FEMA Fraud Examples
It's true that the frame is leaning currently in the photo, however what caused part of building 7 to impact another building like this????? Avoiding the issues and thus FEMA fraud !
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Chris Newson Admittedly McDougall I do have lesser knowledge in this area, but to me the collapse make perfect sense.
1. Plane hits building, does massive damage and instantly starts massive office fires over several floors.
2. Fires burn unchallenged. The sprinkler system did not operate.
Dan Plesse Brian Clark said two explosions happened and he didn't see any massive fires. Your 1-7 list is junk.
"So Stanley and I went back to the stairs on the 81st floor, and we began down. The first five floors were difficult, because in certain areas dry wall had been blown off the wall and was lying propped up against the railing. We had to move it, shove it to the side. The sprinkler system had turned on and had started to do something, so there was water sloshing down the stairways. "
http://www.pbs.org/.../tech/twin-towers-survivor-story.html
Chris Newson Water was sloshing down the stairways. It was not working perfectly but enough to cool and put out fires and making ALL your statement even more stupid.
Hear one man's extraordinary tale of escape from the South Tower on 9/11.pbs.org
- Chris Newson "Both the NIST calculations and interviews with survivors and firefighters indicated that the aircraft impacts severed the water pipes that carried the water to the sprinkler systems. The sprinklers were not operating on the principal fire floors.
However, there were ample sources of the water in the stairwells. The water pipes ran vertically within the stairwells. Moreover, there would have been copious water from the broken restroom supply lines and from the water tanks that supplied the initial water for the sprinklers. Thus, it is not surprising that evacuating occupants encountered a lot of water.
Even if the automatic sprinklers had been operational, the sprinkler systems—which were installed in accordance with the prevailing fire safety code—were designed to suppress a fire that covered as much as 1,500 square feet on a given floor. This amount of coverage is capable of controlling almost all fires that are likely to occur in an office building. On Sept. 11, 2001, the jet-fuel-ignited fires quickly spread over most of the 40,000 square feet on several floors in each tower. This created infernos that could not have been suppressed even by an undamaged sprinkler system, much less one that had been appreciably degraded." - Dan Plesse Chris Newson Do you think Clark is lying? I believe NIST is lying.
Notice they never name anyone right? Who exactly did they talk to?
Clark most likely never spoke to NIST because NIST only does computer models anyway.
No infernos. Many explosions. Debunked and debunkedRon Paul 9/11 Commission Report a scam
http://youtu.be/1sv95RD6zGs
Ron Paul commission reports were ALL a scam Ron Paul 9/11 Commission Report a Scamyoutube.com
- Austin Thomas likes this.
- Chris Newson I've explained this before, you liar, that the core played no part in arresting the collapse, this is clearly seen by the fact that the core of BOTH towers were stills standing for a while after the rest of the building had collapsed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I47Nv74mTwI
According to the conspiracy theories of the Twin Towers,...youtube.com 
- Dan Plesse Chris Newson What happen to the OTHER 46 core columns and ALL the horizontal giant I-beams at the core?.
- Chris Newson Poor liar, you cannot accept the visual evidence when it's provide right in front of you. The core played a minimal part in arresting the collapsing building. You cannot get around that fact.
- Chris Newson As for your dig at FEMA, their hypothesis wasn't correct anyway. They were investigating the Pancake theory as collapse initiation. NIST discovered that in order for collapse to initiate it was not because the floor trusses has failed, but because they at not failed, thereby remaining attached and pulling in the exterior columns as they buckled and sagged. Again, visual evidence provided to you by Ron before has shown this, but you continue to ignore that too. I bet you never even opened a page of the NIST report, did you?
- Dan Plesse "The core played a minimal part in arresting the collapsing building."
No shit you idiot. Restating the facts, is this a new shill tactic?
What happen to the OTHER 46 core columns and ALL the horizontal giant I-beams at the core? You stupid moron.
Answer the question.
- Chris Newson They either collapsed with the building with the main collapse, or fell soon afterwards. Durr.
- Dan Plesse "They either collapsed with the building with the main collapse"
WHAT causes the core to fall apart? All of it for the South Tower? 97% for the North Tower?
"pulling in the exterior columns as they buckled and sagged."
Are you saying that 4 inches of cement suddenly sagged?
How do you know XYZ sagged? Did someone in the towers say so?
WTF are you talking about? Why do you believe the hollow core theorists?
You sound like a nutter.
Lesie Roberston said the core fell first. What happened in the core? What is your problem?
" remaining attached" Why didn't the connections also get hot and weaken and break away? Why is it weakened everywhere else by heat but not where you need them the most to complete your stupid ideas? What the hell. NUTTER!!
- Chris Newson The more you speak the more of an immobile you appear.
Sagging floor trusses. The core fell apart when the rest of the building fell around it. The core did not fail first, the perimeter columns did. This was established almost 10 years ago. What's taken you so long? What's your excuse?
- Dan Plesse What happen to this issue?
"" remaining attached" Why didn't the connections also get hot and weaken and break away? Why is it weakened everywhere else by heat but not where you need them the most to complete your stupid ideas? What the hell. NUTTER!!"
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"The core fell apart when the rest of the building fell around it. "
The core was holding up the floors with the perimeter columns, if the floors broke away from the core the core would have less to hold up and only need to hold up itself. Are you saying the light floors impacted the core after they broke away somehow? Can you show photographs of the floors doing this activity or causing any damage at all any time during 9/11? The floor seem to all turn to dust and along with there contents (as reported) also turned to dust and would cause ZERO effect on anything. This dusting was enough to cause 16 people who remained in the towers to survive. If 16 people were not effected by the floors, the core was many times stronger then these survivors, this make your theory total junk on the face of it. Start over and do your own work and stop being a shill for the hollow core people.
A few perimeter columns remained on the top, bottom etc. The core remained at the center and at the bottom with the 16 people.
Perimeter columns remain examples after the core is long gone and the reason for the hollow core fraud.
- Dan Plesse Large sections of Perimeter columns are seen blown OUTWARD along with body parts and core columns.
Box columns are still standing Jeffrey Harr. Is this another issue for the consensus?
"I'm researching to find a consensus from the engineering associations." ?
Haha. You'll get right on this just after O.J finishes his research on who killed Nicole Brown Simpson.
" Of course it's important. It is a small remnant and it wasn't hit by the top of the building. It stood for two seconds." Jeffrey Harr- Felix Pps Ipp Carrasquillo Jr., Jeremy Haydon and 4 others like this.
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Ivan Flores Jeremy, it's no good when your nonsense is close to getting compared to Norma or the Ganduu
Jeffrey Harr He is absolutely in the same camp as Norma and Atahan, as are Dan and Austin. We shouldn't be surprised that the people still holding on to this Judy Wood silliness are the bat-shit crazy fringe. I'm actually more perplexed by the 7 WTC Gage followers. Many seem to be otherwise lucid and intelligent folks, which makes their massive gullibility very bizarre.
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- Dan Plesse We know that FEMA, NIST DIDN'T believe the cores existed, what else did they fraud about? Jeffrey Harr?
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