Wednesday, March 18, 2020

Does this fragment belong to Flight 77

NMAH-2006-12449.jpg
Boeing 757-223
The American Airlines Flight 77 aircraft was a Boeing 757-223 (registration N644AA).? ?? 

C.F.R.P. made up the vertical tail and the rudder on American Airlines Flight 587, the plane that crashed. Both the vertical tail and the rudder came off before the crash, but it is not known whether this failure caused the crash or happened as the plane twisted in its fall. When it struck the ground, the fuselage still had scraps of composite material attached, with some pieces ending in fibers extending upward like brush bristles.

Does this fragment belong to flight 77?

The airframe further incorporates carbon-fiber reinforced plastic wing surfaces, Kevlar fairings and access panels, plus improved aluminum alloys, which together reduce overall weight by 2,100 pounds (950 kg).




Airplane fragment in patriotic box

TITLE:
Airplane fragment in patriotic box
MAKER:
Elgas, G. Penny  
MEASUREMENTS:
overall: 25 in x 18 in x 6 in; 63.5 cm x 45.72 cm x 15.24 cm
OBJECT NAME:
Box
DATE MADE:
2001
RELATED EVENT:
September 11th Attacks  
CREDIT LINE:
Gift of Penny Elgas
ID NUMBER:
2003.0058.01
ACCESSION NUMBER:
2003.0058
CATALOG NUMBER:
2003.0058.01
SEE MORE ITEMS IN:
Political and Military History: September 11
DATA SOURCE:
National Museum of American History
GUID:
http://n2t.net/ark:/65665/ng49ca746aa-5b66-704b-e053-15f76fa0b4fa
EDAN-URL:
edanmdm:nmah_1194423
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Information, Smithsonian

10:49 AM (8 hours ago)
 to me
Dear Daniel Plesse,

Thank you for contacting the Smithsonian, where you can explore, discover, and create every day. Your email or letter has been received at the Smithsonian’s Office of Visitor Services.

The Smithsonian holds some 156 million objects in the collections of 19 museums, the National Zoo, and Smithsonian Gardens. Some 16 million objects are cataloged in our collections database (collections.si.edu). I have searched the collections database for some of the keywords you have provided ("white plane part," "beam from north tower," "Penny Eglas," "Metal from the Rubble," "Glass and Metal coin," etc.), but did not find any relevant results.

Each museum and department manages it's own collection, so to find a particular object not in the collections database requires contacting the museum/department that holds that object. Unfortunately, the information you've provided thus far does not help identify the correct museum/department. If you know which Smithsonian museum might have received the item, we forward your inquiry to the appropriate staff. 
Please let us know if you learn which Smithsonian museum holds the object you are looking for.


Sincerely,


Office of Visitor Services
Smithsonian


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Subject: Re: Re: hello

Are you are assuming these items are not your display items without
looking?

Other items:

Are any of these items apart of the collection currently?

[image: 911 molten steel exhibits.jpg]

Have you positively identified Penny Eglas brown fiber white Plane plane
part as belonging to which
aircraft 1. A drone 2. a military decoy plane ?

I don't think American Air can afford to have three layers carbon fiber
attached anywhere on there planes
nor has any evidence shown that carbon exists outside a few military uses.

Can you do research on this?

[image: Penny Eglas White Plane 2.jpg]

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 10:44 AM Information, Smithsonian <info@si.edu>
wrote:

> Dear Daniel Plesse,
>
> Thank you for contacting the Smithsonian <http://www.si.edu/>, where you
> can explore, discover, and create every day. Your email or letter has been
> received at the Smithsonian’s Office of Visitor Services.
>
> Smithsonian staff is unable to comment on (e.g., speculate on intended
> use, authenticity, age, materials, value) or to do research on items
> outside our own collections. For general information, see the Smithsonian’s
> website here <https://www.si.edu/faqs/appraisals>.
>
> Local sources of information or personnel to help you identify your
> object(s) are:
>
> - University or area libraries
> - State and local historical societies or museums
> - State extension services
> - Auction houses or appraisers who specialize in objects such as yours

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