i turned in one of the people taking flying lessons down here in Winterhaven Flor..called the FBI on em.. and would do it again.. i served 8 years for my country, and 9/11 was horrible!!!! They came and took the whole family, never heard another thing @ it, what do u suppose happened to em?

9-11: UA93; impact time, seismic data considered
http://www.oredigger61.org/?p=1478




Lexington Avenue apartment number nothing 161 Lexington Ave is a apartment building Alhamz and Khalid have been identified as both living at 161 Lexington Ave address without an apartment Number. " Alhamzi gave a New York State driver license, listing 161 Lexington Ave. in Manhattan as his address. The building is a hotel whose records show he never stayed there. The New York State Department of Motor Vehicles said it had issued no license to someone with that name." http://altbib.com/bak/dox/1690.html - See more at: http://s1222.photobucket.com/user/danp5648/media/PhotoIdentificationcard.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2#sthash.eeYNkSKu.dpuf
Lexington Avenue apartment number nothing 161 Lexington Ave is a apartment building Alhamz and Khalid have been identified as both living at 161 Lexington Ave address without an apartment Number. " Alhamzi gave a New York State driver license, listing 161 Lexington Ave. in Manhattan as his address. The building is a hotel whose records show he never stayed there. The New York State Department of Motor Vehicles said it had issued no license to someone with that name." http://altbib.com/bak/dox/1690.html - See more at: http://s1222.photobucket.com/user/danp5648/media/PhotoIdentificationcard.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2#sthash.eeYNkSKu.dpuf
Lexington Avenue apartment number nothing 161 Lexington Ave is a apartment building Alhamz and Khalid have been identified as both living at 161 Lexington Ave address without an apartment Number. " Alhamzi gave a New York State driver license, listing 161 Lexington Ave. in Manhattan as his address. The building is a hotel whose records show he never stayed there. The New York State Department of Motor Vehicles said it had issued no license to someone with that name." http://altbib.com/bak/dox/1690.html - See more at: http://s1222.photobucket.com/user/danp5648/media/PhotoIdentificationcard.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2#sthash.eeYNkSKu.dpuf

Friday, May 2, 2014

Operation Make Video look Shitty on 9/11

backgrounds  of "9/11 Wargames Vigilant Warrior Drone Version 3"

Tuesday, April 29, 2014

9/11 Wargames Vigilant Warrior Drone Version 3




Hello Dan,

Sorry for the late,
I work to identify the plane of the photography.
But first, i would tell you that i not approve your methodology.
If i understand, you pretend the plane of the photo is a drone, circling around the WTC and then crash into WTC2.

It’s not my way to study a case, sorry.
Why having the conclusion first and then ask for corroborate your theory???
It’s the NIST method :D
There are 3 important airports around WTC: JFK, LGA & EWR with a lot of traffic before 2nd crash!!! Please consider that in your analysis.

First, did you try to know the location of photographer?
I did it and think he must have been perched somewhere in Renwick St, or Spring St. around 40.7259 -74.0082. (Look Roll #2 12.jpg and see the others buildings and advertising panel in front of WTC7) near 1 mile from WTC.
So help to locate the exact Point of View (POV), and calculate dimensions of airplane considering angles & distances.
Same thing with the model of aircraft and time of picture (know your estimation: 8:56)

4 candidates:
08:50 - Beacon 6520 landing LGA  alt: 1750m, distance from POV: 10000m
08:54 - Beacon 3107 landing LGA alt: 1600m, distance from POV: 8320m
08:57 - Beacon 5667 AAL1088 landing LGA (A/C: MD80) too low to match
08:59 - Beacon 344 N28HE landing LGA alt: 1220m, distance from POV: 7430m, but very low speed (about 240km/h). A copter? NYPD Chopper?

Your question (ACARS): "Does the Red Circle mean the location of Flight 175? Or Sending location? "
It’s the Sending Location, from a RGS (Radio Ground Station), it’s usually the nearest RGS who send the message to the airplane.

Did you used the Google Earth kml file of 9/11maps? (see link below)



Thx,
Vincent


Le 28 avr. 2014 à 09:53, Dan Plesse <dan.plesse@gmail.com> a écrit :

Dan Plesse <dan.plesse@gmail.com>

5:58 PM (9 minutes ago)

to Vincent
​ The methodology is based on plane don't normally look like this and witnesses and seeing ALL the features on the photograph i.e strange nose
and star like black spot.

Blue logo plane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH78TRSIb_A








How far was Sean Mutagh 5 Penn Plaza from "Flight 11" flight path.

Did "flight 11" curve or follow a straight line?




Monday, April 28, 2014

David Handschuh No Plane Guy on West Street

5 hours ago
that guy in my opinion is one of the best eyewitnesses
cut that 1st clip with ya video editor
they try and get the planers argue with the no planers, both happened if you ask me
were was he again? He says something in the beginning.
find out
outside and liquor store
the liquor store
24 - 25
see if he has a good view
25 long street ?
THey didn't ask for his name too.
going for a shower now
hes contracting their bullshit lol
Talk later
they want him to go away
the media mix up witnesses from the 1st plane up with the second too
to fuck with your brain
watch out for that
I fuck up 1010 wins recording
they want to cement in ya head a plane hit the second building
they even correct people that say 737 and say maybe it was a 757 like in one of those last clips for the 1st plane
time to go
talk later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHrbQ0u3xzk

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