Saturday, March 22, 2014

9/11 Single File PDF of Oral histories by the New York Times



The oral histories "did people see 2nd plane" results
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=134&Itemid=60

Andrew Johnson Jim Fetzer podcast 9/11 Oral History podcast 

Version 2 file size 9/11 7060 Pages of Oral histories 64540kb
  • http://investingnideas.com/7060_Pages_Oral_histories_Version2_64540kb.pdf
  • Maxwell Bridges Dear Mr. Plesse,

    In the Norma & Maxwell show from last week, I did indeed look into the oral histories.


    +++ Begin Quote from me
    I haven't read the 7,060 pages of oral histories of 9/11. However, when I insert "plane parts" into the PDF search of this file, I get this list of first-responders who mentioned seeing plane parts: T. Fitzpatrick, M. Delgado, M. Guttenberg, S. Gregory, S. Hess, Wernick, J. Drury, J. Gombo, G. DeSimone, R. Goldbach, F. Gribbon, L. Tierney, K. Zarr, J. Chiafari, K. Martin, M. Hazel, T. Smith, R. Saulle, R. Norris, and T. Brown.

    Is Ms. Rae accusing all of these first responders as being liars or the perpetrators? Is Ms. Rae suggesting that these witnesses were triggered into associating observed debris with airplanes because "plane parts" was dropped by the interviewers in stilted questions?
  • Dan Plesse Maxwell Bridges Holy crap those are good results. The copy I just downloaded for a test was not working at all.

    The copy of the PDF I downloaded should have just played a rick roll video.


Useful for searches across all the 9/11 the oral history PDF's. 

search results keyword "rumble"

"I hear the rumble, and I heard a rumble that we thought was another plane. That's what immediately everyone said, there's a plane 15 M. DELGADO coming, there's another plane coming. So we all looked up and what we saw was tower, I guess, 2, the south tower, begin to do this [?]. The top kind of did this and there was a horrendous rumble."

"Now, your hand is showing that it's kind of tilted in one direction. What direction did it tilt? A. It was tilting towards us, so it had been to be tilting eastward. Q. East? A. Maybe southeast. I'm not sure because at this point it's total pandemonium. At that point we hear the rumble and, you know, this is it. I figure I'm dead. I thought this tower was going to topple."

7060 Page PDF torrent File
http://investingnideas.com/oral_histories_7060_pages.pdf

7060 Page PDF direct File
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLRWlNQlNKWkRzSWs/edit

PATH Train dispatcher for the E Train heard this Rumble 9/11 1010 Wins 1:04 Mark

I searched and did not download the PDF.

"airplane parts"

http://investingnideas.com/oral_histories_7060_pages.pdf

GREGORY

I was listening to the tape this morning of the people calling up and they were describing the plane that hit the building. Actually, so many people saw it. They actually described the plane as it came in. They said it was a military-type plane and it was green and it was this. I mean, I never saw the color of the plane.
http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/Gregory_Stephen.txt
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Friday, March 14, 2014

East Harlem explosion registers



East Harlem explosion registers on earthquake seismograph
According to the Columbia’s Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, the explosion registered a magnitude .5 and matches 9/11 WTC 7 earthquake.

Read more: http://pix11.com/2014/03/12/east-harlem-explosion-registers-on-earthquake-seismograph

Matches 9/11 blast WTC 7 Blast

Earle, Paul USGS Jun 18 to me

Good morning Dan,

As I mentioned in my last e-mail, I have not done any work on the 9/11 explosions. Retrieving and analyzing these data would take considerable time and has been done by another researcher (Kim). I do not plan to follow up on this. A large archive of seismic data can be found here: http://www.iris.edu/dms/nodes/dmc/data/types/waveform-data/ perhaps the data you are looking for is there. I'm sorry I do not have time to explain how to analyses and process these data.

Given the small coupling of seismic waves into the ground from non-buried surface exposions, I do not think any more useful information can be extracted from them.

World Trade Center Some New Chemicals fused iron spheres

Some New Chemicals fused iron spheres were Mentioned by Dr. Cahill



My Private Emails Steven Dutch ,
Noam Chomsky and FEMA Jim 

From: Dan Plesse [dan.xxxx@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:24 PM
To: Dutch, Steven
Subject: So What happened to real scientists on 9/11?
So What happened to real scientists?

Some New Chemicals were Mentioned by Dr. Cahill Such as Fused iron Spheres

(Exposing Dave Thomas, Ryan Mackey, Sergei Dudarev and Zdenek Bazant as Moon bat Crazy)



1.  Scientist Sergei Dudarev, : "Unusual Magnetic Forces" Caused Twin Towers Collapse
2. Dave Thomas and  Judy Wood theory of thermite creation: Just Pure Happenstance.
3. 9/11 Dr. Cahill Iron found in the air! and not reported
4. MIT Pancake Theory,  
5.  (Purdue's) "Flash Flood Theory" liquid did it.
6. Steel grew and the building fell theory. NIST
7. Steel floor(s) bent or bowed down and the building fell theory NIST
8. Zdenek Bazant PhD's "Pile Driver" Theory
9.  Dean Warwick Global Infrasound Caused Twin Towers Collapse
10. NASA's Ryan Mackey says 9/11 Pile Driver Theory could be a solid or a liquid.
11. Judy Wood's Electromagnetic Beams Common Knowledge at Aquiess
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn1JkRxBDS0






He does not answer.

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Dutch, Steven <dutchs@uwgb.edu> wrote:

So you have no personal experience to justify believing in conspiracies. Also you have no problem accepting reports of the towers being brought down by aircraft as truth. Right?

Steve Dutch

Reply:

Sorry about your survey not going well. Reporting as things actually happened should not be defined as anything but telling truth. So no I am not going to answer your survey question. 


On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Dutch, Steven <dutchs@uwgb.edu> wrote:
So you believe there was a conspiracy to bring down the twin towers. What personal, first-hand basis do you have for believing that plots like this exist? Not what you read, not what someone told you, not how you fit things together, but actual, personal experience or observation that there are plots like this in the world. You choose to believe the interpretations of 9/11 in terms of controlled demolition or particle beams. Why? What experience have you had to convince you the world works this way?

I could see if you'd been framed for a crime you didn't commit, or had a bad tour in 'Nam where you say reports being falsified, but so far I have asked this question at every opportunity, and I have not found a single person - not one - who can tell me any experience they personally have had with a conspiracy on this scale, or any personal experience that justifies such beliefs. Most, I'd be willing to bet, have never faced a single moment of real danger or discomfort in their whole lives.

Steve Dutch
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Dutch, Steven <dutchs@uwgb.edu> wrote:
Well, that's interesting, but you didn't answer my question. What personal experience have you had that leads you to take conspiracies seriously? I mean, have you ever had a personal experience other than hearsay? I hear all kinds of babble after major events, but I simply assume most of it is people repeating misinformation to fill air time.

Steve Dutch
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Dutch, Steven <dutchs@uwgb.edu> wrote: So malfunctioning electrical equipment = a plot to bring down the twin towers? Has there actually been a catastrophic electrical failure at SUNY Stony Brook?

What's really funny is conspiracy believers miss the real conspiracies. Listen to the commercials on any talk show that deals in them, Or the ads on conspiratorial web sites. Fly-by-night diet and medical fads, dubious investments, questionably legal tax-avoidance schemes. Who stands to profit from 9-11? Follow the money.

9-11 truthers tend to be far left like Cynthia McKinney or libertarian. (Tend, not invariably). I'm going to guess you're libertarian. So I challenge you to contact Ron Paul or some other major libertarian figures and ask them specifically what they plan to do to protect individuals from abuse by powerful private sector interests. What do they plan to do to shut down bogus RIAA lawsuits, patent and copyright trolls, etc.? Since these reforms don't require any major restructuring of the Government, they could be enacted right now. So ask them what laws they have introduced. Ask them what laws they plan to introduce. My guess is none.

Steve Dutch

Wednesday, March 12, 2014

U.S. General Admits to Remote Control of Airliners Could Also Confirm 9/11 Drone Photos


People are saying that Flight 370 was remotely hijacked otherwise I would have never known about these  "Bush administration" comments of remote technology which was made available via the  lone gunman 9/11 predictive programming episode.
Oct 2001 = Another technology that the Bush administration is keen to probe would permit an air traffic controller to take over a distressed aircraft and land it by remote control. pg 3
http://www.willis.com/documents/publications/Industries/Aerospace/GAB+-04_10_2001.PDF

U.S. General Admits to Remote Control of Airliners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHrcdihDW_0

Photo Forensics: 9/11 NYPD Drone for Lazy People | Taking back the Narrative
http://investigatesandyhook.blogspot.com/2014/02/photo-forensics-911-nypd-drone-for-lazy.html

9 11 Jumper photo under 1400% magnification turns into CIA Drone NIST NYPD FOIA



9/11 Roll #3 1.jpg 9/11 NYPD Drone 911 Photo of smoking gun small jet plane military
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0pxVbXyB9OLMkFaWE45bGZsVjQ/edit


http://s1222.photobucket.com/user/danp5648/media/nypdDrone2.jpg.html

Saturday, March 8, 2014

Operation TRIPOD Giuliani The equipment was already there at (Pier 92) WNYC

Operation TRIPOD Giuliani The equipment was already there (Pier 92) WNYC


Dear Kirk (mouth piece for the government) Mitchell,

While reading your book "The Spin Doctor" I found some ironic statements as far as spin goes on page 246 regarding the NTSB and FBI. For one the Black Box Signal was reported to be broadcasting i.e
NY Document reporting the Black Box signal was located here http://goo.gl/fRzvRa

On Page 261 you quoted without correction four black boxes while the amount should have been two with a total four functions.

On Page 260 you failed to name of the drill operation TRIPOD. New York City Office of Emergency Management (OEM) by the way was located in WTC 7 and was evacuated to (pier 92) early and then "pulled" at 5:20 pm on 9/11.

TRIPOD exercise is supported by "The Office of Justice Programs, through the Office for Domestic Preparedness". The Office for Domestic Preparedness was the effort assigned to Dick Cheney by George W. Bush on May 8, 2001.

9/11 Commission Hearings Special Coverage from WNYC
Giuliani "The equipment was already there (Pier 92), so we were able to establish a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center. "

There could have been a separate FEMA team for the scheduled 9/12 bioterror drill and another earlier team for September 10th, or 11th , a drill which we have learned is named Operation TRIPOD. It seems that prior to the Giuliani testimony there has been scant mentioning of the bioterror drill.

You spin was "It was cancelled" however the drill was management of a disaster from "point B" i.e first-ever Trial Point of Dispensing (a) drill and most likely the reason for source of all the anthrax rumors on 9/11.

NEW YORK CITY OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HOLDS TRIAL POINT-OF-DISPENSING DRILL (TRIPOD)

Drill for Distribution of Medication In the Event a Biological Attack Had Been Scheduled for September 12, 2001
http://www.nyc.gov/html/oem/html/news/02_05_22_tripod.shtml
Black box follow up:
http://s1222.photobucket.com/user/danp5648/media/BlackBoxFollowup3_08_2014.jpg.html

http://goo.gl/fRzvRa

My Email to FEMA  Jim Chestnut about thermite explosions which where filmed.
http://goo.gl/rgTnlt

Again he creates his own spin based on what he can see, basically claiming blindness to avoid the truth and seeing a thermitic reaction.

Page 259 "No audio from the video that recorded the collapse registered any such burst of sound and no witness came forward claiming they heard an explosion" Again more spin.

1. First NIST never asked the public to come forward.
2. Witnesses were record on national broadcast 1010 Wins reporting hearing explosions and seeing WTC 7 exploding
3  New York University medical student with the name Daryl, interviewed on 1010 WINS
Starts at 1:16:00 Witnessed and broadcast what he saw http://goo.gl/MZ1Uxk 



4. Amy Goodman Filmed at WTC 7 during a period the sound and video of WTC 7 during collapse initiation and the video was edited with sound removed.
Amy Goodman says she was NOT at WTC 7  http://goo.gl/NX7vnQ



So just who is spinning Kirk?

Sunday, February 23, 2014

9/11 Why Nuclear and Why Not Conventional


Some of you know I am strongly supportive of the conventional, controlled demolition theory with the footnote, "some 'behind the counter' technologies or concoctions used." I hope you'll share this with with as many as you can and inviting explosives experts, both military and industrial to the conversation. Let's keep the heat on these 2nd generation 'paperclip' scientist who committed this atrocity of the ages. Thanks folks. Keith
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  • Norma Rae and 5 others like this.
  • Keith Kampschaefer The biggest problem I have with Nuclear weapons is the radioactive contamination that it leaves behind. Calvin Raven Eagle do you have anything that would explain how they could have use nukes and not receive and uprising about radiation levels?
  • Atahan Ganduu Wait who are we talking about and what did they do?
  • Keith Kampschaefer No, and I have NOT read your MOUNTAIN data regarding your hypothesis. Is everything piled high to be considered equitable content?
  • Atahan Ganduu I just wish I knew what you are talking about
  • Keith Kampschaefer If you have a comment addressed to someone specific, please include at least a first name to cut down of the confusion of who is taking who. Thank you. I assumed Calvin was talking to me after i asked about nuclear radiation. I don't think the radiation part was answered unless I missed something.
  • Tracy Lowtemp Blevins I myself swallowed and breathed a lot of the WTC fumes, and I don't have cancer. And cancer rates are not skyrocketing in the Ground Zero neighborhood. This is because inhaling iron particles doesn't give you cancer. It gives you scarred lungs.
  • Kim Mantenga I like that OP Keith Kampschaefer. I'm with you !
  • Maxwell Bridges Dear Mr. Keith Kampschaefer,

    Conventional controlled demolitions have several issues in being able to account for the evidence.


    First of all, destruction is one level of planning and implementation, while "overkill pulverization" is another and is a logistics hurdle in the short time bomb-sniffing dogs took holidays in the days preceding 9/11.

    Second, the brisance (
    Brisance is the shattering capability of a high explosive, determined mainly by its detonation pressure) to achieve such pulverization from chemical-based explosives and incendiaries would have very loud. A nugget of truth from Dr. Sunder of NIST is that such would have been deafening at 1/2 a mile, yet we have no reports of survivors and witnesses suffering damaging hearing loss.

    Third, the duration of under-rubble hot-spots need to be accounted for. Sure, the 200,000 gallons of diesel fuel under the towers was available, but there's a contradiction between alleged heat and fresh air sources under the pile and how long it could burn so reportedly hot. The presence of unspent-from-original-purposes chemical-based explosives/incendiaries does not mathematically extend how long improbable diesel-fueled fires burned.

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Friday, February 21, 2014

What 9/11 Anti-truthers Love Most and the Defense of Judy Wood

What 9/11 anti-truthers love most and Defense of Judy Wood

    • Dan Plesse What anti-truthers love most is TEXT, Summaries, word games, they don't like visual recording of the evidence or radio broadcasts of any kind. Why because the real world has zero supporting evidence for them. Judy wood was a giant reminder to look at the evidence. The above video contains zero visuals of 9/11 and that's why Ivan Flores enjoys it so much. The problem with deniers is the same problem lairs have which is they not sure what to deny or lie about. Notice how many "debunkers" never seem to show anything, its all one big wall of TEXT.



    • Ron Morales Dan, stop referring to debunkers as "anti-truthers." That's not an accepted label and a violation of rule #1.

      And you're attacking a straw man. What we love most are actual facts supporting claims. What so many truthers love to do is blindly repeat m
      yths just because they heard other truthers make the claims (such as in their favorite source: Youtube videos made by amateurs who don't know what they're talking about and who make unsubstantiated claims) and didn't bother to spend five minutes of Internet research to fact check the claims.
    • Ron Morales "Why because the real world has zero supporting evidence for them."

      Right, that's why the vast majority of actual experts disagree with you.
    • Dan Plesse The "actual experts" are actually MORE interesting in their own position, job titles, getting more jobs and maintaining themselves then actually anything else. The agreements are out of fear and it just your basic corruption and the lemmings that follow are just following basic herd instincts again out of fear.

      So what do you fear the most, Ron Morales?

    • Ron Morales And what's that picture supposed to prove?

      I and many other debunkers have provided much more than text. You truthers repeat your "free fall" myth and we show you video of the actual collapse of the North Tower that proves that the collapse was not re
      motely near free fall. You truthers claim that the WTC collapses were just like classic controlled demolitions and so we show you video of actual controlled demolitions that include the loud explosions of demo explosives that are not contained in any video of any WTC collapse. You truthers claim that a building cannot collapse straight down without the weakening of lower floors or without explosives so we show you video of Verinage collapses which are straight down rapid collapses without the use of explosives or the weakening of lower floors. You guys claim that there should have been large chunks of planes at the Pentagon or Shanksville so we show you video of a jet pulverizing when crashing at 500 miles per hour into a wall.

      And what do you guys do? You hand wave at 2000 alleged architects and engineers in a blatant appeal to authority fallacy while ignoring the vast majority of experts who disagree with you. You cite papers published in truther blogs by guys who can't get them published in any real science or engineering journals while ignoring the dozens of papers supporting the consensus view that have been published in real science and engineering journals.

      The notion that you guys rely on visible evidence and we just rely on text is laughable bullshit and you know it Dan.
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      • Ron Morales "The "actual experts" are actually MORE interesting in their own position, job titles, getting more jobs and maintaining themselves then actually anything else. The agreements are out of fear"

        Right Dan. That's why the vast majority of relevant experts IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES also support the consensus explanation. That's why truthers can't get a controlled demolition account published in any peer reviewed science and engineering journal IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, including in countries HOSTILE TO THE UNITED STATES. The Russian propaganda ministry (AKA Russia Today) has been pushing 9/11 wackjob conspiracies in order to embarrass the American government but the funny thing is that not a single Russian science journal or science journal from anywhere in the former Soviet Union has published a controlled demolition account of a WTC building.

        Is the entire world afraid of the American government Dan Plesse? Are Russian engineers ans scientists hiding under their beds and afraid to speak the truth about 9/11 because they fear the American government Doug?

        That's really a pathetic rationalization for why the vast majority of the science and engineering community laughs at truther mythology Dan. They do so because truther mythology is contradicted by basic science, logic, and a mountain of evidence that truthers routinely ignore because it contradicts their cherished conspiracy theory that for some reason they emotionally really want to believe.

    • Dan Plesse Are you not still using TEXT? It looks like a giant wall text to me.
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      Dan Plesse Ron Morales fear and corruption knows no borders. The same applies in person A here as person B someplace else. Peer reviews journals are out growth of more corruption.

      James Millette didn't go the peer review route.

      The chip below was excluded from James Millette and should have been the only chip studied.

      How many people in your mythical world bothered globally to study the dust samples? hint it around ZERO. How many people studied the lava rocks at Ground Zero. According the NYPD Museum no one from science community has bothered to look therefore your new God of the "science community" is long dead!

      The mythology is clearly the concept of the "science community" as a whole. They don't speak truth to power.

      " Do you have a problem with reading?" Do you have a problem seeing? and backing up your claims.

      Your TEXT wall is never seems to be backup with anything. I will therefore disregard your TEXT walls until YOU bring forth some kind supporting materials.

      My Witness btw blew your sound theory out of the water. Your reply to that? Nothing. Case closed.



      • Ron Morales "fear and corruption knows no borders. "

        facile nonsense. Why the hell would experts in foreign countries, particularly countries unfriendly to the US, be afraid of the United States. You can't explain why your theories are laughed at ALL OVER THE WORLD.
      • Ivan Flores Harrits paper had no peer review. He only paid $800 to get his "journal" passed and the editor quit when she found out about Benthams shady practices
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        • Dan Plesse Ron Morales I am going to have ask now for supporting materials or your replies will be disregarded. You keep producing TEXT without backup. Assume no more replies from me until YOU CAN backup something UP! As Ivan Flores also has to backup his claims or his TEXT wall will junked as spam.

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